post anavar blowback

[adrenalytic]

dont you dare shame on my god's candy (insert angry noises)
at 50mg daily its THE steroid i wanna use year round. i have deep love for var <3

Oh I'm def not hating on var. Just how it's used and the unrealistic expectations around it. I use it as a pwo myself. Awesome pumps and vascularity. Straight beast mode in the gym. But it would be retarded of me to credit any of my gains to it.

 

[pictou]

look at the steroid profile thread for Oxandrolone, its all in there

thanks I did not see that one...the internet is a big place and I actually avoided these forums until recently on purpose. quick scan I didn't see anything about the bounce back I was asking about but there are 17 pages to go through still...

 

[BabaJagga]

agreed which is why i did 20mg twice a day. I also new the cycle was short but wasnt yet sure how my labs would respond so wanted to do a short run and also stop a week or so before going under the knife as a precaution. good test to see how my before/after labs will respond and also to quantify my results over that time period. This is just a test! I actually thought my gains were pretty decent for only a 4 week cycle but my expectations were low and i lost a good amount of fat at same time AND i was in calorie deficit so another reason I wasn't expecting big gains. not to mention my test is low for bulking. As genius above said if i wanted big gains I would have tried something more potent but im not there yet...I'm in my 50's so proceeding with caution.

ou my bad, ive read that total daily dose was 20mg. 40 is good.

you can expect higher ldl and lower hdl as ussual, if you are not on statin.

last year i did 8 weeks of 50mg daily togeather with mast and statin, hdl was 14 ofc but ldl 43 so good result. liver values were untouched.

as for orals in general, any gains are mostly tepm thing... sadly.

if deployed during cut, var is great imo. vascularity, hardness, ive hit some PR's in almost no kcal, deep in deficit. also, if used 30-45min preworkokt, it gives nice boost.

im not sure if anticatabolic effect of var is stronger than with +350mg of test per week but bar has that nice hard and veiny cosmetic look.

 

[pictou]

ou my bad, ive read that total daily dose was 20mg. 40 is good.

you can expect higher ldl and lower hdl as ussual, if you are not on statin.

last year i did 8 weeks of 50mg daily togeather with mast and statin, hdl was 14 ofc but ldl 43 so good result. liver values were untouched.

as for orals in general, any gains are mostly tepm thing... sadly.

if deployed during cut, var is great imo. vascularity, hardness, ive hit some PR's in almost no kcal, deep in deficit. also, if used 30-45min preworkokt, it gives nice boost.

im not sure if anticatabolic effect of var is stronger than with +350mg of test per week but bar has that nice hard and veiny cosmetic look.

yeah i def saw response in labs with HDL and AST pretty quick. I really loved it. as you say good pumps and vascularity. my gains were solid depending the scale i was looking at (recomp scales) and given the low test background and calorie deficit I was pretty happy with the outcome. I do my my first post cycle labs tomorrow (week after roughly). Will do another end February to see where I came back to. Assuming all looks goo any future anavar would be at 500mg+ test and not in calorie deficit...I am still trying to get my weight down enough to really capitialize on AAS benefits...still got another 10-15 lbs to go i reckon to get to the body fat % I want to see.

 

[BabaJagga]

Oh I'm def not hating on var. Just how it's used and the unrealistic expectations around it. I use it as a pwo myself. Awesome pumps and vascularity. Straight beast mode in the gym. But it would be retarded of me to credit any of my gains to it.

i think if you would use it for longer period of time, you could for sure build solid tissue with it. at 50mg daily its additional 350mg weekly of anabolic, with increase in strenght and ability to push yourself in gym.

but again, for sure for growth there are better options. i like var in general, great for cut but i wouldnt use it in growth phase.

 

[BabaJagga]

yeah i def saw response in labs with HDL and AST pretty quick. I really loved it. as you say good pumps and vascularity. my gains were solid depending the scale i was looking at (recomp scales) and given the low test background and calorie deficit I was pretty happy with the outcome. I do my my first post cycle labs tomorrow (week after roughly). Will do another end February to see where I came back to. Assuming all looks goo any future anavar would be at 500mg+ test and not in calorie deficit...I am still trying to get my weight down enough to really capitialize on AAS benefits...still got another 10-15 lbs to go i reckon to get to the body fat % I want to see.

i think using orals for growth phase is bit pointless. toxicity vs anabolism ration, or sides ratio.

ive dabbled with anadrol in december and it ruined my bulk basicly. apettite down in 5-7 days (3 weeks in total) at 50mg daily. im probably only guy that lost 3,5kg in 3 weeks during anadrol run...

in deficit its fine and actually + in my book but when you wanna grow, you dont wanna use any stuff that will mess with your digestion and apettite. its more harm than benefit imo.

just 500 test alone will push you quite far. i like test only for growing so far (i have experience with only masteron as secondary injectable, in cut), it works. happy, hungry, horny. i belive test only + ai will get you pretty far.

