Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

[AlexDavis43]

JFC hey guys my next pack imma take pictures of the inside packaging and the shipping label then blast it all over the place to see if anyone else has the same type of packaging and label...you know cuz if I know someone else's box looked like mine from the same God damn source it would really give me peace of mind for some fucking reason... Thanks gang!

One of my first posts was an OPSEC risk and I got the living fuck fucked out of me. Rightfully so. I will never forget that, and try to politely remind people: never giving any details about anything.

Details aren't bragging points. Interpret that as you choose.

 

[DECLAN]

One of my first posts was an OPSEC risk and I got the living fuck fucked out of me. Rightfully so. I will never forget that, and try to politely remind people: never giving any details about anything.

Details aren't bragging points. Interpret that as you choose.

That is how we learn, get ridiculed and shamed; take it like a man then move on. That is how we survived the forums, we couldn’t even say powder or raws after SSB/ORD, mentioning those would get you banned in some boards.

Nowadays, you can even see people post their shipping details it’s unbelievable. Subtlety and sneakiness aren’t common anymore lol

 

[Qingdao Sigma Chemicals]

I don’t think the resolution is QSC leaving but to resolve it in a manner which one should not pay for the vendor’s mistake. In the future when someone receives a wrong order, he shouldn’t lose his money because he doesn’t want to send out the illegal items to other people for any whatsoever reason. He didn’t order that and it wasn’t his fault it ended up in his front door.

Other vendors will chalk it up as a business expense and fire their stupid shipper or whatever they do in this kind of business.

It's not about money, and regardless of your opinions, I have decided what should be done.

A bailiff has to be sacrificed to set an example, if I let this go unpunished, tomorrow a potential client who was accommodating, and who could cooperate for a mistake, will be less so, and will get me out one of these crappy answers from this selfish mentality to which some here adhere.

Customers come and go, natural selection must be made despite the potential short term loss, to ensure better mid and long term profit.
In the same way a short vision person will think that stopping Alibaba and CC payments will be a source of loss of several customers, sometimes you accept to lose some, for the good of others, not having to deal with scammers afford us better mood of work , less time to spend on disputes, and between the time we shut down Alibaba and now the company's revenues have doubled, who would have guessed that?

Anyone who is not happy with this situation can either leave this thread alone, take their money and never order again, because their money is not welcome, or just mind their own business and STFU, but in my experience most clowns who talk too much, never order.

It won't change anything about my decision which is final. If I decided in the past to do lab tests, it is not to satisfy the vets on the contrary the majority of vets here have been treated like shit by me since day one in Meso for their haughty attitude, thinking they are Meso police, where are MSG? Beware, BBW69? and all these broke idiots who thought their opinion matters telling me how to conduct my business and how to better make money since first days in Meso? they ended up either leaving the forum to UGBB or accepting the system.

I am a businessman, I invest when I see the return on investment, I saw an opportunity in lab tests, and it paid well, that's the only reason.

When I see a decision needs to be made, although it may appear to be politically incorrect, but one that will help preserve the system, like when I threatened those who mention illegal products in their bank reference to keep their money and not ship their orders, it worked, and I didn't have to keep anyones money, because it was loud enough, it made a few pages of debates, mainly by BBW69 +10 years clown that I can no longer afford the time to read the totality of his comments that are too long, sometimes certain decisions help maintain order, make the customer behave better, and ensure the longevity of the source.

 

[Qingdao Sigma Chemicals]

Primo and reta 15mg out of stock us domestic

 

[rask1123]

Well damn Sherlock, you got me, you probably have an extra IQ digit compared to all these meso meatheads who blindly trusting the chinese tranny and never asked the safety questions because they are too lazy to think about their OPSEC, probably their last priority.

Sometimes it's better that you don't know how things work and just take my word for what's it is, as far as we deliver you successfully, with no customs risk with the special lines and just trust a system that worked for the past 3 years for Meso-Rx members. I prefer that you remain suspicious and take all the safety mesures that might include sticking to US domestic or creatine.

No one asked about the details of your operation. We need to know the general idea so everyone can better understand risks and if they want to take them.

The best way for you would be to address reasonable for many members concern regarding personal data on packages, especially from someone who never insulted you.
But you just throw a bunch of BS and insults as usual treating customers like shit for asking reasonable questions.

You could do better.

 

[rask1123]

It's not about money, and regardless of your opinions, I have decided what should be done.

A bailiff has to be sacrificed to set an example, if I let this go unpunished, tomorrow a potential client who was accommodating, and who could cooperate for a mistake, will be less so, and will get me out one of these crappy answers from this selfish mentality to which some here adhere.

