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[Spaceman Spiff]

Why play with spoons when suspension is more accurate and super easy?

because it is still a snow globe effect. need to shake it violently prior to use. there is a reason jano asks for people to send in the whole suspension bottle for testing.

 

[RiceNKimchi]

because it is still a snow globe effect. need to shake it violently prior to use. there is a reason jano asks for people to send in the whole suspension bottle for testing.

Curious, so you would say spoons are a better gauge?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Curious, so you would say spoons are a better gauge?

This is the order of safety and most realistic in my opinion. To start off, I think female dosing should be left to experienced brewers that know what they are doing.

1. Leave it to a source/brewer that tests

2. If think liquid/spoons may be the next one, but ensuring that it is accurate.

for example, if each spoon is 25mg. put 4 scoops on the scale to make sure it equivalent to 100mg. or how far it can be off.

If you do liquid suspension, keep the concentration low and shake violently prior to drawing.

3. I think geometric dilution is the safest way if someone knows how to do it .

 

[SYNTAX_ERA]

It’s quite simple, no quality control means everything gets past quality control

Recipe for infection. 5 micron filter needles might be worth the cost if this is an on-going problem.

 

[SYNTAX_ERA]

I see that some of the members in this thread are not about sharing useful information or about harm reduction.
I was just sharing mine findings with test cyp. So if somebody alse has the same vials can check theirs.

One option i found online.

 

[RiceNKimchi]

This is the order of safety and most realistic in my opinion. To start off, I think female dosing should be left to experienced brewers that know what they are doing.

1. Leave it to a source/brewer that tests

2. If think liquid/spoons may be the next one, but ensuring that it is accurate.

for example, if each spoon is 25mg. put 4 scoops on the scale to make sure it equivalent to 100mg. or how far it can be off.

If you do liquid suspension, keep the concentration low and shake violently prior to drawing.

3. I think geometric dilution is the safest way if someone knows how to do it .

I respect some of what you say, so it was just asking your opinion. I would agree geometric dilution is probably the best way for raw materials not in suspension. But if you shake well ofc, suspension is the best noob way imo. It's simple, you can weight out 120 ml with 10 grams, which is a no brainer since scales will gauge it better, then gauge down into dose per ml

 

[CryAboutIt]

I know a bunch of people have been asking for a while now but we never get a response from Tracy. Are you restocking USA domestic hcg? Cuz their is a decent demand for it

Just order international from them. I’ve waited months for domestic. $35 extra for shipping but the price for a kit makes that negligible. I’m sure Tracy knows that too. If you keep waiting for him to restock domestic you’ll be waiting a long time just my two cents.

 

[CryAboutIt]

Last night and today

Bro, be patient. Lol. Last night? Little impatient no?

 

[LottaLouie]

Bro, be patient. Lol. Last night? Little impatient no?

 

[Pinnacle Elements]

Recipe for infection. 5 micron filter needles might be worth the cost if this is an on-going problem.

Not necessary & that small may filter the active ingredient too.

Just improper sterilization & sloppy filtering.

 

[Pinnacle Elements]

This is the order of safety and most realistic in my opinion. To start off, I think female dosing should be left to experienced brewers that know what they are doing.

1. Leave it to a source/brewer that tests

2. If think liquid/spoons may be the next one, but ensuring that it is accurate.

for example, if each spoon is 25mg. put 4 scoops on the scale to make sure it equivalent to 100mg. or how far it can be off.

If you do liquid suspension, keep the concentration low and shake violently prior to drawing.

3. I think geometric dilution is the safest way if someone knows how to do it .

Geometric dilution? What is that

Nvm I looked it up. Just mixing the powders basically. It would have to be mixed very well for accuracy

 

[RiceNKimchi]

Geometric dilution? What is that

Nvm I looked it up. Just mixing the powders basically. It would have to be mixed very well for accuracy

Brother not a good look. It is the best way to accurately mix raw powders without high dollar machines. Very simplic but very accurate

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Geometric dilution? What is that

Nvm I looked it up. Just mixing the powders basically. It would have to be mixed very well for accuracy

It's simple but it is important for making capsules and harm reduction. It's alot more than just putting crap in a shaker cup


You have these amateur capsule makers who do that and overdose underdose gear.

If capsules were meant to be 50 and there is a 10mg capsule. There may be a 90mg capsule out there

 

[Pinnacle Elements]

Brother not a good look. It is the best way to accurately mix raw powders without high dollar machines. Very simplic but very accurate

Like I said, I personally just make oral suspensions. I think it’s a more efficient and accurate method.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Like I said, I personally just make oral suspensions. I think it’s a more efficient and accurate method.

It's is most certainly not more accurate, atleast for the consumer.
Definitely more convenient

 

[SYNTAX_ERA]

Not necessary & that small may filter the active ingredient too.

Just improper sterilization & sloppy filtering.

If it filtered active ingredient it wouldn't be used in practice.

 

[Pinnacle Elements]

It's is most certainly not more accurate, atleast for the consumer.
Definitely more convenient

It’s pretty accurate, pharmacies offer suspensions in the same vehicles.

 

[Pinnacle Elements]

If it filtered active ingredient it wouldn't be used in practice.

Is it used for testosterone solutions? Never heard anyone use that small.

Could be used for other applications,

 

[AlexDavis43]

Yea. I guess I still like Xkawn's guide. so many informative videos.

either learn to do it or dont fuck with it. too many people are idiots with spoons and reselling the capsules.

Especially they think they can measure out 5-10mg effectively... even breathing on the scale can play a role with the weight.

Why play with spoons when suspension is more accurate and super easy?

I say super easy, basic math alludes many

Yes agree suspension can likely be more accurate than capsule filling, although neither of those are on the level of a proper tablet press. And we're talking orders of magnitude in price difference and convenience.

My vote for 99% of the people here is suspensions.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

It’s pretty accurate, pharmacies offer suspensions in the same vehicles.

I do agree with you, for homebrewers, suspension really has no choice btw. I am just nitpicking shit for the sake of discussion

but what is the concentration? It is also a pharmacy with set guidelines for compounding suspension per drug. not some guy with some children's cough syrup and some powder they bought off the internet.


I am also basing this off the reason Jano asks for the full bottle to tests rather than 1ml from the suspension. the dosing off of 1ml sent in is extremely off.

please see below.

I am not sure if you have ever seen Jano's results on 1ml suspension sample vs whole bottle. It is very different.

He had a liquid sample that was maybe 50% more than the average contents of the whole bottle. The consumer shook it up

Theoretically I could, but I won't, because I would risk providing unrepresentative result.

Suspensions require special instructions on the customer side - as suspensions are not homogenous by default, the chance that my customers would take sample that is not representative (part of the liquid with higher or lower amount of suspended particles than the true average value) is quite high in my experience.

Therefore, for suspensions I require either whole container (amp. or vial) to be sent, or small aliquot (part) be taken under specified conditions.