Kratom

[jJjburton]

Has anyone used this as a performance booster?

low doses for energy effect?

Does it cause withdrawals when used for 1-3 days straight?

can it mess up muscle growth?

A friend of mine heard when on tren, at just 3-4 grams, it will eliminate all sides of tren. Like aggression, and night sweats. But then you can kill workouts in the gym. Only using it occasionally, and low dose only 1x a day.

 

[Eman]

Ehh.. if it's a performance enhancer, it's a pretty poor one. Maybe more helpful on the recovery side of things.

I had read that it was becoming popular as a pre-workout drug but I can't really see why it would be... Maybe they just enjoyed working out with a buzz.

I don't see how it would negate the effects of tren... I also find that pretty unlikely. I can't say I've done them both together but I've done them both separately, my best answer to that is I VERY much doubt it.

You'll tend to get more energy from a higher dose actually, not a lower dose. Visa versa for using it as a sleep aid but red strains are better for that.

It can be habit forming and you can absolutely experience withdrawals, but they are pretty mild in MY experience.

 

[BigDaddyV]

I use kratom pretty often. 1-3 days will not provide any withdrawals it takes closer to a month of everyday use multiple times a day.
I’d say 5-10 grams depending on strain provides best effects.
I am on tren right now and kratom does ease the sides. It’s best for mood enhancement and energy boost IMO

 

[BigDaddyV]

I had read that it was becoming popular as a pre-workout drug but I can't really see why it would be... Maybe they just enjoyed working out with a buzz.

I use kratom pwo on occasion and it works well. It’s not like a pre workout powder but the buzz is nice for lifting. It gives me a crisp clean energy

 

[jJjburton]

I use kratom pwo on occasion and it works well. It’s not like a pre workout powder but the buzz is nice for lifting. It gives me a crisp clean energy

The boost of energy felt seems to pretty dramatic, especially when feeling a bit over trained

feels very stimulating, unless you get a crappy headache which it causes.

The aggression from tren seems to fully dissolve when its taken, and so does the tren sweats.

wouldnt be ideal at all, but it seems to get that last week or 2 of a cycle when feeling run down, managable.

 

[jJjburton]

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Ehh.. if it's a performance enhancer, it's a pretty poor one. Maybe more helpful on the recovery side of things.

I had read that it was becoming popular as a pre-workout drug but I can't really see why it would be... Maybe they just enjoyed working out with a buzz.

I don't see how it would negate the effects of tren... I also find that pretty unlikely. I can't say I've done them both together but I've done them both separately, my best answer to that is I VERY much doubt it.

You'll tend to get more energy from a higher dose actually, not a lower dose. Visa versa for using it as a sleep aid but red strains are better for that.

It can be habit forming and you can absolutely experience withdrawals, but they are pretty mild in MY experience.

Yes it is very poor, compared to some caffeine, red is definitly worse for energy. Compared to green.

its a crappy thing to use, but bronkaid lost its effect.

not using any prewo after this cycle is over.

 

[BigDaddyV]

The boost of energy felt seems to pretty dramatic, especially when feeling a bit over trained

feels very stimulating, unless you get a crappy headache which it causes.

The aggression from tren seems to fully dissolve when its taken, and so does the tren sweats.

wouldnt be ideal at all, but it seems to get that last week or 2 of a cycle when feeling run down, managable.

The head aches are usually from low quality kratom or taking too much. If you get a reputable vendor and keep your dosage under 10gs you shouldn’t experience any headaches especially if you’re hydrated. Some head shops have decent quality kratom but 80% of it isn’t great and this is because they’re looking for profit margin they’ll get the cheapest kratom they can so they make more, but if you learn good brands and look for them they can be found. Most my kratom is bought online I like SoCal kratom a lot.
white vein is my favorite if you’re going the pwo route. Very stimulating. Green and yellow is also good but green should be dosed slightly lower than the other two as it’s typically more potent. Red is my favorite for relaxation and this is the one that takes away tren sweats or overall un ease at night cause by tren. White is great when you’re feeling run down

 

[Heynow]

@BigDaddyV do these online places ship to banned states by chance?

 

[BigDaddyV]

@BigDaddyV do these online places ship to banned states by chance?

I’m sure they do. Worth trying

 

[ergomaniac]

Has anyone used this as a performance booster?

low doses for energy effect?

Does it cause withdrawals when used for 1-3 days straight?

can it mess up muscle growth?

A friend of mine heard when on tren, at just 3-4 grams, it will eliminate all sides of tren. Like aggression, and night sweats. But then you can kill workouts in the gym. Only using it occasionally, and low dose only 1x a day.

I've used it for various reasons. For me, it acts as a mild stimulant. It fills in when caffeine and ephedrine don't. I only get energetic effects, and a slight overall good feeling.
I will admit there is some withdrawal if using high doses daily. You just lose all energy, motivation, and don't want to move. After the first lockdown I couldn't find it at my local shop. So I had to check myself and how much I was using and for what.
Never had it kill a workout, just the opposite. Dont know about combating tren sides though.
Overall I find it very useful, but do exercise some caution.

 

[slyfox115]

I agree caffeine is probably better for stimulant energy, but when I take kratom it's a different kind of energy. Not really the jittery kind, but more of a feel good energy. It doesn't have the benefit of taking pain away to a certain extent so just keep that in mind if you feel a little twinge when training, it could possibly be worse when it wears off.

