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I have IBS that is mostly triggered by stress; certain foods make it MUCH worse when it is triggered. I don't normally have issues with bread (or any food, really)
W11D05, 25/06/2025
Bodyweight at 82.1Kg
Woke up a bit a bit early today. I had relatively good sleep, and my finger seems to be doing slightly better.
Breakfast
With blueberries
Warm n' delicious.
Pre
10iu Humalog.
Training
Pull B
I had a great workout today; tennis elbow getting better, pumps still pretty darn good, etc.
Wide grip lade pulldown x2
Hammer strength lat row x2
Seated cable row x2
Single arm dumbbell curls x3
Single arm cable curls x3
SUPERSET
Revers peck dec x6
Standing cable shrugs x6
Crunches x2
30 minutes Z2.
Post
8iu Humalog. Kellogg's is actually much fluffier than store-brand.
No sammiches tonight (trying to fix my gas issue)
Chicken breast w/ ketchup, a bowl of CoR w/ strawberries, and a cup of Greek yogurt w/ cherries
Also, I wanted to have this so bad but I've been good (these eggs are heavenly).
Gas update
MUCH better without the bread, which is surprising because I had 0 issues with this just a week ago. I have IBS so it's mostly triggered by stress but when it is triggered certain foods make it so much worse.
I ordered some peppermint oil caps to use alongside Gas X. I still had gas even with this meal, but much better than with the bread; I'll be dropping all regular bread tomorrow (jam w/ rice cakes or sourdough).
Bodyweight at 82.1Kg
Woke up a bit a bit early today. I had relatively good sleep, and my finger seems to be doing slightly better.
Breakfast
With blueberries
Warm n' delicious.
Pre
10iu Humalog.
Training
Pull B
I had a great workout today; tennis elbow getting better, pumps still pretty darn good, etc.
Wide grip lade pulldown x2
Hammer strength lat row x2
Seated cable row x2
Single arm dumbbell curls x3
Single arm cable curls x3
SUPERSET
Revers peck dec x6
Standing cable shrugs x6
Crunches x2
30 minutes Z2.
Post
8iu Humalog. Kellogg's is actually much fluffier than store-brand.
No sammiches tonight (trying to fix my gas issue)
Chicken breast w/ ketchup, a bowl of CoR w/ strawberries, and a cup of Greek yogurt w/ cherries
Also, I wanted to have this so bad but I've been good (these eggs are heavenly).
Gas update
MUCH better without the bread, which is surprising because I had 0 issues with this just a week ago. I have IBS so it's mostly triggered by stress but when it is triggered certain foods make it so much worse.
I ordered some peppermint oil caps to use alongside Gas X. I still had gas even with this meal, but much better than with the bread; I'll be dropping all regular bread tomorrow (jam w/ rice cakes or sourdough).
W11D06, 26/06/2025
Bodyweight at 82.0Kg
CAN YOU GUYS BELIEVE WEEK 12 STARTS TOMORROW?
Woke up pretty hungry today which is really nice at this stage of my growth phase.
UPDATE ON LOST PACKAGE FROM 2 MONTHS AGO
It's a very long story and I'm too tired to type, but I actually got my package back today. I almost can't believe it, lol.
Breakfast
Wasn't feeling like having berries this morning. Also, no bread today.
Pre
10iu Humalog.
Training
Legs B
Another great leg session. NO MORE T SHIRTS FROM HERE ON.
Leg press x4 (pretty much addicted to doing these with bands now)
Leg extension x2
Lying leg curl x3
Seated leg curl x3
SUPERSET
Standing calf raises x6
Abductor machine x6
Leg raises x2
30 minutes Z2.
Post
8iu Humalog.
Lats meal
NO GAS. It's very likely that the white bread I had early in the day cause some kind of cumulative effect that typically manifests after this meal; I'll be trying this again on Sunday (maybe with sour dough).
Reduced dose of BPC-157 from 5mg to 3mg. I'll probably be running it from another week and then take a 2-3 week break.
Bodyweight at 82.0Kg
CAN YOU GUYS BELIEVE WEEK 12 STARTS TOMORROW?
Woke up pretty hungry today which is really nice at this stage of my growth phase.
UPDATE ON LOST PACKAGE FROM 2 MONTHS AGO
It's a very long story and I'm too tired to type, but I actually got my package back today. I almost can't believe it, lol.
Breakfast
Wasn't feeling like having berries this morning. Also, no bread today.
