New Hybrid Gear?

[OhNoYo]

glad i could help on the topic.

if anyone has anymore questions on the higher mg/ml products just ask ill do my best to answer.

tank2005, are high doses such as the 600mg/ml being described have to be used w/ EO, or would that just be your best oil to use, but not necessarily essential, Sir?

 

[tank2005]

tank2005, are high doses such as the 600mg/ml being described have to be used w/ EO, or would that just be your best oil to use, but not necessarily essential, Sir?

good question .

eo would be the best oil (well its a solvent infact) to use due to its known use for keeping gear pain free and alos it helps keep the hormone from crashing ,the problem is that its expencive and alot of labs will not use it due to costs ,also some people can have reactions to eo .

one can also make the higher ml/ml with a 50/50 or 20/80 mix of eo and grape seeed oil (grape seed oil is the best oil to use imo) ,using just oil on its own like grape seed could infact make the final mix a litle more painful than if it were made with eo,agian i have made 400mgs/ml test e with just grape seed oil and its been near painles,here is what i used

1.5% ba

20% bb

test e powder

grape seed oil

use a 0.2um filter to filter the oil into 10ml vails -painless.

 

[tank2005]

bumpm ,anyone got any pics of this stuff ,i should be able to tell if there useing eo/oil/or a mix of both.

 

[tank2005]

here is what products they have .EQC5hundred

200mg/ml Testosterone Cypionate
100mg/ml Trenbolone Enanthate
200mg/ml Boldenone Undeclynate



Sus4fifty

75mg/ml Testosterone Propionate
75mg/ml Testosterone Phenylpionate
100mg/ml Testosterone isocaproate
100mg/ml Testosterone Decanoate
100mg/ml Testosterone Cypionate


Ten6hundred

200mg/ml Testosterone Cypionate
200mg/ml Boldenone Undeclynate
200mg/ml Nandrolone Decanoate


XTR 5Hundred

150mg/ml Trenbolone Enanthate
250mg/ml Testosterone Enanthate
100mg/ml Testosterone Propionate


TTX 4hundred

150mg/ml Trenbolone Enanthate
250mg/ml Testosterone Enanthate


DPL 4fifty

250mg/ml Testosterone Enanthate
200mg/ml Drostanolone Enanthate

 

[tank2005]

i must say thats its very nice clean presentation ,they look very good,as for the oil it dont look like no E.O to me EO is usealy clear ,but the pic i put up has tren in it so thats the normal colour ,looks like good stuff .

 

[razorbladecity]

i will have mine in one week, will update when it arrives

 

[OhNoYo]

i must say thats its very nice clean presentation ,they look very good,as for the oil it dont look like no E.O to me EO is usealy clear ,but the pic i put up has tren in it so thats the normal colour ,looks like good stuff .

You say it looks very nice clean presentation, so do you think its underdosed from the pic, Sir, or can you not really tell that from a pic alone? I know that when trenbolone acetate gets higher up in dosage mg per ml, it starts to look more like honey, color wise! :drooling: Are there certain things you can look for w/ other compounds to estimate for dosages too, Sir, or no?

 

[tank2005]

You say it looks very nice clean presentation, so do you think its underdosed from the pic, Sir, or can you not really tell that from a pic alone? I know that when trenbolone acetate gets higher up in dosage mg per ml, it starts to look more like honey, color wise! :drooling: Are there certain things you can look for w/ other compounds to estimate for dosages too, Sir, or no?

its imposable to tell if a product is rightly dosed just by looking at apart from tren and winny/test suppension as theres have the tell tail signs of couler for tren and wartery powder for winny and test s all other compounds that are in oil just look like oil so there is no way of telling if there is the right ammount of hormone in the product without getting it tested.

 

[tank2005]

i would be willing to give there new products a try if there not too painfull ,pain is a big factor when it comes to this sort of thing and if they could get it right and make it painless they would sell alot,but then again i think people would complain about it being underdosed if it was painless so its a no win situation ,dont you agree?

 

[TrainHard]

From my knowledge they have produced great quality products, Plus they have every batch independently tested to make sure what's on the label is what is in the product.

i would be willing to give there new products a try if there not too painfull ,pain is a big factor when it comes to this sort of thing and if they could get it right and make it painless they would sell alot,but then again i think people would complain about it being underdosed if it was painless so its a no win situation ,dont you agree?

