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[Photon]

Theres only 2 products you have that have that much solvents. The SUS500(was it? Don't recall) and the TRE400. Neither of which we have seen any GCMS on.

The TRE400 also did not match whatever you sent Jano for testing. 10% variance. So whatever the hell was in that vial or where it came from, nobody really knows.

 

[oldage]

He used to have Test Cyp 400. Solvent level in that comparable?

 

[Photon]

He used to have Test Cyp 400. Solvent level in that comparable?

not high
probably about the same as other LC gear
25%?

 

[crispybacon!]

It’s honestly surprising that none of the people still trying to take shots at us even bothered to correct you. The one that came in at 200 was the Test U from months back. The fact that the compound itself was unknown just shows how fast misinformation spreads.

The Cyp sample @crispybacon! submitted that tested at 220 was from the socalled mystery batch, the same one @SwolieGuacamole correctly called out at the time. We stopped using that raw source months ago. Meanwhile, every test that comes back on point gets ignored, and people keep recycling the same old results that we’ve already addressed.

What’s also being ignored is that customer bloodwork showing our products are performing exactly as expected, most cases even better.

But anyways, we’ve since moved to volumetric flasks and fully standardized our batching process. The expectation is that the previous complaints will be resolved. But I’m sure something else will become the next talking point soon lol.

It’s not recycling, it’s reminding. And you have a track record of dishonesty, so it would be foolish for anyone to take you at your word that you’re now using volumetric flasks and true homogeneous batches until it’s proven through repeated 3rd party testing.

You repeatedly lied, mislead, and gaslit people over the definition of your batches before finally coming clean. This is the problem. Every time there has been an issue, you can’t help but lie to try and cover up the reality. Only when pinned in a corner do you ever come clean.

So again, not recycling, reminding people who they’re dealing with. But I’m sure it’ll be different this time, right?

Quick clarification on “same batch” and variance. A batch is a single, homogenized production run mixed, filtered, and filled under the same conditions from the same raw source. Within that, small result swings are normal and typically come from sampling technique, vial position during fill, agitation before aliquoting, lab method differences, instrument calibration and stated uncertainty, and sample prep losses. Two results that fall within the method’s combined uncertainty are statistically consistent with the same batch.

The clean way to verify is to pull a well-mixed composite, split it, run the same method at the same lab in parallel, and document chain of custody. If the spread exceeds the method’s uncertainty, we investigate; if it does not, it reflects normal analytical scatter rather than a different or inconsistent batch. If any of this sounds unfamiliar, it may just be a misunderstanding of how batches and analytical uncertainty work…

If you truly understood the science behind it, you’d realize that what you’re calling “discrepancies” are actually confirmation of reproducibility. A 10% swing is well within normal variance when comparing different analytical setups, solvents, calibration curves, and reference standards.

And this is exactly why your critiques don’t land. You tried “measuring plastics” without a validated leachables/extractables protocol, no blanks or spike-recovery, no matrix-matched calibration, and treated artifact peaks as proof. That’s when you lost credibility and why I stopped engaging. If you want to talk science, bring a real method. Declared SOP, controls, calibration traceability, and replicate RSD. Otherwise you’re just waving screenshots at complex assays you don’t understand.

I hear you, but the idea that one blind test automatically defines an entire batch isn’t how this works. A single 220 result on a 250 label is something we review internally, but it’s not a reason to tell every customer to assume a different concentration. That would be irresponsible and scientifically wrong. We also aren’t expecting anyone to send their own vial in.

What we will do is verify our own process and tighten anything that needs tightening. We’ll also take care of anyone who reaches out with a specific concern.

I don’t think some of you guys understand how batches actually work. When someone brings up using a volumetric flask, that absolutely does impact vial to vial variance. The total accuracy of the batch starts with how precisely the final volume is measured. A calibrated volumetric flask gives you an exact volume instead of 'close enough' and that locks in the correct mg/mL for the entire batch.

Once the batch is fully mixed and uniform, every vial you pull should be the same because it’s all coming from the same solution. If the total volume is off even slightly, the concentration is already wrong before you ever start filling vials, and that’s where inconsistencies appear.

So yeah, better volumetric accuracy does lead to better sample consistency. They’re directly connected brothers!