Customers come and go, natural selection must be made despite the potential short term loss, to ensure better mid and long term profit.
In the same way a short vision person will think that stopping Alibaba and CC payments will be a source of loss of several customers, sometimes you accept to lose some, for the good of others, not having to deal with scammers afford us better mood of work , less time to spend on disputes, and between the time we shut down Alibaba and now the company's revenues have doubled, who would have guessed that?

Anyone who is not happy with this situation can either leave this thread alone, take their money and never order again, because their money is not welcome, or just mind their own business and STFU, but in my experience most clowns who talk too much, never order.

It won't change anything about my decision which is final. If I decided in the past to do lab tests, it is not to satisfy the vets on the contrary the majority of vets here have been treated like shit by me since day one in Meso for their haughty attitude, thinking they are Meso police, where are MSG? Beware, BBW69? and all these broke idiots who thought their opinion matters telling me how to conduct my business and how to better make money since first days in Meso? they ended up either leaving the forum to UGBB or accepting the system.

I am a businessman, I invest when I see the return on investment, I saw an opportunity in lab tests, and it paid well, that's the only reason.

When I see a decision needs to be made, although it may appear to be politically incorrect, but one that will help preserve the system, like when I threatened those who mention illegal products in their bank reference to keep their money and not ship their orders, it worked, and I didn't have to keep anyones money, because it was loud enough, it made a few pages of debates, mainly by BBW69 +10 years clown that I can no longer afford the time to read the totality of his comments that are too long, sometimes certain decisions help maintain order, make the customer behave better, and ensure the longevity of the source.

No one should pay or risk sending illegal products due to your mistake. End of story.

 

[CFH016]

That’s not something you should post publically

While I get the caution, there's likely thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of packages of essential oils and beauty supplies in circulation every day. I guarantee you that his post didn't cause an agent to warn the entire shipping industry to be on the lookout for essential oils. I just had 2 packs seized and they told me exactly what was in them. A sticker is not going to magically make packs pass customs tests.

 

[RekTest]

It's not about money, and regardless of your opinions, I have decided what should be done.

A bailiff has to be sacrificed to set an example, if I let this go unpunished, tomorrow a potential client who was accommodating, and who could cooperate for a mistake, will be less so, and will get me out one of these crappy answers from this selfish mentality to which some here adhere.

So can you provide the receipts of you asking the customers if they want their info provided to the mess ups? If you can, thats crazy people are agreeing and allowing that… if you cant, thats a huge red flag…

 

[Qingdao Sigma Chemicals]

No one should pay or risk sending illegal products due to your mistake. End of story.

If you can't understand that BPC157 and TB500 are not illegal, then yes, end of the story.

 

[Qingdao Sigma Chemicals]

So can you provide the receipts of you asking the customers if they want their info provided to the mess ups? If you can, thats crazy people are agreeing and allowing that… if you cant, thats a huge red flag…

Of course, if there have been a mistake, which is very rare, we explain to the customer that his pack need to be forwarded by someone else who received his parcel by mistake, and if his info can be shared ? if he agrees, and he will prefer that option of 3-4 domestic days delivery than a reship from china that will take 3 weeks, we share the info. If he doesn't we reship from China and the one who received the pack by mistake we provide him an info of our logistics agent where he can send what doesn't belong to him.

 

[CFH016]

JFC hey guys my next pack imma take pictures of the inside packaging and the shipping label then blast it all over the place to see if anyone else has the same type of packaging and label...you know cuz if I know someone else's box looked like mine from the same God damn source it would really give me peace of mind for some fucking reason... Thanks gang!

You know how many small brown boxes I get in the mail when I order something? Who fucking cares what it looks like, they're not fucking hidden in bulk box of peanut butter, or coming in electronics. There's literally pictures all over the internet by these Chinese sources of their shitty little white boxes they put their vials in. Do you really think this was the "aha!" Moment for customs??

 

[RekTest]

Of course, if there have been a mistake, which is very rare, we explain to the customer that his pack need to be forwarded by someone else who received his parcel by mistake, and if his info can be shared ? if he agrees, and he will prefer that option of 3-4 domestic days delivery than a reship from china that will take 3 weeks, we share the info. If he doesn't we reship from China and the one who received the pack by mistake we provide him an info of our logistics agent where he can send what doesn't belong to him.

Ok.. so no receipts? Convos to verify what you are saying is true and you arent just handing out customer info?

 

[DECLAN]

It's not about money, and regardless of your opinions, I have decided what should be done.

