Turkeybuilder
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Im torn between that and doing .5mg EOD. I guess keeeping dose same and increasing freq. is the safer route
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Safer is better.
I think it would make more sense to try .25 daily to reach more stable levels vs .5 every other day.
AlteredAttitude
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Its unfortunate youre having to deal with this on vacation. Is libido down because of it? Hows things since increasing frequency now?
Turkeybuilder
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Honestly after starting adex i’m asymptomatic. Now its just a number i’d like to get under control but I feel completely normal.
I just took another dose today to start my eod dosing of 0.25
Turkeybuilder
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Today marks the end of week 12 and the start of week 13
Week 1 average weight: 167.7lb (Previous week 165.3)
Week 2 average weight: 168.4lb (+0.7lb)
Week 3 average weight: 169.2lb (+0.8lb)
Week 4 average weight: 170.4lb (+1.2lb)
Week 5 average weight: 173.8lb (+3.4lb)
Week 6 average weight: 173.8lb (+0lb)
Week 7 average weight: 174.4lb (+0.6lb)
Week 8 average weight: 174.9lb (+0.5lb)
Week 9 average weight: 180.3lb (+5.4lb)
Week 10 average weight: 180.3lb (+0lb)
Week 11 average weight: on vacation
Week 12 average weight: 185.8lb (+5.5lb)
Not too worried about my weekly average for this last week, I was still recovering from my water retention episode post vacation. Since i’ve been back my weight went from 189>187>186>183> and this morning 182.2. Been drinking 4-6L of water daily and getting a lot of walking in. Swelling has come down a ton and I hope it continues to come down. I’m still way heavier than I “should” be based on my caloric intake. Also I don’t know if i’m going to experience any rebound water retention since I just lost a shit ton of excess water weight in a few days.
Calories have been 3000 minimum daily, protein intake 220+, carbs 300+. Strength in the gym is fun as fuck and still all my numbers are going up.
Taking daily nolvadex for what felt like sore nipples, still on my eod 0.25mg arimidex. Will do repeat labs next week and post physique update photos. I think a lot of my gains are going to my shoulders / back thats really the only muscles I can visibly tell on the mirror have grown. But strength in all body parts have gone up.
8 more weeks left on this bulk. Hoping to end strong. I have 3 weeks left of anavar in the bottle so i’m just going to use up the rest of it. That would put me at 7 weeks of anavar. Then the remaining 4 weeks of the cycle will be the test only as planned
Im back to looking like im 14-15% BF. So if we believe the scale number and dont account for water weight it looks like ive put on about 20lb of good weight so far this cycle lol
Week 1 average weight: 167.7lb (Previous week 165.3)
Week 2 average weight: 168.4lb (+0.7lb)
Week 3 average weight: 169.2lb (+0.8lb)
Week 4 average weight: 170.4lb (+1.2lb)
Week 5 average weight: 173.8lb (+3.4lb)
Week 6 average weight: 173.8lb (+0lb)
Week 7 average weight: 174.4lb (+0.6lb)
Week 8 average weight: 174.9lb (+0.5lb)
Week 9 average weight: 180.3lb (+5.4lb)
Week 10 average weight: 180.3lb (+0lb)
Week 11 average weight: on vacation
Week 12 average weight: 185.8lb (+5.5lb)
Not too worried about my weekly average for this last week, I was still recovering from my water retention episode post vacation. Since i’ve been back my weight went from 189>187>186>183> and this morning 182.2. Been drinking 4-6L of water daily and getting a lot of walking in. Swelling has come down a ton and I hope it continues to come down. I’m still way heavier than I “should” be based on my caloric intake. Also I don’t know if i’m going to experience any rebound water retention since I just lost a shit ton of excess water weight in a few days.
Calories have been 3000 minimum daily, protein intake 220+, carbs 300+. Strength in the gym is fun as fuck and still all my numbers are going up.
Taking daily nolvadex for what felt like sore nipples, still on my eod 0.25mg arimidex. Will do repeat labs next week and post physique update photos. I think a lot of my gains are going to my shoulders / back thats really the only muscles I can visibly tell on the mirror have grown. But strength in all body parts have gone up.