I have been using Kratom for 3-4 years now. It helps with a stressful life, is great pre-workout, and is a great appetite suppressant when dieting.

 

[BigDaddyV]

I agree caffeine is probably better for stimulant energy, but when I take kratom it's a different kind of energy. Not really the jittery kind, but more of a feel good energy. It doesn't have the benefit of taking pain away to a certain extent so just keep that in mind if you feel a little twinge when training, it could possibly be worse when it wears off.

I have been using Kratom for 3-4 years now. It helps with a stressful life, is great pre-workout, and is a great appetite suppressant when dieting.

Does it still suppress your appetite? If I’m hungry and drink kratom My hunger is noticeably less intense instantly but I still eat a fuck ton. The appetite suppressant aspect was gone in a few months for me and I’m not an everyday user

 

[jJjburton]

I've used it for various reasons. For me, it acts as a mild stimulant. It fills in when caffeine and ephedrine don't. I only get energetic effects, and a slight overall good feeling.
I will admit there is some withdrawal if using high doses daily. You just lose all energy, motivation, and don't want to move. After the first lockdown I couldn't find it at my local shop. So I had to check myself and how much I was using and for what.
Never had it kill a workout, just the opposite. Dont know about combating tren sides though.
Overall I find it very useful, but do exercise some caution.

Thats exactly what is worrisome, to use it for a small boost for a tiny bit 1-3 maybe 4 days. Then go the opposite way, to no energy. Which would be fine for a day. But wouldnt want any longer. I only have 2 more days where the extra boost would really help, then i wont need any.

I am being cautious due to past history, and substances.

 

[jJjburton]

I agree caffeine is probably better for stimulant energy, but when I take kratom it's a different kind of energy. Not really the jittery kind, but more of a feel good energy. It doesn't have the benefit of taking pain away to a certain extent so just keep that in mind if you feel a little twinge when training, it could possibly be worse when it wears off.

I have been using Kratom for 3-4 years now. It helps with a stressful life, is great pre-workout, and is a great appetite suppressant when dieting.

3-4 years straight? Are you afraid of withdrawals?

when withdrawing for 10+ days, it litterally has ruined all the hard work i put into my workouts.

so that terrifies me, to use something to get a boost, but losing it all when ceasing use.

 

[slyfox115]

Does it still suppress your appetite? If I’m hungry and drink kratom My hunger is noticeably less intense instantly but I still eat a fuck ton. The appetite suppressant aspect was gone in a few months for me and I’m not an everyday user

As far as appetite suppression I would say it still takes away the hunger pangs. I guess it takes that away and makes me focus on other things or want to do the required cardio so it’s win win.

 

[slyfox115]

3-4 years straight? Are you afraid of withdrawals?

when withdrawing for 10+ days, it litterally has ruined all the hard work i put into my workouts.

so that terrifies me, to use something to get a boost, but losing it all when ceasing use.

It have heard horror stories for sure but I’ve also tapered slowly to 0 and noticed minimal symptoms, only that I didn’t feel as good as I did while using kratom. My daily doses aren’t super high either (10-20g) but I have heard of people using 50 grams and day then stopping cold Turkey and having some really horrible withdrawals.

Life with kids, a career, and training is really stressful and I am a better person to everyone with Kratom. It’s sort of like AAS, you weigh the positives and negatives and make your choise

I am a responsible user just like with AAS and the past 3 years bloodwork shows no issues.
When life settles down I am confident I can just taper slowly again and be done with it.

 

[jJjburton]

Does it still suppress your appetite? If I’m hungry and drink kratom My hunger is noticeably less intense instantly but I still eat a fuck ton. The appetite suppressant aspect was gone in a few months for me and I’m not an everyday user

It seems to make me eat more. It gives a great energy boost, mentally, where i can review and study for my certifications and retain information quite well.
Kind of like adderall, but without the crazy sex drive i get from adderall, where i become way to hypersexual, which then i wont do work anymore and watch porn. Thus does me no good.

this is scary because when something is used to boost performance it can have some drawbacks.

 

[CompoundLifts31]

Drop your dosage down slightly each day and you will be fine. They'll be some lethargy, but if you drop down to like 2 - 1 or 2 gram dosages in a day, it won't be too bad. (Coming from someone who was up to at least 20g per day split up throughout the day)

 

[CompoundLifts31]

It seems to make me eat more. It gives a great energy boost, mentally, where i can review and study for my certifications and retain information quite well.
Kind of like adderall, but without the crazy sex drive i get from adderall, where i become way to hypersexual, which then i wont do work anymore and watch porn. Thus does me no good.

this is scary because when something is used to boost performance it can have some drawbacks.

I am the same way.

Can't do em. There is no productiveness while on Addys lol

 

[jJjburton]

Drop your dosage down slightly each day and you will be fine. They'll be some lethargy, but if you drop down to like 2 - 1 or 2 gram dosages in a day, it won't be too bad. (Coming from someone who was up to at least 20g per day split up throughout the day)

So if taking 10 g for 4 days, should i still do like a 3 g taper? I am trying for minimal crappiness. If thats possible.


I know this might sound ridiculous since its such a short period of time. Being only 5 days total. But i have experience where doing 4 days of something lead to bad withdrawals.