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[Athleticfreak]

I don’t understand. Nobody is upset lol. Are you okay, dear?

I’m just fine, you’re the one who made the “attention seeking is unreal” comment.

Just cause you get oils from China doesn’t mean you have to call us “dear” like they do lol.

 

[Primal_Pharma]

I’m just fine, you’re the one who made the “attention seeking is unreal” comment.

Just cause you get oils from China doesn’t mean you have to call us “dear” like they do lol.

Sorry… dear

 

[Magenzus]

Is the Test cyp 250 for sale on the web site the same one that third part testing put slightly overdosed and another vial under at around 200 from 250?

 

[crispybacon!]

Is the Test cyp 250 for sale on the web site the same one that third part testing put slightly overdosed and another vial under at around 200 from 250?

I wouldn’t rely on the COAs on the website. We’ve already seen significant variances in the past. For example, 3rd party testing for Test Cyp 250 “batch” P10 came back at ~220, ~230, ~240, ~250, & ~260mg.

If Primal is actually following through with brewing true batches going forward, 3rd party testing should prove that out. Until then, I’d argue it’s a crap shoot.

Closing this out… I received the results from the 3 additional TC250-P10 (early-September) samples.

First, I want to give credit where it’s due. Despite anything else, I have to give props to @Primal_Pharma for agreeing to this testing without hesitation. This goes a long way in rebuilding trust (for me at least). I’m hopeful the results can benefit the community and help to improve Primal’s processes, particularly regarding how they brew and/or define batches.

Here are the combined results for the 4 different TC250 P10 (early-September) samples:

Full 10ml vial: 220.93 mg/ml
Sample A: 231.73 mg/ml
Sample B: 224.32 mg/ml
Sample C: 220.62 mg/ml

Average: 224.4 mg/ml

Janoshik Analytical
Janoshik Analytical
Janoshik Analytical
Janoshik Analytical

Here is the final results of the samples I sent into Jano.

P11 Sealed Vial Batch - 235.63 mg/ml
P11 Combined Vial Batch (14 P11 vials combined & sample drawn from 100ml vial) - 252.20 mg/ml

P11 Sealed Jano Link
P11 Combined Jano Link

P10 Sealed Vial Batch - 261.82 mg/ml
P10 Combined Batch (14 P10 vials combined & sample drawn from 100ml vial) - 249.13 mg/ml

P10 Sealed Jano Link
P10 Combined Jano Link

 

[Magenzus]

I wouldn’t rely on the COAs on the website. We’ve already seen significant variances in the past. For example, 3rd party testing for Test Cyp 250 “batch” P10 came back at ~220, ~230, ~240, ~250, & ~260mg.

If Primal is actually following through with brewing true batches going forward, 3rd party testing should prove that out. Until then, I’d argue it’s a crap shoot.

Yeah. Dont know why I remember one coming in at like 200. I guess my vials could be anywhere in that range, no way of knowing.

 

[Cman90]

Yeah. Dont know why I remember one coming in at like 200. I guess my vials could be anywhere in that range, no way of knowing.

Also a possibility of plastic, TE cross contamination, or Chinese gutter oil.

They're mystery vials at this point.

 

[crispybacon!]

Yeah. Dont know why I remember one coming in at like 200. I guess my vials could be anywhere in that range, no way of knowing.

One way of knowing - send it in for testing. But just know that if you have more than one vial, they may not be the same concentration - mine weren’t and they were purchased at the same time.

 

[Magenzus]

Also a possibility of plastic, TE cross contamination, or Chinese gutter oil.

They're mystery vials at this point.

Plastic was just on the tren right?

One way of knowing - send it in for testing. But just know that if you have more than one vial, they may not be the same concentration - mine weren’t and they were purchased at the same time.

Yeah I know. ill have to send two.

 

[Magenzus]

Cheaper to just buy test elsewhere than to test for blind and contamination.

 

[Cman90]

Plastic was just on the tren right?



Yeah I know. ill have to send two.

Who knows. The plastic was only discovered in the Tren because of a customer GCMS. Imagine all the other things that have slipped under the radar without being tested. All those blood tests don't quite cut it in regard to sterility/accuracy.

His morals and sourcing are questionable to say the least.

 

[monster8912]

Yeah. Dont know why I remember one coming in at like 200. I guess my vials could be anywhere in that range, no way of knowing.

I think it was the test U that had a 200 when it was supposed to be 250.

 

[Athleticfreak]

One way of knowing - send it in for testing. But just know that if you have more than one vial, they may not be the same concentration - mine weren’t and they were purchased at the same time.

The right thing to do is buy from a different source.