8 more weeks left on this bulk. Hoping to end strong. I have 3 weeks left of anavar in the bottle so i’m just going to use up the rest of it. That would put me at 7 weeks of anavar. Then the remaining 4 weeks of the cycle will be the test only as planned
Im back to looking like im 14-15% BF. So if we believe the scale number and dont account for water weight it looks like ive put on about 20lb of good weight so far this cycle lol
AlteredAttitude
New Member
Thats absolutely fantastic. Good work staying consistent. Making me excited for my blast that is pretty much identical.
Turkeybuilder
Member
Thank you. Super happy with the results so far and hoping to put on some more mass and strength by the end of the bulk. I’ll be at maintenance as I drop my test down to 200 for a few weeks then start a slow cut
Turkeybuilder
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Turkeybuilder
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Side note my lower back and shoulders are becoming riddled with small acne. Is there anything I can do to help with that in the meantime until I get off cycle or do I gotta thug it out for 8 more weeks
AlteredAttitude
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Saw mentioned anti bacterial body scrubb/soap. I bought one of those shower scrub arm things in preparation.
Turkeybuilder
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Got some 1ml syringes with leur lock tips and attatched a 24g needle to draw up my L carnitine today and wow what a pleasure ive been missing out on, getting a full 1ml syringe filled up in 10 seconds as opposed to the 3 minutes it took using my old 27g needle I would use to draw up + pin lol
crispybacon!
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Turkeybuilder
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Seems like my back is clearing up on its own, i think the high e2 just fucked me up so bad lol
hellerhiwater
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Turkeybuilder
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i look bigger so the ween looks smaller
I’m kinda over the sub-q lumps lol the only reason I did sub-q is because I thought i’d be able to do a cycle and avoid AI use / high E2 but clearly that wasn’t the case so once i’m done with my cycle i’ll be transitioning into 200mg/wk IM test cyp as a maintenance until my next cycle
hellerhiwater
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rest in peeni look bigger so the ween looks smaller
I’m kinda over the sub-q lumps lol the only reason I did sub-q is because I thought i’d be able to do a cycle and avoid AI use / high E2 but clearly that wasn’t the case so once i’m done with my cycle i’ll be transitioning into 200mg/wk IM test cyp as a maintenance until my next cycle
yeah dude the subq lumps with oil are so insane. at least for me. they stay for at least a week and look terrible, even on my fat ass.
thanks for the update, best of luck!
Turkeybuilder
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Today marks the end of week 13 and the start of week 14
Week 1 average weight: 167.7lb (Previous week 165.3)
Week 2 average weight: 168.4lb (+0.7lb)
Week 3 average weight: 169.2lb (+0.8lb)
Week 4 average weight: 170.4lb (+1.2lb)
Week 5 average weight: 173.8lb (+3.4lb)
Week 6 average weight: 173.8lb (+0lb)
Week 7 average weight: 174.4lb (+0.6lb)
Week 8 average weight: 174.9lb (+0.5lb)
Week 9 average weight: 180.3lb (+5.4lb)
Week 10 average weight: 180.3lb (+0lb)
Week 11 average weight: on vacation
Week 12 average weight: 185.8lb (+5.5lb)
Week 13 average weight: 182.6 (-3.2lb)
Looks like I finally shed off all of the vacation water weight. My weekly average is a little misleading since I was a lot heavier at the start of the week, but my morning weight this morning was 179.8. Hoping to have a weekly avg of 180-181 for this next week. Weight has still been increasing on lifts and I feel good. I'll be drawing labs this week a full panel most likely so we can see how badly the anavar has fucked me up.
I am considering calling the bulk quits at the end of week 16 and then using weeks 17-20 as a "maintenance" to bridge myself into my cut. Is something like that smart to do? I think I read somewhere if you extend your cycle from 16 to 20 weeks you retain more of your gains? I plan on transitioning to 200mg IM test cyp with daily injections at the end of week 20.
