Nutrition Problems, Desperate

Ironchief

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Easy on me, I was pretty sure my nutrition was spot on, but clearly is not. Prior to my first cycle, when I cut and shredded naturally I got down to 10% @ 150 lbs (I'm 5'8). Sure I was a bit small but shredded, at the time I was eating 1950 calories there.

Now, skip some, I bulked naturally after, recomped some, did my first cycle, when all was set and done I was 190 lbs @ 16-17% and eating at 4,000 cals. Hell I was maintaining way after cycle just fine, even if I did gain a percent or so. Now, did my blood work, all was great, (cycle wasn't all that harsh nor that long and I played it smart. The problem is... I decided to cut, lowered my cals to 3,500. My weight maintained between 189-190. Weird. A few weeks later I lowered it to 3,000. Still between 188-190. After a few weeks I lowered it to 2,500 and I was still between 187-190. Wtf... Surprisingly however, I have not gotten weaker on any lift at all beyond the minimal strength loss right after pct.

I know I may get flamed for this, but because the cycle was shorter/milder, and my natural test was right to where it was, cholesterol was fine, and lipid profile was the same, I started a mild cutting cycle. Nothing crazy, just to stay anabolic. About 230mg Tet E wk for 12 weeks, kickstating it with var for the first 6 weeks between 50-60 day, going off for two weeks and finishing with tbol at a similar dosage. Just dropped my cals to 2,200 a couple days ago. I know it's not the smartest thing but going higher in calories is not an option, I don't wanna increase body fat, but I can't understand why, even though my nutrition seems fine, my training too, I can't lose weight at a deficit and my lifts are not dropping. Sorry for my habitual long posts I'm just pretty frustrated and hopefully someone with more knowledge and experience than me can help out. Thanks brothers.
 
Your eating too much because you overestimated your maintenance cals off cycle.
At 5'8, 190lbs, we're talking about having to go below 2,900 cals (give or take 10%) to be in a deficit. Well, if you want decent weekly progress, then we're talking a 25% deficit = 2,175 cals. So...there ya go.
 
Dang.. so this new lowest cals is where I'm actually supposed to be at? I was confused since I figured, well, I was maintaining 190 at 4,000 so any reasonable deficit (500 cals give it take). should elicit fat loss. Guess I was wrong.

Still, if my health is fine, T3/T4 levels in the blood work are as good as always, then why was I able to cut on higher calories at a lower weight when small and natty and less muscle than now that my nutrition and training is even better and I have much more muscle. I don't get it and it's screwing with my head.
 
Still, if my health is fine, T3/T4 levels in the blood work are as good as always, then why was I able to cut on higher calories at a lower weight when small and natty and less muscle than now that my nutrition and training is even better and I have much more muscle. I don't get it and it's screwing with my head.

Poor calorie tracking or a drastic reduction in energy expenditure. No other obvious explanation comes to mind.
 
Not all people can gain weight in a linear fashion. There was a prison study done on bodyweight in 1971 in Vermont. Basically, after a certain point, some people (around 20%) stop gaining weight no matter how many calories they eat. Some of those men ate 10K calories per day but couldn't exceed a 25% weight gain despite being totally sedentary.

Maybe 190 is your current weight limit. That is what it sounds like to me, especially since 4K is a lot for 190. Most people can easily maintain 190 at 3K/day.

By the way, it does change with age...
 

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