 

[pictou]

i think if you would use it for longer period of time, you could for sure build solid tissue with it. at 50mg daily its additional 350mg weekly of anabolic, with increase in strenght and ability to push yourself in gym.

but again, for sure for growth there are better options. i like var in general, great for cut but i wouldnt use it in growth phase.

yes for certain. as i probably mentioned earlier my next one post surgery will likely be 500 test + primo (300-500 TBC based on e2 response). WIll probably go 12-16 weeks and I think I will be at my desired body fat by then too so will be at maintenance or above calorie wise. I have a bit of NPP kicking around I am contemplating sprinkling in at some point but need to do more thinking about best way to do that. 16 weeks is a while-i see no reason I can throw a bit of variety in the mix for a month or 2 somewhere in the midst...primo is another "lower growth" base but fits my goals at the moment...get a good lean base to go off of before doing anything too aggressive.

 

[delay3s]

Wait until you try superdrol or anadrol its basically body dysmorphia in a pill

 

[BabaJagga]

yes for certain. as i probably mentioned earlier my next one post surgery will likely be 500 test + primo (300-500 TBC based on e2 response). WIll probably go 12-16 weeks and I think I will be at my desired body fat by then too so will be at maintenance or above calorie wise. I have a bit of NPP kicking around I am contemplating sprinkling in at some point but need to do more thinking about best way to do that. 16 weeks is a while-i see no reason I can throw a bit of variety in the mix for a month or 2 somewhere in the midst...primo is another "lower growth" base but fits my goals at the moment...get a good lean base to go off of before doing anything too aggressive.

it will work for sure.

one thing that sucks about primo is oil volume. i was very eager to try it but again, if total anabolic load is, lets say 500mg, i think you will grow better with test only than 300/200 test/primo. but thats just my opinion. it will work either way

then after you have your injectables saturated, at the end of growth phase you can try some oral to have fun with and push strenght a bit. anadrol was antigravity pill. on very few kcals i was round and full, strenght was rising and i had to remind myself that connective tisue injury is very real.

if you are 50, probably its wise to not rush it with toxic compounds. rather use milder stuff for longer.

 

[pictou]

it will work for sure.

one thing that sucks about primo is oil volume. i was very eager to try it but again, if total anabolic load is, lets say 500mg, i think you will grow better with test only than 300/200 test/primo. but thats just my opinion. it will work either way

then after you have your injectables saturated, at the end of growth phase you can try some oral to have fun with and push strenght a bit. anadrol was antigravity pill. on very few kcals i was round and full, strenght was rising and i had to remind myself that connective tisue injury is very real.

if you are 50, probably its wise to not rush it with toxic compounds. rather use milder stuff for longer.

my thinking also...thus the anavar and primo to start. again when you come from nothing even the most mild seem beneficial! nowhere to go but up

 

[RockyP]

Anavar-only cycle. Thread for entertainment purposes only.

Also lost 5-7% bf in a month.

 

[xrayphoton13]

There's no reason to split anavar up during the day. Testosterone is your base and running in the background the entire time for anabolism. Use all your anavar at one time preworkout to increase neural drive during the workout. I don't even use it on non workout days. I love anavar used in this way

 

[BigDadd7]

yes i agree-i am relatively new as others have pointed out (no shame in that) so I am being a bit cautious with my choices...I am familiar with the toxicity and mitigated as you would. Anavar is a "beginner oral" and i am preparing for a higher test only run in a month or 2 but have a surgery in between so wanted to get some gains prior to having to be off gym for a month or so but afterwards will be looking at a test 500 or so +/- primo most likely to aid in recovery and back to gym recomp.

One dumb cycle to the next. Good lord.

 

[pictou]

There's no reason to split anavar up during the day. Testosterone is your base and running in the background the entire time for anabolism. Use all your anavar at one time preworkout to increase neural drive during the workout. I don't even use it on non workout days. I love anavar used in this way

i was going off half life...pump isnt what im going for and still got good enough anyway

One dumb cycle to the next. Good lord.

didnt ask you and many would disagree with your take. fuck a lot of dumb asses here

 

[BabaJagga]

i was going off half life...pump isnt what im going for and still got good enough anyway

didnt ask you and many would disagree with your take. fuck a lot of dumb asses here

halflife is 10h so when taken daily, you wiľ have it in your system workin. preworkout boost from 40mg imo would be worth not so stable lebels.

 

[pictou]

halflife is 10h so when taken daily, you wiľ have it in your system workin. preworkout boost from 40mg imo would be worth not so stable lebels.

exactly so i took them about 10 hours apart give or take...next time maybe i'll add a pre work out intermediate small dose or something just for fun

 

[BabaJagga]

exactly so i took them about 10 hours apart give or take...next time maybe i'll add a pre work out intermediate small dose or something just for fun

no need to split it i mean. stable levels doesnt much i think. you are better of with accute preworkout boost that let you get maximum (or more hehe) from your workouts. i always have more brutal training with 50mg preworkout. i can overdo it in volume very quickly

 

[pictou]

no need to split it i mean. stable levels doesnt much i think. you are better of with accute preworkout boost that let you get maximum (or more hehe) from your workouts. i always have more brutal training with 50mg preworkout. i can overdo it in volume very quickly

you think? Interesting. I'm particularly cautious with my joints...over doing it at my age is something to be careful about

 

[frofrank]

Yeah lets remember OP is 50 stop trying to kill the guy