I guess in my head (unless you guys have a better idea) is:
Continue to bulk until the end of week 16
Maintenance calories (still on 525mg test/wk) from weeks 17-20
Drop test to 200mg/wk at the end of week 20 and begin a 500 calorie deficit cut
Week 1 average weight: 167.7lb (Previous week 165.3)
Week 2 average weight: 168.4lb (+0.7lb)
Week 3 average weight: 169.2lb (+0.8lb)
Week 4 average weight: 170.4lb (+1.2lb)
Week 5 average weight: 173.8lb (+3.4lb)
Week 6 average weight: 173.8lb (+0lb)
Week 7 average weight: 174.4lb (+0.6lb)
Week 8 average weight: 174.9lb (+0.5lb)
Week 9 average weight: 180.3lb (+5.4lb)
Week 10 average weight: 180.3lb (+0lb)
Week 11 average weight: on vacation
Week 12 average weight: 185.8lb (+5.5lb)
Week 13 average weight: 182.6 (-3.2lb)
Looks like I finally shed off all of the vacation water weight. My weekly average is a little misleading since I was a lot heavier at the start of the week, but my morning weight this morning was 179.8. Hoping to have a weekly avg of 180-181 for this next week. Weight has still been increasing on lifts and I feel good. I'll be drawing labs this week a full panel most likely so we can see how badly the anavar has fucked me up.
I am considering calling the bulk quits at the end of week 16 and then using weeks 17-20 as a "maintenance" to bridge myself into my cut. Is something like that smart to do? I think I read somewhere if you extend your cycle from 16 to 20 weeks you retain more of your gains? I plan on transitioning to 200mg IM test cyp with daily injections at the end of week 20.
I guess in my head (unless you guys have a better idea) is:
Continue to bulk until the end of week 16
Maintenance calories (still on 525mg test/wk) from weeks 17-20
Drop test to 200mg/wk at the end of week 20 and begin a 500 calorie deficit cut
Turkeybuilder
Member
Today marks the end of week 14 and the start of week 15
Week 1 average weight: 167.7lb (Previous week 165.3)
Week 2 average weight: 168.4lb (+0.7lb)
Week 3 average weight: 169.2lb (+0.8lb)
Week 4 average weight: 170.4lb (+1.2lb)
Week 5 average weight: 173.8lb (+3.4lb)
Week 6 average weight: 173.8lb (+0lb)
Week 7 average weight: 174.4lb (+0.6lb)
Week 8 average weight: 174.9lb (+0.5lb)
Week 9 average weight: 180.3lb (+5.4lb)
Week 10 average weight: 180.3lb (+0lb)
Week 11 average weight: on vacation
Week 12 average weight: 185.8lb (+5.5lb)
Week 13 average weight: 182.6 (-3.2lb)
Week 14 average weight: 182 (-0.6lb)
I decided i’m going to be ending my bulk at week 16 and doing a maintenance period for weeks 16-18 and then transition into a very slow cut starting week 19. I’ll stay on the 525mg/wk of test until the end of week 20 and then go to 200mg/wk for my cut. I plan on cutting until 8-10% body fat
Week 1 average weight: 167.7lb (Previous week 165.3)
Week 2 average weight: 168.4lb (+0.7lb)
Week 3 average weight: 169.2lb (+0.8lb)
Week 4 average weight: 170.4lb (+1.2lb)
Week 5 average weight: 173.8lb (+3.4lb)
Week 6 average weight: 173.8lb (+0lb)
Week 7 average weight: 174.4lb (+0.6lb)
Week 8 average weight: 174.9lb (+0.5lb)
Week 9 average weight: 180.3lb (+5.4lb)
Week 10 average weight: 180.3lb (+0lb)
Week 11 average weight: on vacation
Week 12 average weight: 185.8lb (+5.5lb)
Week 13 average weight: 182.6 (-3.2lb)
Week 14 average weight: 182 (-0.6lb)
I decided i’m going to be ending my bulk at week 16 and doing a maintenance period for weeks 16-18 and then transition into a very slow cut starting week 19. I’ll stay on the 525mg/wk of test until the end of week 20 and then go to 200mg/wk for my cut. I plan on cutting until 8-10% body fat