Pre
10iu Humalog.
Training
Legs B
Another great leg session. NO MORE T SHIRTS FROM HERE ON.
Leg press x4 (pretty much addicted to doing these with bands now)
Leg extension x2
Lying leg curl x3
Seated leg curl x3
SUPERSET
Standing calf raises x6
Abductor machine x6
Leg raises x2
30 minutes Z2.
Post
8iu Humalog.
Lats meal
NO GAS. It's very likely that the white bread I had early in the day cause some kind of cumulative effect that typically manifests after this meal; I'll be trying this again on Sunday (maybe with sour dough).
Reduced dose of BPC-157 from 5mg to 3mg. I'll probably be running it from another week and then take a 2-3 week break.
W12D01, 28/06/2025
Bodyweight at 81.90Kg
CAN YOU GUYS GUESS WHICH WEEK IT IS? IT'S THE FINAL WEEK OF PART ONE OF OUR PROGRESS PHASE
Eats from Friday
Fish with the family
Heavenly. Followed by something sweet (I overindulged a bit)…
Had two of this w/ fries, and some more sweets
Today
I had to wake up pretty early to take my car to the shop (I need a new hub + break pads).
Got home starving so I had those very nice pancakes that I made yesterday
Protein: 60g
Carbs: 150g
Fat: <5g
Was pretty exhausted at that point so I took a two hour nap.
Pre
Protein: 57g
Carbs: 175g
Fat: <5g
The usual; 10iu Humalog.
Training
Push A
Another great push session.
Hammer strength incline press x2
Hammer strength flat press x2
Standing pec deck x2
SUPERSET
Machine standing laterals x6
Seated dumbbell press x6
Cable tricep pushdowns x3
Cable overhead tricep pushdowns x3
Machine crunches x2
30 minutes Z2.
Post
8iu Humalog.
Protein: 57g
Carbs: 180g
Fat: <5g
Starting to feel that Kellogg's is easier on my stomach despite the added iron.
Last meal
Chicken, CoR, and yogurt
Protein: 75g
Carbs: 105g
Fat: <5g
Macros for the day
Calories: ~3900
Protein: 265g
Carbs: 660g
Fats: < 15g
I'm shaving on Thursday for progress pictures.
Bodyweight at 81.90Kg
CAN YOU GUYS GUESS WHICH WEEK IT IS? IT'S THE FINAL WEEK OF PART ONE OF OUR PROGRESS PHASE
Eats from Friday
Fish with the family
Heavenly. Followed by something sweet (I overindulged a bit)…
Had two of this w/ fries, and some more sweets
Today
I had to wake up pretty early to take my car to the shop (I need a new hub + break pads).
Got home starving so I had those very nice pancakes that I made yesterday
Protein: 60g
Carbs: 150g
Fat: <5g
Was pretty exhausted at that point so I took a two hour nap.
Pre
Protein: 57g
Carbs: 175g
Fat: <5g
The usual; 10iu Humalog.
Training
Push A
Another great push session.
Hammer strength incline press x2
Hammer strength flat press x2
Standing pec deck x2
SUPERSET
Machine standing laterals x6
Seated dumbbell press x6
Cable tricep pushdowns x3
Cable overhead tricep pushdowns x3
Machine crunches x2
30 minutes Z2.
Post
8iu Humalog.
Protein: 57g
Carbs: 180g
Fat: <5g
Starting to feel that Kellogg's is easier on my stomach despite the added iron.
Last meal
Chicken, CoR, and yogurt
Protein: 75g
Carbs: 105g
Fat: <5g
Macros for the day
Calories: ~3900
Protein: 265g
Carbs: 660g
Fats: < 15g
I'm shaving on Thursday for progress pictures.
W12D03, 30/06/2025
Bodyweight UNKNOWN, sister stole my scale
THREE MORE DAYS UNTIL WE'RE DONE WITH PART ONE
Clips from yesterday's session
Panckes
Pull A (random clips)
Today
Woke up a bit too late today since I was planning to train after my doctor's appointment.
Breakfast
Appointment with the surgeon
Surgeon agreed to perform the operation and we did some testing
- Hernia size is < 1cm
- He thinks it'll have to be done sooner or later, better sooner
- He said 2 years without lifting (lol), but I brushed this off as typical doctor nonsense
- He wants to add mesh to keep it from happening again since I'm a lifter and I'm likely to get bigger/stronger in the future
We set the date to November like I wanted (this is covered by the government), but then came the big disagreement; he wants to do an open wound instead of doing laparoscopic surgery, which I absolutely do not want.
