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[ZaddyZonar]

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What’s up with the underdosing blind testing that was posted a few hours ago?

 

[RThoads]

Completely ignoring the fact the blind tests all came back underdosed.

there is no trust in these days to janoshek as well

No, friend, if non-compliant shitty products come out, it's not the market's fault.

It's because you buy from that market without first testing your RAWs.

Still is. If you want to put trust in a source with 3 blind tests that just came back 10-25% underdosed across the board, go right ahead.

Please look at my post again, I thanked him for getting testing and sharing the results. We all benefit from analysis results (I also use these products).

Also, I do trust Jano results. I have shared Jano results now for years; just look at my own posts. I did not say anything negative about Jano or the results.

But I cannot change the results -- the data is the data.
I'm not sure there are even any stock left for some of these products. So, don't know if its even possible for me to request another sample of any of these to get more testing (there can be variation in individual testing results) or try to determine what's going on.

Some of these products may not ever be produced again because of the raw material shortage (shortage is a soft word -- the fact is that the chemicals to make some AAS are not produced anymore).
I just don't know -- none of us know -- if/when some of the compounds will ever be produced again. If the raw material situation does not change, some things may never be made again, by any source, in our lifetimes.

I did not do the math to see how much some of these results are underdosed, but I can see that the results came back less than label claim.
You guys are welcome to get all excited and spend many hours bashing the source -- I agree the results are below label claim., so no problem, go for it,
But, the results are what they are and the fact is that some of these compounds simply are no longer available.

I still want to use AAS and need to get them somewhere; and, Pharmacom Labs products are still my best option.
At least these results show me what chemical are in the vials are that they compounds I want; I can't risk some random source and not knowing what chemicals are in the vial.
I have seen some recent results where labs put aspartame or acetaminophen etc. in the vial instead of AAS .

I do not see anything dangerous or harmful in these results.
These results do not show something tragic or harmful, such as contamination or toxic impurities etc.
These results simply show that my shot of AAS may have a little less AAS than I thought.

So, for me, I will still be using these products myself.
Pharmacom Labs is by far still my best option.
Of course, I respect to each his or her own and that you each may make your own choices regarding what you use or don't use.

 

[RThoads]

used to beeeee

Why do you say this?
Did something happen to make you question Jano results?
Basicstero has used Jano's service for a few years now.

 

[Joehenderson]

Those emails were likely written years ago and most likely are very outdated info. The email you get after placing an order is an automated system message. It is not an individually written email from a current staff member. You can get the most up-to-date information from writing to the customer support on the Basicstero site (use the messenger in your Basicstero account).

If you scroll through the thread, you can find good times and difficult times, and changes to methods to overcome the difficult times.
This type of business present a lot of unique challenges (possible inspections, international tariffs, customs clearance, etc.).
So the source has to learn about whatever new situations arise and make changes each time there is a new challenge.
Whatever shipping method was used years ago has been changed many times since then to keep moving forward and have success in whatever new conditions exists.

I got the same generic response from them on the site, its old info but it still goes out to thousands of people? For years? I've ordered before from basic and the tracking always showed before 7 days , so when do i receive it when it clears customs in the sent country or my country?

 

[RThoads]

I got the same generic response from them on the site, its old info but it still goes out to thousands of people? For years? I've ordered before from basic and the tracking always showed before 7 days , so when do i receive it when it clears customs in the sent country or my country?

The situations change in real time. I have no way to know exactly when you will get a tracking number or how fast your package will move. There are a lot of variables beyond anyone's control.
The source's customer support will have access to the most recent information.

In my own recent experience (as recent as the past couple months), I have received tracking around 4 weeks after my orders shipped.
Then, the tracking already showed ,my packages were in my destination country. So, I assume they already passed customs clearance before I even had tracking. Once the tracking started getting updates, my packs arrived very quickly after that time.

 

[RThoads]

Test enanthate 300mg
Pharma mix 300mg
(Mast e and p)
NPP 100mg

@BigJP Where did you buy these products?
From which source?
If they are from Basicstero, what is the Basicstero order number that these vials came from?
I am investigating this situation.

 

[PHL Official]

Test enanthate 300mg
Pharma mix 300mg
(Mast e and p)
NPP 100mg

Bro, I checked your tests on Jano's official website and I want to say that these are not our vials. The shape of the glass, the aluminum rolling, the consistency of the oil solution - this is not Pharmacom Labs. It seems you decided to scam us, isn't that right?
@janoshik please give your comments on this matter urgently!

 

[BigJP]

@BigJP Where did you buy these products?
From which source?
If they are from Basicstero, what is the Basicstero order number that these vials came from?
I am investigating this situation.

Yes from Basicstero. You’ll see on my account and in our DM convo history I’ve been ordering from there since 2015.
This was ORDER #E1VET36C

 

[PHL Official]

No, friend, if non-compliant shitty products come out, it's not the market's fault.

It's because you buy from that market without first testing your RAWs.

Hey!
I would like to say that we test every batch on our chromotography machine before putting it into production. Not long ago, we were sold more than 5 kg of completely empty powder under the guise of stanozolol. Such raw materials will never be used in our products; we select only the best that is currently available on the market!

 

[johnjay06]

Bro, I checked your tests on Jano's official website and I want to say that these are not our vials. The shape of the glass, the aluminum rolling, the consistency of the oil solution - this is not Pharmacom Labs. It seems you decided to scam us, isn't that right?
@janoshik please give your comments on this matter urgently!

I’m guessing he took some out of your vial, put in a sample vial and sent that to jano to be tested. That’s how everyone does it so they don’t have to give their entire product to jano as he only needs a ml or so. I’m not sure what you think jano can say.

 

[BigJP]

Bro, I checked your tests on Jano's official website and I want to say that these are not our vials. The shape of the glass, the aluminum rolling, the consistency of the oil solution - this is not Pharmacom Labs. It seems you decided to scam us, isn't that right?
@janoshik please give your comments on this matter urgently!

Wrong sir. Before you accuse me of trying to scams you, I have a timestamped video of me extracting the sample from pharmacom vials and putting them into unlabeled vials so it would be a true blind test. This way if there was any backdoor deal with the lab they wouldn’t recognize the brand name or label.
I didn’t ask for anything in return, I didn’t even ask for a refund or store credit. So you accusing me of scamming is a bad look. I simply tested the products I bought and use myself and then posted the results.

 

[YiL]

Wrong sir. Before you accuse me of trying to scams you, I have a timestamped video of me extracting the sample from pharmacom vials and putting them into unlabeled vials so it would be a true blind test. This way if there was any backdoor deal with the lab they wouldn’t recognize the brand name or label.
I didn’t ask for anything in return, I didn’t even ask for a refund or store credit. So you accusing me of scamming is a bad look. I simply tested the products I bought and use myself and then posted the results.

Touche sir

 

[BigJP]

Wrong sir. Before you accuse me of trying to scams you, I have a timestamped video of me extracting the sample from pharmacom vials and putting them into unlabeled vials so it would be a true blind test. This way if there was any backdoor deal with the lab they wouldn’t recognize the brand name or label.
I didn’t ask for anything in return, I didn’t even ask for a refund or store credit. So you accusing me of scamming is a bad look. I simply tested the products I bought and use myself and then posted the results.

 

[BigJP]

Bro, I checked your tests on Jano's official website and I want to say that these are not our vials. The shape of the glass, the aluminum rolling, the consistency of the oil solution - this is not Pharmacom Labs. It seems you decided to scam us, isn't that right?
@janoshik please give your comments on this matter urgently!

You should take some notes from @RThoads on how to handle customer interactions.

 

[Raww]

Bro, I checked your tests on Jano's official website and I want to say that these are not our vials. The shape of the glass, the aluminum rolling, the consistency of the oil solution - this is not Pharmacom Labs. It seems you decided to scam us, isn't that right?
@janoshik please give your comments on this matter urgently!

Whoa!

Your first thought and reaction is to call him a scammer?

That's a bold strategy.

 

[ZaddyZonar]

Hey!
I would like to say that we test every batch on our chromotography machine before putting it into production. Not long ago, we were sold more than 5 kg of completely empty powder under the guise of stanozolol. Such raw materials will never be used in our products; we select only the best that is currently available on the market!

Yall need to learn to brew, 10-25% underdose on each blind test is garbage, especially the prices yall charge for international

 

[PHL Official]

Wrong sir. Before you accuse me of trying to scams you, I have a timestamped video of me extracting the sample from pharmacom vials and putting them into unlabeled vials so it would be a true blind test. This way if there was any backdoor deal with the lab they wouldn’t recognize the brand name or label.
I didn’t ask for anything in return, I didn’t even ask for a refund or store credit. So you accusing me of scamming is a bad look. I simply tested the products I bought and use myself and then posted the results.

For example - your first test:

Janoshik Analytical

task number - 92231
Unique key for checking - ZEF17A65YZQD

Janoshik Analytical - checking...

And we see a photo of a vial—this is absolutely not our product!



Here is an example of a photo of our product in a blind test at Jano -



Even without the label and cap, I can tell you with absolute certainty that this is not our vial.

 

[ZaddyZonar]

For example - your first test:

Janoshik Analytical

task number - 92231
Unique key for checking - ZEF17A65YZQD

Janoshik Analytical - checking...

And we see a photo of a vial—this is absolutely not our product!

View attachment 366238

Here is an example of a photo of our product in a blind test at Jano -

View attachment 366241

Even without the label and cap, I can tell you with absolute certainty that this is not our vial.

No shit, he just advised he transferred to another vial for testing. Jano only requires a 1ML sample

Calling a longtime customer a scammer when he hasn’t even asked for reimbursement, or compensation for the underdosed gear is wild

 

[PHL Official]

I’m guessing he took some out of your vial, put in a sample vial and sent that to jano to be tested. That’s how everyone does it so they don’t have to give their entire product to jano as he only needs a ml or so. I’m not sure what you think jano can say.

Then such a test cannot be considered valid. Where is the evidence that this is our oil at all?