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[jackmeoff1]

Yes. 40 iu per vial. Thats about the most you’ll find in a vial since you can’t get much more than 3 ml of water to reconstitute and any less than that would lead to aggregate formation.

I recon them using 2.4 ml of bac water and they recon just fine

 

[RockyP]

I recon them using 2.4 ml of bac water and they recon just fine

You do realize that aggregates are not visible to the naked eye? Im not talking about floaters. even 3 ml for a 40 iu vial is pushing it. I cant look it up at the moment but Ghoul has posted on this with some technicals about ratio of GH to BAC and it's impact on aggregate formation.

 

[jackmeoff1]

You do realize that aggregates are not visible to the naked eye? Im not talking about floaters. even 3 ml for a 40 iu vial is pushing it. I cant look it up at the moment but Ghoul has posted on this with some technicals about ratio of GH to BAC and it's impact on aggregate formation.

Didn’t know brother. I’ll recon with 3 ml moving forward.

 

[RockyP]

Didn’t know brother. I’ll recon with 3 ml moving forward.

I mean, end of the day, the only way to know if we're using too little BAC is to meticulously track our serum GH and IGF-1 levels over time, and if they fluctuate to the downside, then pull labs to see if we have developed antibodies to the rGH (worst case scenario). If the levels trend low over time, it could suggest aggregate formation (and those aggregates become clinically inactive), so we could infer we are losing active rGH to that. You'll definitely find lots of guys who use minimal water to recon and have no issues, but pharma does tend to go with 1 iu / 0.1 ml BAC, at least that's what my omnitrope was. However, Sero's are 0.5 - 1 ml with 5 to 6 mg (15 - 18 iu), so a bit more concentrated there. But there's significant differences in terms of the excipients uses in pharma grade GH / serostim vs generics, which would also impact the mixing ratios.

 

[jackmeoff1]

I mean, end of the day, the only way to know if we're using too little BAC is to meticulously track our serum GH and IGF-1 levels over time, and if they fluctuate to the downside, then pull labs to see if we have developed antibodies to the rGH (worst case scenario). If the levels trend low over time, it could suggest aggregate formation (and those aggregates become clinically inactive), so we could infer we are losing active rGH to that. You'll definitely find lots of guys who use minimal water to recon and have no issues, but pharma does tend to go with 1 iu / 0.1 ml BAC, at least that's what my omnitrope was. However, Sero's are 0.5 - 1 ml with 5 to 6 mg (15 - 18 iu), so a bit more concentrated there. But there's significant differences in terms of the excipients uses in pharma grade GH / serostim vs generics, which would also impact the mixing ratios.

I’m getting igf bloods next week and I’ll post the results but I already added water to my current vial and plan on reconning my next vial with more water too.

Do you know how many ML fit in one of these vials? I think it was discussed in this thread but I can’t remember. Another idea - what if I recon in 3 ml, draw up 1.5 ml, move it to an old vial (previous finished vial) and then add .5 ml to each vial, effectively making it 10 IU per ML?

 

[crispybacon!]

I’m getting igf bloods next week and I’ll post the results but I already added water to my current vial and plan on reconning my next vial with more water too.

Do you know how many ML fit in one of these vials? I think it was discussed in this thread but I can’t remember. Another idea - what if I recon in 3 ml, draw up 1.5 ml, move it to an old vial (previous finished vial) and then add .5 ml to each vial, effectively making it 10 IU per ML?

Should be a 3ml vial, capable of holding just over 3ml, so you should be fine.

 

[RockyP]

I’m getting igf bloods next week and I’ll post the results but I already added water to my current vial and plan on reconning my next vial with more water too.

Do you know how many ML fit in one of these vials? I think it was discussed in this thread but I can’t remember. Another idea - what if I recon in 3 ml, draw up 1.5 ml, move it to an old vial (previous finished vial) and then add .5 ml to each vial, effectively making it 10 IU per ML?

You could def do that to make it 10 iu / ml (though idk if you'd want to transfer to a new sterile vial?). As far as max volume for these vials, you might be able to get 3.4-3.5 ml or so in there, but the problem I have when going over 3 ml is when I pull the air out after each addition of 1 ml water, after 3 ml it's damn near impossible not to get solution in the draw back.

 

[TRM4451]

Learned a lot from this convo, good thing I read before reconstituting a 40iu vial for the first time haha

 

[DeodatoFulci]

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