A bailiff has to be sacrificed to set an example, if I let this go unpunished, tomorrow a potential client who was accommodating, and who could cooperate for a mistake, will be less so, and will get me out one of these crappy answers from this selfish mentality to which some here adhere.

Customers come and go, natural selection must be made despite the potential short term loss, to ensure better mid and long term profit.
In the same way a short vision person will think that stopping Alibaba and CC payments will be a source of loss of several customers, sometimes you accept to lose some, for the good of others, not having to deal with scammers afford us better mood of work , less time to spend on disputes, and between the time we shut down Alibaba and now the company's revenues have doubled, who would have guessed that?

Anyone who is not happy with this situation can either leave this thread alone, take their money and never order again, because their money is not welcome, or just mind their own business and STFU, but in my experience most clowns who talk too much, never order.

It won't change anything about my decision which is final. If I decided in the past to do lab tests, it is not to satisfy the vets on the contrary the majority of vets here have been treated like shit by me since day one in Meso for their haughty attitude, thinking they are Meso police, where are MSG? Beware, BBW69? and all these broke idiots who thought their opinion matters telling me how to conduct my business and how to better make money since first days in Meso? they ended up either leaving the forum to UGBB or accepting the system.

I am a businessman, I invest when I see the return on investment, I saw an opportunity in lab tests, and it paid well, that's the only reason.

When I see a decision needs to be made, although it may appear to be politically incorrect, but one that will help preserve the system, like when I threatened those who mention illegal products in their bank reference to keep their money and not ship their orders, it worked, and I didn't have to keep anyones money, because it was loud enough, it made a few pages of debates, mainly by BBW69 +10 years clown that I can no longer afford the time to read the totality of his comments that are too long, sometimes certain decisions help maintain order, make the customer behave better, and ensure the longevity of the source.

It goes both ways, you can say what you want and do what you will its your business and principle; however, you can’t order us around here to follow what you say in this page. This is not a source board your word is not final no matter what your position is. Go ahead and ban the guy who kept your product, it doesn’t matter. Or tell anyone who doesn’t bow down to you to go fuck themselves, that doesn’t matter too.

However, if you make a mistake by shipping a product to a different address do not expect the recipient to follow your orders, fire your incompetent shipper. If you are able to convince them to send it back then good but do not punish your customer for your employees incompetence, that is not a good look.

I do not care what you think about your bashers, nor do I care about where they are now, I am merely stating that your a businessman and if you leave there are plenty of vendors to take your place, do not for a second think you are special.

So yeah, do a better job at being a business man.

 

[Mongo966]

It's not about money, and regardless of your opinions, I have decided what should be done.

A bailiff has to be sacrificed to set an example, if I let this go unpunished, tomorrow a potential client who was accommodating, and who could cooperate for a mistake, will be less so, and will get me out one of these crappy answers from this selfish mentality to which some here adhere.

Customers come and go, natural selection must be made despite the potential short term loss, to ensure better mid and long term profit.
In the same way a short vision person will think that stopping Alibaba and CC payments will be a source of loss of several customers, sometimes you accept to lose some, for the good of others, not having to deal with scammers afford us better mood of work , less time to spend on disputes, and between the time we shut down Alibaba and now the company's revenues have doubled, who would have guessed that?

Anyone who is not happy with this situation can either leave this thread alone, take their money and never order again, because their money is not welcome, or just mind their own business and STFU, but in my experience most clowns who talk too much, never order.

It won't change anything about my decision which is final. If I decided in the past to do lab tests, it is not to satisfy the vets on the contrary the majority of vets here have been treated like shit by me since day one in Meso for their haughty attitude, thinking they are Meso police, where are MSG? Beware, BBW69? and all these broke idiots who thought their opinion matters telling me how to conduct my business and how to better make money since first days in Meso? they ended up either leaving the forum to UGBB or accepting the system.

I am a businessman, I invest when I see the return on investment, I saw an opportunity in lab tests, and it paid well, that's the only reason.

When I see a decision needs to be made, although it may appear to be politically incorrect, but one that will help preserve the system, like when I threatened those who mention illegal products in their bank reference to keep their money and not ship their orders, it worked, and I didn't have to keep anyones money, because it was loud enough, it made a few pages of debates, mainly by BBW69 +10 years clown that I can no longer afford the time to read the totality of his comments that are too long, sometimes certain decisions help maintain order, make the customer behave better, and ensure the longevity of the source.

Your honesty is refreshing.
For the sake of us being friends, can you leave the part about me being disposable out of your explanations from now on?
I'm not a business man but I'm pretty sure that "don't treat your customers like a bunch of porch monkeys" is business 101. Just keeping both mid and long term profits in mind, of course.

 

[Qingdao Sigma Chemicals]

Ok.. so no receipts? Convos to verify what you are saying is true and you arent just handing out customer info?

With all due respects I have nothing to prove to you, nor the time to extract you conversations where I have to hide a ton of lines of emails that contains customer information and orders info to reassure you, in fact I don't care one bit that you are reassured and you can go elsewhere if you don't have it, I don't have 2500 pages on Meso Rx without the reputation of being reassuring, I'm not in my first week here where I have to prove myself.

 

[Qingdao Sigma Chemicals]

It goes both ways, you can say what you want and do what you will its your business and principle; however, you can’t order us around here to follow what you say in this page. This is not a source board your word is not final no matter what your position is. Go ahead and ban the guy who kept your product, it doesn’t matter. Or tell anyone who doesn’t bow down to you to go fuck themselves, that doesn’t matter too.

However, if you make a mistake by shipping a product to a different address do not expect the recipient to follow your orders, fire your incompetent shipper. If you are able to convince them to send it back then good but do not punish your customer for your employees incompetence, that is not a good look.

I do not care what you think about your bashers, nor do I care about where they are now, I am merely stating that your a businessman and if you leave there are plenty of vendors to take your place, do not for a second think you are special.

So yeah, do a better job at being a business man.

We can agree to disagree, not the first subject I guess.

Cheers

 

[Qingdao Sigma Chemicals]

Your honesty is refreshing.
For the sake of us being friends, can you leave the part about me being disposable out of your explanations from now on?
I'm not a business man but I'm pretty sure that "don't treat your customers like a bunch of porch monkeys" is business 101. Just keeping both mid and long term profits in mind, of course.

I am very dedicated to my work and to the satisfaction of my customers, even very accommodating and this is what made me keep some until their order number 200 and more.
But like any business, some are complicated, others are Karens, and a minority are real POS, so everyone gets the treatment they deserve, I hired assistants who have better patience than me to deal with customers anger, but still I have to step up on frequent basis to stop the lack of respect to those young ladies that some guys allow themselves to, if you can't work in the right atmosphere, having to accept the humiliation, what good is money for?
I'm grateful for Meso Rx, and fortunately the majority of my customers are very friendly, patient, they know what to expect, they know it's a risky business for both sellers and buyers, and we work together to minimize the risks and losses on both sides, and that's what made our thread the most watched in Meso, and that's what motivates us to give more and more, I saw the sources here on Meso following the advice of the vets, they ended up with no business, it's like listening to the advice of feminists, you end up divorced without children with 2- 3 pets at 60.

 

[RekTest]

With all due respects I have nothing to prove to you, nor the time to extract you conversations where I have to hide a ton of lines of emails that contains customer information and orders info to reassure you, in fact I don't care one bit that you are reassured and you can go elsewhere if you don't have it, I don't have 2500 pages on Meso Rx without the reputation of being reassuring, I'm not in my first week here where I have to prove myself.

With all due respect , I dont think you realize how bad this looks for you.. the chance to save your name was providing the convos.

Your replies are something else… all with an attitude.

 

[Qingdao Sigma Chemicals]

With all due respect , I dont think you realize how bad this looks for you.. the chance to save your name was providing the convos.

Your replies are something else… all with an attitude.

I am aware of it, I know sometimes you have to look bad, and take difficult decisions, to preserve the system, for the good of the others, and that's what goverments do, for national security. You will understand it maybe one day, deep in a personal business that requires frequent human interractions with a ton of different profiles.

 

[TomGlass]

You know how many small brown boxes I get in the mail when I order something? Who fucking cares what it looks like, they're not fucking hidden in bulk box of peanut butter, or coming in electronics. There's literally pictures all over the internet by these Chinese sources of their shitty little white boxes they put their vials in. Do you really think this was the "aha!" Moment for customs??

It's bad practice and unnecessary. Talking about those details serves no purpose for you or anyone else. Volunteering details for no reason at all other than to create conversation is inherently bad. It only helps paint a bigger picture no matter how worthless you think those details are. If it can only be used against us, the consumer, then why even talk about it? It's dumb and careless all the way around.

Also thank God it doesn't come in peanut butter. I have a serious problem with pb and had to stop buying it. That's my kryptonite, Before I know it I'll have 3 spoons and 4 butter knifes with pb residue in my sink and I start finding it on my light switches and cabinet knobs. It's a slippery slope.