I will insist on having it done laparoscopic in November, but if he insists on an open wound (he said the scar will be visible above my belly button and it's going to be 2+ inches, eff off, lol) I'll have to do this somewhere else out of pocket. His reasoning for going open wound is literally because "the wound is too small doing it that way is too much work for such a tiny area". In other words; he's lazy.
Pre
10iu Humalog.
Training
Legs A
Amazing workout.
Lines fading, but we're cutting in just 4 days boys'. Also, I hate how my upper body deflates hard whenever I do legs, lol.
Banded leg press x4
Leg extension x2
Lying leg curl x3
Seated leg curl x3
SUPERSET
Standing calf raises x6
Abductor machine x6
Machine crunches x2 (I'll be dropping leg raises completely until I do/recover from my hernia surgery)
30 minutes Z2.
Post
8iu Humalog.
Chicken sandwiches are back
I decided to do these with potato buns (higher in fat, about 6g per 2 buns, but we're only 4 days away from our cut so meh)
NO GAS, probably because I started taking those peppermint oil gels (NOW brand) before this meal. Great stuff.
Can I be honest with you guys? I'm actually terrified of cutting; I'm afraid I'll look tiny once I cut down on carbs, and I hate that feeling.
Very interesting video I watched earlier
View: https://youtu.be/7SITjXMtR8E?si=uoRj4DpJyhaZ06k5
TLDR; micro dose Humalog before meals to bring BG down to low 80s, acquire massive size and get lean
Bodyweight UNKNOWN, sister stole my scale
THREE MORE DAYS UNTIL WE'RE DONE WITH PART ONE
Clips from yesterday's session
Panckes
Pull A (random clips)
Today
Woke up a bit too late today since I was planning to train after my doctor's appointment.
Breakfast
Appointment with the surgeon
Surgeon agreed to perform the operation and we did some testing
- Hernia size is < 1cm
- He thinks it'll have to be done sooner or later, better sooner
- He said 2 years without lifting (lol), but I brushed this off as typical doctor nonsense
- He wants to add mesh to keep it from happening again since I'm a lifter and I'm likely to get bigger/stronger in the future
We set the date to November like I wanted (this is covered by the government), but then came the big disagreement; he wants to do an open wound instead of doing laparoscopic surgery, which I absolutely do not want.
I will insist on having it done laparoscopic in November, but if he insists on an open wound (he said the scar will be visible above my belly button and it's going to be 2+ inches, eff off, lol) I'll have to do this somewhere else out of pocket. His reasoning for going open wound is literally because "the wound is too small doing it that way is too much work for such a tiny area". In other words; he's lazy.
Pre
10iu Humalog.
Training
Legs A
Amazing workout.
Lines fading, but we're cutting in just 4 days boys'. Also, I hate how my upper body deflates hard whenever I do legs, lol.
Banded leg press x4
Leg extension x2
Lying leg curl x3
Seated leg curl x3
SUPERSET
Standing calf raises x6
Abductor machine x6
Machine crunches x2 (I'll be dropping leg raises completely until I do/recover from my hernia surgery)
30 minutes Z2.
Post
8iu Humalog.
Chicken sandwiches are back
I decided to do these with potato buns (higher in fat, about 6g per 2 buns, but we're only 4 days away from our cut so meh)
NO GAS, probably because I started taking those peppermint oil gels (NOW brand) before this meal. Great stuff.
Can I be honest with you guys? I'm actually terrified of cutting; I'm afraid I'll look tiny once I cut down on carbs, and I hate that feeling.
Very interesting video I watched earlier
View: https://youtu.be/7SITjXMtR8E?si=uoRj4DpJyhaZ06k5
TLDR; micro dose Humalog before meals to bring BG down to low 80s, acquire massive size and get lean
W12D06, 03/07/2025
Bodyweight 82.40kg
Today marks the end of phase 1 of our progress phase! CAN YOU GUYS BELIEVE IT’S BEEN 3 MONTHS ALREADY? Woah.
I’ll be posting progress pics and a reflection on part 1 either tomorrow or the day after.
Various clips from days 4 & 5
Had this post workout yesterday; DELICIOUS, but a bit too sweet.
