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PSMF mid blast to “clean up”?
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myosin
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To me this reads 2IU total speed across the day split in dosages of every 3-4 hours, which I thought was a small dose, which is why I asked. thanks for clarifying. 2IU every 3-4 hours then.
Say what you want, but RFL by Lyle MacDonald (aka PSMF) is hands down one of the best cutting diets if you need to drop fat fast and clean. I’ve run it plenty of times back in the day without any GLP-1. Brutal, but works like clockwork. Add PEDs into the mix and it hits even harder.
Just give it a shot and you’ll see for yourself. Grab his latest edition on Amazon, he even covers PSMF + GLP-1 in there, and there’s a long breakdown on YouTube too. You won’t really get it until you try it, but the results won’t disappoint.
Oh, and he’s also got “Extreme RFL”, but that one’s for people with a few screws loose.
Not sure if it makes sense to throw it in during a mid-bulking phase, but hey, if you just came back from vacation and packed on some extra fluff, don’t stress it. Get back on your usual calories and keep gaining. But if the itch is there, then definitely give RFL a try at least once.
View: https://youtu.be/BXLVj1vs3KU?si=FP0TTSpPrEZ9xnNj
Just give it a shot and you’ll see for yourself. Grab his latest edition on Amazon, he even covers PSMF + GLP-1 in there, and there’s a long breakdown on YouTube too. You won’t really get it until you try it, but the results won’t disappoint.
Oh, and he’s also got “Extreme RFL”, but that one’s for people with a few screws loose.
Not sure if it makes sense to throw it in during a mid-bulking phase, but hey, if you just came back from vacation and packed on some extra fluff, don’t stress it. Get back on your usual calories and keep gaining. But if the itch is there, then definitely give RFL a try at least once.
View: https://youtu.be/BXLVj1vs3KU?si=FP0TTSpPrEZ9xnNj
myosin
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I had watched that entire 4 hour video before, from beginning to finish. I think I will give it a shot.
Can I ask how you structured it yourself, Did you do refeed/high carb days to replenish glycogen? If so, how long would you PSMF for, and then how long refeed/carb up? IIRC he recommended maintenance days for non athletes but said there would be benefits from refeeds to keep adequate training in the gym.
Also what was your PED regime when doing it?
And if you incorporated any cardio? I think he said either do PSMF or increase cals with cardio, but I don't get an awful amount of steps either during the day, so maybe spending some time doing incline walk would be beneficial.
Start with calories and category, that’s the base. Use the calculator from Lyle, it’s super simple and tells you exactly where you stand.
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If you land in Category 1, usually max is 12 days. Some people stretch it to 2 weeks, but I always stopped at 12 and then moved into maintenance. No free meals during the run. At the end you definitely need a carb load, 2-3 days. Personally, I always did it, and baked potatoes were my go-to carb source.
PEDs I’ve tried both ways. Natty is brutal, with gear it gets more interesting and the results come faster, but don’t think it becomes “easy mode” either. My main setup was Test E/C plus EQ, and sometimes Mast E on top.
Cardio I didn’t really do. Lyle doesn’t recommend it anyway. If you really want to add something, a few low-intensity sessions per week won’t hurt. I just focused on daily steps, usually 10-15k, outside or on a walking pad at home.
That’s basically it. Simple, harsh, but it works like clockwork. Try it once and you’ll get why people respect and fear this diet at the same time.
Jesus, recommends 400g of protein daily for me LOL
eery
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i second this
white-boyka
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wouldn’t doing this as a natty nuke your test levels?
eery
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not for 3-5 weeks
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