 

[newbie23]

WRONG

BA IS UED TO KEEP THE PRODUCT CLEAN AND STERILE ,BB IS WHAT KEEPS IT FROM CRASHING ,BB IS A PAINLESS SOLVENT SO LET LOOK HOW ONE WOULD MAKE THIS PRODUCT -

2% ba

25% bb

eo soilvent

hormone powder

i have made a 450mgs/ml brew containing

150mgs test prop

150mgs npp

150mgs test a

that was made with the above solvents and it was not as painfull as some test e i have used at 250mgs/ml

i have also made a 600mg brew of

300mgs test e and 300mgs deca and its been near painless so it is possable it just if you know how.

NOTE- IT ALSO DEPENDS ON WHAT QUALITY THE RAW HORMONE POWDER IS ,THERE ARE POWDERS THAT CONATAIN A HIGH ACID CONTENT THIS GIVES THEM A MORE PAINFULL FINAL PRODUCT.

listen bro-that shit is gonna hurt.............PERIOD their is no reason to spread rumors that it wont-cause it just will

i believe BB to be a more painful solvent then BA-im sure BBC will havbe no problem backing that statement up for me

with that being said 20% is fine for concentration-but to say that 150mg prop and 150mg NPP together no less is not gonna hurt is just plain ludacris

i have made some 150mg prop that is less painful than axio's 100mg prop-as a matter of fact most of the axio prop is still in the cupboard cause im not using the stuff

now that we got that outta the way-ya if you cut it with some sterile oil-it should help null the pain

 

[newbie23]

also the the reason your deca test combo was painless is because deca has an extremely low melting point-and pretty much helps null the pain from anything as long as the deca was brewed correctly

 

[tank2005]

listen bro-that shit is gonna hurt.............PERIOD their is no reason to spread rumors that it wont-cause it just will

i believe BB to be a more painful solvent then BA-im sure BBC will havbe no problem backing that statement up for me

with that being said 20% is fine for concentration-but to say that 150mg prop and 150mg NPP together no less is not gonna hurt is just plain ludacris

i have made some 150mg prop that is less painful than axio's 100mg prop-as a matter of fact most of the axio prop is still in the cupboard cause im not using the stuff

now that we got that outta the way-ya if you cut it with some sterile oil-it should help null the pain

you belive bb to more painfull than ba ? well thats just pure plain bull shit man ,i have been brewing for a number of years and have tryed allsorts of mixes ,150mgs test prop and 150mgs npp combined with pure eo and 20% bb with 1-2% ba is not very painfull at all ,also the powder i use is of high quality as i have it tetsed for heavy metals and high acid contect.

let me go back to were you say -
i believe BB to be a more painful solvent then BA-im sure BBC will havbe no problem backing that statement up for me

you belive or you know this for a fact? as by the sounds of your statment your just pedding off hear say and fausle information ,have you ever heard of people saying add bb to painfull to lesses the pain ?

bb more painfull than ba -oh dear.

 

[newbie23]

you belive bb to more painfull than ba ? well thats just pure plain bull shit man ,i have been brewing for a number of years and have tryed allsorts of mixes ,150mgs test prop and 150mgs npp combined with pure eo and 20% bb with 1-2% ba is not very painfull at all ,also the powder i use is of high quality as i have it tetsed for heavy metals and high acid contect.

let me go back to were you say -
i believe BB to be a more painful solvent then BA-im sure BBC will havbe no problem backing that statement up for me

you belive or you know this for a fact? as by the sounds of your statment your just pedding off hear say and fausle information ,have you ever heard of people saying add bb to painfull to lesses the pain ?

bb more painfull than ba -oh dear.

ya bro BB more painful than BA

no i dont know this as fact-nobody does-it is impossible to prove

the reason why someone would add BB to a concentration to lessen the pain is not to cut the painful gear- but to re- solve a solution that has crashed-therfore lessening the pain-cause now it wont be crashin in your muscle