 

[Primal_Pharma]

It’s not recycling, it’s reminding. And you have a track record of dishonesty, so it would be foolish for anyone to take you at your word that you’re now using volumetric flasks and true homogeneous batches until it’s proven through repeated 3rd party testing.

You repeatedly lied, mislead, and gaslit people over the definition of your batches before finally coming clean. This is the problem. Every time there has been an issue, you can’t help but lie to try and cover up the reality. Only when pinned in a corner do you ever come clean.

So again, not recycling, reminding people who they’re dealing with. But I’m sure it’ll be different this time, right?

Brother, your team that has nothing better to do reminds us everyday. You’re just clocking in for overtime at this point lol

 

[Primal_Pharma]

@justanoob is how most of these little internet critics wish they looked like and he’s been running our stuff exclusively for months. His kind of results are what the comment experts couldn’t buy or photoshop their way into.

Labs already back it up, and he’s walking proof. The rest of the little keyboard warriors can keep typing their feelings out, but it’s really not moving the needle. (No PUN intended)

Drop the bacon and pick up the steak, brother!

 

[justanoob]

@justanoob is how most of these little internet critics wish they looked like and he’s been running our stuff exclusively for months. His kind of results are what the comment experts couldn’t buy or photoshop their way into.

Labs already back it up, and he’s walking proof. The rest of the little keyboard warriors can keep typing their feelings out, but it’s really not moving the needle. (No PUN intended)

Drop the bacon and pick up the steak, brother!

I gotta be careful with the red meats because my hematocrit gets too high lmaoooo. But I have been running @Primal_Pharma gear exclusively for a while now and I have had nothing but excellent results from it. I just wanna be big and strong so someone will love me

 

[Primal_Pharma]

I gotta be careful with the red meats because my hematocrit gets too high lmaoooo. But I have been running @Primal_Pharma gear exclusively for a while now and I have had nothing but excellent results from it. I just wanna be big and strong so someone will love me

someone love you soon dear. do not worry friend

 

[Photon]

@justanoob is how most of these little internet critics wish they looked like and he’s been running our stuff exclusively for months. His kind of results are what the comment experts couldn’t buy or photoshop their way into.

Labs already back it up, and he’s walking proof. The rest of the little keyboard warriors can keep typing their feelings out, but it’s really not moving the needle. (No PUN intended)

Drop the bacon and pick up the steak, brother!

This is the truth. You can run the crappiest gear made in a toiletbowl and still look muscular. That's just how AAS works. Most people have ran AAS even before testing was available, purchased from the most dubious sources, probably contaminated, unknown doses and whatever.

The bottom line is usually price, availability and the Chinese is just evidence of that, and well most other sources.

What he has is years of dedication and hard work and from using gear from multiple sources. Claiming all that credit..who knows maybe he could have done better elsewhere..lol

 

[Athleticfreak]

@justanoob is how most of these little internet critics wish they looked like and he’s been running our stuff exclusively for months. His kind of results are what the comment experts couldn’t buy or photoshop their way into.

Labs already back it up, and he’s walking proof. The rest of the little keyboard warriors can keep typing their feelings out, but it’s really not moving the needle. (No PUN intended)

Drop the bacon and pick up the steak, brother!

You think that physique was built off your gear lol you really are brain damaged. That’s years of work and he’s in other source threads ordering product.

 

[justanoob]

You think that physique was built off your gear lol you really are brain damaged. That’s years of work and he’s in other source threads ordering product.

Alriiiight. I’m not trying to be brought into the middle of this back and forth. I have called @Primal_Pharma out on plenty of things so I’m not shilling in any way.

I will say, I went from this to that in June till now, running exclusively primals gear. Not saying I only built this physique because of his gear, but up until like two weeks ago when I ordered from another source on this website, everything besides the peptides, and some GH has been all primals gear. I pin daily. I’ve never had terrible pip, an infection or anything of that sort.

In June I didn’t have a terrible starting base. But I was about 242lb, I’m now mid 290s. Again, pure depression, isolation, and dedication fueled this. But all the gear I’ve pinned from primal has given me the results I’d expect. That’s my two cents

Edit: again, not trying to shill, and definitely don’t want to continue being in the back and forth pissing match with everybody. Just stating that besides my most result batch of tren 200 that I’ve posted publicly about, everything else from Test E, Sust, Tren, EQ, NPP, Reta, Melanotan, and the black tops (fuck me for buying the purple tops too lol) have worked well and I can’t complain.

 

[crispybacon!]

Brother, your team that has nothing better to do reminds us everyday. You’re just clocking in for overtime at this point lol

Stop acting like a victim, dude. No ones out to get you, and you are your own worst enemy…

I was responding to someone asking about the COA on your site, reminding them that you have a history of inconsistent testing. That’s simply a fact.

You decided to open your mouth and respond, attempting to minimize the issue. So I simply provided receipts of your fuckery.

 

[AlexDavis43]

I wouldn’t rely on the COAs on the website. We’ve already seen significant variances in the past. For example, 3rd party testing for Test Cyp 250 “batch” P10 came back at ~220, ~230, ~240, ~250, & ~260mg.

If Primal is actually following through with brewing true batches going forward, 3rd party testing should prove that out. Until then, I’d argue it’s a crap shoot.

Thanks for posting this with links

It's so easy to be like "I think it was something like this or that" without spending 2 minutes to find the links

It makes it so much easier for everyone to follow along (and adds a ton of credibility to your claim)

It's very appreciated; same true for @Photon

 

[amicedrot]

Anyword on the new cyp p14 batch? Has anyone purchased and tried it out , blood work,feels etc

pretty sure thats the one ive been using. im 4-5 injections in and no side effects so far. a few weeks out from bloods yet, gotta titrate

 

[Matty_G]

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Alriiiight. I’m not trying to be brought into the middle of this back and forth. I have called @Primal_Pharma out on plenty of things so I’m not shilling in any way.

I will say, I went from this to that in June till now, running exclusively primals gear. Not saying I only built this physique because of his gear, but up until like two weeks ago when I ordered from another source on this website, everything besides the peptides, and some GH has been all primals gear. I pin daily. I’ve never had terrible pip, an infection or anything of that sort.

In June I didn’t have a terrible starting base. But I was about 242lb, I’m now mid 290s. Again, pure depression, isolation, and dedication fueled this. But all the gear I’ve pinned from primal has given me the results I’d expect. That’s my two cents

Edit: again, not trying to shill, and definitely don’t want to continue being in the back and forth pissing match with everybody. Just stating that besides my most result batch of tren 200 that I’ve posted publicly about, everything else from Test E, Sust, Tren, EQ, NPP, Reta, Melanotan, and the black tops (fuck me for buying the purple tops too lol) have worked well and I can’t complain.

You def getting some free test prop on ur next order brotha ! You’re a unit !

 

[justanoob]

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You def getting some free test prop on ur next order brotha ! You’re a unit !

Nah I don't like to accept free stuff it genuinely makes me feel awkward af. I truly just share my experience and people can take that for what its worth. Only free things I ever gladly accepted were the ducks goodlyfe used to send out. I still have a collection of those cuties.

Edit: I've never tried Test prop though and that has been something I've been considering since i pin daily anyway.

 

[AlexDavis43]

And you have a track record of dishonesty, so it would be foolish for anyone to take you at your word that you’re now using volumetric flasks and true homogeneous batches until it’s proven through repeated 3rd party testing.

Using volumetric flasks is a guarantee of nothing

Plenty of home brewers have been hitting their target mg/mL without them since forever

until it’s proven through repeated 3rd party testing.

yes

 

[AlexDavis43]

little internet critics

little keyboard warriors

come on man, don't need to go there

there are some fairly well-respected members contributing in this thread and I don't think this behavior persuades them one iota

 

[jan912]

Nah I don't like to accept free stuff it genuinely makes me feel awkward af. I truly just share my experience and people can take that for what its worth. Only free things I ever gladly accepted were the ducks goodlyfe used to send out. I still have a collection of those cuties.

Edit: I've never tried Test prop though and that has been something I've been considering since i pin daily anyway.

Prop is awesome, 300mg to me feels like 600 Cyp.

 

[CastleSF]

Prop is awesome, 300mg to me feels like 600 Cyp.

Are the test prop shots more painful?