JY pharma | community testing

Sigma seems to be providing shit tons of testing in their telegram. Not sure why JY doesn't do the same and we all have to do it for them.
 
I just want to see if I'm reading this correct... you guys are not gonna openly post the test results to the community? Only people that chip in a stipulated amount will have the results revealed to them??
 
I just want to see if I'm reading this correct... you guys are not gonna openly post the test results to the community? Only people that chip in a stipulated amount will have the results revealed to them??
No, the test results will be posted, just with a delay unless the results are harmful, in that case it will be immediately posted.

So let's say DNP instead of 200mg it's 300/409mg or it's bunk or the test P is instead somethingelse or the primo is test P stuff like that, it will be posted..

If it's just slightly overdosed or underdosed yeah it will be posted later on. Down the road not immediately.

I think this is fair for everyone involved.
I mean the entry "fee" it is not like hundreds of dollars.
 
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Basically you guys used an open community forum to organize and execute a private testing group. You guys should have organized a private platform. My opinion doesn't mean much. I di not have any JY products and not sure I ever will.. maybe. I like being a part of things like this in the community but once you do it like that it becomes less about the community and more about a private few. Like I said I have no jy products but I will pledge 25% of the cost only if you guys change it to where the community get the immediate results.. i.mean that's what we are here for is community... right?
 
Basically you guys used an open community forum to organize and execute a private testing group. You guys should have organized a private platform. My opinion doesn't mean much. I di not have any JY products and not sure I ever will.. maybe. I like being a part of things like this in the community but once you do it like that it becomes less about the community and more about a private few. Like I said I have no jy products but I will pledge 25% of the cost only if you guys change it to where the community get the immediate results.. i.mean that's what we are here for is community... right?

I don't agree and you know me and you and plenty of other users have released a lot of tests just because.

One of the biggest if not the biggest peptides testing communities have tried it all and there is no way you have ppl donating and helping out unless you create an incentive to it.

This is not really a community, this is an open forum where anyone can register and just post, ppl surf here for different various reasons and that's ok... But you can call it a real community in the sense I figure one is.

Yeah there is maybe a more tight group of ppl that would have no issue in helping eachother even so we are strangers to eachother. Shit you know I have no issue in pulling all the strings I can for a "friend of this community".

But let's not be naive, if you keep the buffet free for everyone first time you have 10% donating the next round it's 5% the one after is 3% and on it goes. I have seen it first hand.

I mean there are even ppl saying testing is useless and they never had a problem because feelings it's all they need xD

You following me?
We ain't using anything, we are giving ppl the possibilities to have shit they care tested for just a small fees.

While we use our own free time to organize everything in the background.

I believe we are doing a service to the so called "community" and not using it for our own gain (it does benefit us too, mind you I'm not denying it)
 
I don't agree and you know me and you and plenty of other users have released a lot of tests just because.

One of the biggest if not the biggest peptides testing communities have tried it all and there is no way you have ppl donating and helping out unless you create an incentive to it.

This is not really a community, this is an open forum where anyone can register and just post, ppl surf here for different various reasons and that's ok... But you can call it a real community in the sense I figure one is.

Yeah there is maybe a more tight group of ppl that would have no issue in helping eachother even so we are strangers to eachother. Shit you know I have no issue in pulling all the strings I can for a "friend of this community".

But let's not be naive, if you keep the buffet free for everyone first time you have 10% donating the next round it's 5% the one after is 3% and on it goes. I have seen it first hand.

I mean there are even ppl saying testing is useless and they never had a problem because feelings it's all they need xD

You following me?
We ain't using anything, we are giving ppl the possibilities to have shit they care tested for just a small fees.

While we use our own free time to organize everything in the background.

I believe we are doing a service to the so called "community" and not using it for our own gain (it does benefit us too, mind you I'm not denying it)
I meant no disrespect... I luv all you guys that have put the work in on this.. It was just my though...
Hugs
DH
 
Basically you guys used an open community forum to organize and execute a private testing group. You guys should have organized a private platform. My opinion doesn't mean much. I di not have any JY products and not sure I ever will.. maybe. I like being a part of things like this in the community but once you do it like that it becomes less about the community and more about a private few. Like I said I have no jy products but I will pledge 25% of the cost only if you guys change it to where the community get the immediate results.. i.mean that's what we are here for is community... right?
I’m 100% ok with it being posted regardless if people help or not. Who’s to say it’s the same batch or not? Lot of people rely solely on vendor testing which is fine. It’s honestly not much difference. I personally don’t have any of the products listed being tested BUT I think it’s a good thing overall. We (as meso) continue to do this randomly to the best of our ability it’ll keep all vendors future and current more on their toes. So many of us years ago never had testing like it is now. How many people bought from the local gym bro? Did that have testing? No dude was just big and you said ok here’s $50 cool thanks.

I’d like to think others would help out and I encourage more too. It’ll take time to “trust”. I understand not wanting to send a random person crypto right off the bat but I think a few people listed here in the thread have shown a lot of benefit to meso and could be worth the “gamble”. It’s honestly no different than back in the day sending cash in the mail and hoping…..maybe one day you’ll get a pack. I spend enough money on other dumb nonsense what’s $30 to help contribute to testing on products that’s are sold here from vendors here and wanting to be established here and other boards.

That’s all just my opinion.
 
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XRP would be a nice addition. I don't think there is a fee when you transfer. If there is, it is very low.
 
I meant no disrespect... I luv all you guys that have put the work in on this.. It was just my though...
Hugs
DH
Hey Dirt, I really appreciate how you share your opinion in a respectful manner - thanks for that.

I would like to point out that when private testing groups get formed and operate off forum, a lot of the time, members here will never see the light of day of those tests. And as more private testing groups get formed, members are funneled off of meso and into those private groups more frequently.

This leaves the number of willing people on meso that are going to organize and start testing a lot lower as a proportion compared to those in private testing groups.

I thought it would be nice since I had a ton of the JY lineup to reach out to members of the community who maybe had a similar or were interested in a similar product set to see if they wanted to crowd source the funding of testing.

Obviously I benefit from this, but this does offer a lot of benefit to folks who wouldn't have otherwise prepared samples, shipped to jano, etc, gone through the hassle. But if all they have to do is send BTC to an address and that whole part gets taken care of? And then they get immediate access to ~11 product tests which they were able to dictate where their contribution went towards?

Idk. It feels like a good exchange of a service and valued offer to members who would like to participate.

Unfortunately at the end of the day, I do think we will have waning participation with each subsequent test attempt unless we incentivize participation.

Ideally, I would like to continue to do this publicly on Meso, leveraging a combination of private group participants, members here, new members, and even lurkers here who want to throw coin via a telegram DM since they wouldn't otherwise be able to immediately participate.

I may even make an off platform discussion room, telegram, whatever, where we are able to coordinate our efforts and then come to the forum with a compelling testing plan for other vendor(s) that severely lack product testing.

Anyhow, apologies for the long winded post. I hear you, and appreciate where you're coming from, but it is my opinion we'll end up doing more good overall if we incentivize participation rather than expecting participation, despite the lag time in releasing tests to the rest of the forum and internet.
 
I would definitely be interested in contributing to future testing regularly. Sharing the costs helps those of use who can't afford the full blown tests personally (or don't want the hassle of arranging it, lol), and acts like a true impartial sift for sources. It also encourages more testing as a whole, as even those who can afford it can then leverage the funds further to include more items etc. Everybody gets to share some of the cost of doing so too, and other members will see it but with partial delay unless p!ss poor/dangerous results come back. Best of all worlds.
 
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I would definitely be interested in contributing to future testing regularly. Sharing the costs helps those of use who can't afford the full blown tests personally, and acts like a true impartial sift for sources. It also encourages more testing as a whole, as even those who can afford it can then leverage the funds further to include more items etc. Everybody gets to share the cost of doing so too, and other members will see it but with partial delay unless p!ss poor/dangerous results come back. Best of all worlds.
When I have a couple of minutes, I'll start collecting names for future tests. I will automatically add those who contributed to the future list of "reach out" / coordination efforts so we can intelligently order a lineup and also so the rest of us are aware of what's going on to strategize around that.
 
Hey Dirt, I really appreciate how you share your opinion in a respectful manner - thanks for that.

I would like to point out that when private testing groups get formed and operate off forum, a lot of the time, members here will never see the light of day of those tests. And as more private testing groups get formed, members are funneled off of meso and into those private groups more frequently.

This leaves the number of willing people on meso that are going to organize and start testing a lot lower as a proportion compared to those in private testing groups.

I thought it would be nice since I had a ton of the JY lineup to reach out to members of the community who maybe had a similar or were interested in a similar product set to see if they wanted to crowd source the funding of testing.

Obviously I benefit from this, but this does offer a lot of benefit to folks who wouldn't have otherwise prepared samples, shipped to jano, etc, gone through the hassle. But if all they have to do is send BTC to an address and that whole part gets taken care of? And then they get immediate access to ~11 product tests which they were able to dictate where their contribution went towards?

Idk. It feels like a good exchange of a service and valued offer to members who would like to participate.

Unfortunately at the end of the day, I do think we will have waning participation with each subsequent test attempt unless we incentivize participation.

Ideally, I would like to continue to do this publicly on Meso, leveraging a combination of private group participants, members here, new members, and even lurkers here who want to throw coin via a telegram DM since they wouldn't otherwise be able to immediately participate.

I may even make an off platform discussion room, telegram, whatever, where we are able to coordinate our efforts and then come to the forum with a compelling testing plan for other vendor(s) that severely lack product testing.

Anyhow, apologies for the long winded post. I hear you, and appreciate where you're coming from, but it is my opinion we'll end up doing more good overall if we incentivize participation rather than expecting participation, despite the lag time in releasing tests to the rest of the forum and internet.
I get it... there are a bunch of cocksuckers floating around here that will always take and never give.. it was just my heart at the time. I myself will always reserve a seat at the cool kids table.... even though i like to eat alone!!
Peace!
DH
 
I've made an order for DNP from PPL (shock, horror). If they arrive, maybe they could be one of the items in the next set of products tested? I thought the source was dead, but there have been some good Jano tests of raws purchased from them recently. If their DNP is legit it might be another option in what seems to be a dwindling market, albeit an expensive one. Thought I'd risk it. Bought 3x 40, so enough tabs.
 
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