^^ a case like that would lead me to believe that they did not use enough BB to begin with

the whole BA = pain thing is a load of shit-its actually used in the medical field as an antisceptic-and yes that i can prove

i understand your 150 pro and 150 npp recipe-and yes its set up about as nice as it can be to null pain-i personally use 3% BA-but i dont care if the powder came from watson labratories-its still gonna hurt

 

[tank2005]

and were did i say it wouldent hurt. I QUOTED SOMEONE WHO SAID- TO GET IT TO HOLD IT WILL NEED ALOT OF BA ,THATS UNTRUE ,IN NO POST DID I SAY THIS LABS GEAR WONT HURT ,I JUST POINTED OUT THAT GEAR CAN BE MADE NEAR PAINLESS IF IT DONE CORRECT..[)]

 

[newbie23]

your prop npp recipe is not NEAR PAINLESS - it may be a nice mix with bearable pain -but not painless-or near painless

 

[tank2005]

ya bro BB more painful than BA

no i dont know this as fact-nobody does-it is impossible to prove

the reason why someone would add BB to a concentration to lessen the pain is not to cut the painful gear- but to re- solve a solution that has crashed-therfore lessening the pain-cause now it wont be crashin in your muscle

^^ a case like that would lead me to believe that they did not use enough BB to begin with

the whole BA = pain thing is a load of shit-its actually used in the medical field as an antisceptic-and yes that i can prove

i understand your 150 pro and 150 npp recipe-and yes its set up about as nice as it can be to null pain-i personally use 3% BA-but i dont care if the powder came from watson labratories-its still gonna hurt

LISTEN IF I DO A TEST E AT 400MGS/ML WITH 3% BA AND 5% BB WITH GRAPE SEED OIL ITS GOING TO BE PAINFULL ,NOW IF I DO IT WITH 1.5% BA 20% BB AND EO ITS GOING TO BE ALOT LESS PAINFULL ,THIS IS ALL I AM POINTING OUT ,ITS A FACT FOR SURE AS I HAVE DONE IT MANY TIME AND EXPERAMENTED WITH ALOT OF DIFFERENT BREWS TO FIND WHATS BEST ,OU ALSO SAID THAT I SAID -MY PROP NPP MIX WAS PAINLESS ?? I NEVER SAID THAT I SAID

i have made a 450mgs/ml brew containing

150mgs test prop

150mgs npp

150mgs test a

that was made with the above solvents and it was not as painfull as some test e i have used at 250mgs/ml


LETS LEAVEIT AT THAT AS I HAVE SEEN COMMENTS LIKE YOURS IN THE PAST AND IT COMES FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO 1ST HAND EXPERANCE.

 

[newbie23]

everything im saying right now is coming from first hand experience-you can take that to the bank my friend

if you look at the 2 recipes you posted in the above post its obvious why the latter is much less painful-i mean really obvious-and it has nothing at all to do with the BA

if you dont know why then you sir should not even be debating with me

 

[newbie23]

LISTEN IF I DO A TEST E AT 400MGS/ML WITH 3% BA AND 5% BB WITH GRAPE SEED OIL ITS GOING TO BE PAINFULL ,NOW IF I DO IT WITH 1.5% BA 20% BB AND EO ITS GOING TO BE ALOT LESS PAINFULL.

these are the 2 im reffering to

 

[tank2005]

everything im saying right now is coming from first hand experience-you can take that to the bank my friend

if you look at the 2 recipes you posted in the above post its obvious why the latter is much less painful-i mean really obvious-and it has nothing at all to do with the BA

if you dont know why then you sir should not even be debating with me

MELTING POINTS I ASSUME YOU THINKING ABOUT HERE ?

OK ANSWER ME THIS -WHY DO ALOT OF LABS HAVE PAINFULL TEST E AT 250MGS/ML ? YOU SEEMS TO BE SAYING THAT GEAR WITH A LOW MELTING POINT WILL BE PAINLESS WHILE THE BA IN THE MIX HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PAIN ?

WHY DO UGL,S HAVE PAINFULL TEST E ?

TOO MUCH BA ? YOU SAY NO TO THAT

CANT BE THE POWDER AS IT HAS A LOW MELTING POINT AND WILL NOT CYRISTALISE ONCE INJECTED .opcorn: