sionnach
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Sure there is. The breakdown products from vegetable oil oxidation are known aldehydes, hydroperoxides, free fatty acids, and ketones.
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Photon
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Would those show up on a GCMS?
What i meant was, I dont think Jano has an existing test for that, maybe he'd need to create a new test.
Photon
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Depending on the cost, it might be worthwhile to get the PV value of the darkest and lightest Tren oils.
Peroxide value - Wikipedia
Oldhand
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Adding to this, I’m sure the oil would be checked for bacteria and fungus. If it is still sterile that is a great sign.
Let's fucking do It!
AllGoodThings
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Would someone who can tolerate Dbol well, from an estrogenic standpoint, also likely handle trest well?
AbsoluteKnight
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If we’re talking from an aromatization standpoint then yea I’d say so, in general I’d say you’d tolerate it better given it isn’t an oral as well
bigdaddyandfriends
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Trest can be used to restore E2 just like Dbol, it just takes a little time same as testosterone. It's not that easy to crash E2 with Aromasin but it is possible if improperly used particularly if someone is already a low aromatizer.
The quickest way to feel better is to megadose DHEA and/or inject estradiol valerate. Not many sources have the latter but it is out there - I know one member here who basically eliminated all aromatizing compounds (except for nandrolone which barely aromatizes) and injected estradiol validate every other day to maintain his E2. I don't think that's a good idea for various reasons but it sort of worked.
bigdaddyandfriends
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Yes similar to dbol without the liver toxicity. The methyl estrogen is different (7⍺ MENT vs 17⍺ Dbol) and the both the androgen and estrogen are more potent with MENT, in part because they cannot bind to SHBG. That's why a TRT dose is like 2-3mg/day... that amount of Dbol won't do anything.
A single 12cc vial of 100mg/ml MENT could last over a year if dosed for TRT. It's an expensive compound, but actually very cheap considering how it should be used. The typical 25-35mg/day is a very high dose - similar to 2-3gm/wk test.
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BamaCrazy
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Valerate is such a short ester you can give your E2 a quick boost if you know the correct dose. There is a Domestic source that has Estradiol Valerate, Cypionate and Enanthate.
SwolieGuacamole
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Why so much hype around ment?
bigdaddyandfriends
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Usually rancid/oxidized oil has a noticeable foul smell. So a really old vial might fail from that free/easy test. But it doesn't get that way overnight, it's a slow process obviously. All of us here likely have old vials... my oldest are about 2-3 years, so far they've all seemed okay. I actually popped one yesterday, it was injectable M-Sten from PSL (not a source here), mis-sold (and refunded) as Stenbolone Acetate. It was crashed so I fixed that with a mug warmer and took 20mg preworkout - all good. Was searching sources for stenbolone acetate with zero luck and remembered I still had it so figured what the hell. One manufacturer told me it hadn't been available as a raw for > 20 years.
Anyway some carriers oils have better longevity than others. I think tea tree oil (used in some old ZPHC batches) had a shorter shelf life than most. Not sure about MCT and Mig840 which I prefer, as they are very thin (except with primo or high concentrations of others) and I use 31g insulin pins. I have some vials with GSO, CSO, safflower oils too - they are a lot more viscous, still draw up but it takes a while. I only inject ~ 0.5cc per day so just deal with it, if I were doing high volumes would obviously use a Luer lock syringe and swap needles for drawing and injecting.
AllGoodThings
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Thanks for the information. It's an intriguing compound, that's for sure. I'm excited to see how I respond to it.
Did OEP say he was planning to offer it? Enanthate would be nice. I'd much prefer to buy from him vs some of the peptide vendors where I've found it available.
One can use cypionate or enantathe estradiol too
valerate is not the only one that can be injected.I bet OEP is real relieved you are giving him your blessing. That's right up there with good housekeeping seal of approval. Damn.
Give 'em hell OEP!
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AllGoodThings
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I think OEP would say that his interactions with the community here have only served to improve his product and add to his customer base, but according to dimwit34, he should stop bothering with the people here and only focus on brewing and filling orders. Brilliant idea
RockyP
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Hearing a lot of this.
It’s true lol
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