Today
I’ve been struggling with sleep since I came here due to my mattress being a bit different; I’d wake up every two hours with at least 1 completely numb hand that I’d have to get up and shake off before going back to sleep.
This wasn’t a problem before but it is now for some reason; I’m probably holding extra fluid, too.
Reduced HGH to 8ius for now; I’ll be working my way up again at 0.5 unit per week.
I’m also still struggling with extreme gas every night regardless of food choices. It’s going to be a tough 4 weeks (that’s when I go back home).
Breakfast
These pancakes are tasting much better than I remember, I wonder why.. been putting two tsp (10g) of crème caramel powder in the mix.
Pre
The usual
10iu Humalog.
Training
Legs B
I tweaked something in my right hip flexor area so I wasn’t feeling very confident going in today, but it ended up being “alright”. I was pretty exhausted, though.
Banded leg press x4
Leg extension x2
Lying leg curl x3
Seated leg curl x3
SUPERSET
Standing calf raises x6
Abductor machine x6
No abs
30 minutes Z2.
Post
Uncle came over to visit so we made pizza and had seasoned milk with sweet husk.
Absolutely delicious.
Smells SO good, with cardamom, ginger and saffron.
Had 2 scoops isolate with this, no Humalog.
Last meal
Decided to go light since I went over earlier; just some chicken w/ Greek yogurt.
Bodyweight 82.40kg
Today marks the end of phase 1 of our progress phase! CAN YOU GUYS BELIEVE IT’S BEEN 3 MONTHS ALREADY? Woah.
I’ll be posting progress pics and a reflection on part 1 either tomorrow or the day after.
Various clips from days 4 & 5
Had this post workout yesterday; DELICIOUS, but a bit too sweet.
Today
I’ve been struggling with sleep since I came here due to my mattress being a bit different; I’d wake up every two hours with at least 1 completely numb hand that I’d have to get up and shake off before going back to sleep.
This wasn’t a problem before but it is now for some reason; I’m probably holding extra fluid, too.
Reduced HGH to 8ius for now; I’ll be working my way up again at 0.5 unit per week.
I’m also still struggling with extreme gas every night regardless of food choices. It’s going to be a tough 4 weeks (that’s when I go back home).
Breakfast
These pancakes are tasting much better than I remember, I wonder why.. been putting two tsp (10g) of crème caramel powder in the mix.
Pre
The usual
10iu Humalog.
Training
Legs B
I tweaked something in my right hip flexor area so I wasn’t feeling very confident going in today, but it ended up being “alright”. I was pretty exhausted, though.
Banded leg press x4
Leg extension x2
Lying leg curl x3
Seated leg curl x3
SUPERSET
Standing calf raises x6
Abductor machine x6
No abs
30 minutes Z2.
Post
Uncle came over to visit so we made pizza and had seasoned milk with sweet husk.
Absolutely delicious.
Smells SO good, with cardamom, ginger and saffron.
Had 2 scoops isolate with this, no Humalog.
Last meal
Decided to go light since I went over earlier; just some chicken w/ Greek yogurt.
Phase 1 summary
Here we are guys, this is officially the end of phase 1 of our progress phase! I’ll try to write this reflection in bullet points so it’s much easier to follow for anyone interested.
Summary of phase 1 protocols
Gear
- Testosterone cypionate 750mg/wk
- HGH 10iu/day, all in the morning mostly IM (8mm needle to the thigh)
- 10iu Humalog before training, 8iu after (mostly)
Diet
- Maintained a relatively small surplus throughout (under 500 calories)
- Protein was around 250-270g for the most part
- Carbs were at 650g towards the end of this phase
- Fats were very low under 15g/day
Training
- Started with an upper/lower > OFF > upper/lower > OFF > OFF then moved to PPL x2 > OFF
Meds/peptides
- Used Retatrutide at 4mg/wk split over 3 doses
- Started Ivabradine at 5mg (twice a day) and worked up to 7.5mg.
- Was on 5mg Rosuvastatin and 10mg Ezetimibe the entire time
Final progress photos (for P1)
- Not the best lighting; lots of details are lost, especially in my back. Also makes me look like a DYEL
- I think I got overall thicker/denser, particularly in my upper body
- Still somewhat lean; a great place to start a 4 week mini cut/prepare for P2
- I need to actually learn how to pose so I can standardize my poses for progress pictures
Constructive criticism is most welcome.
Weight data from P1 (weeks 1 through 12)
- it appears that past the first couple of weeks were I gained around 3/4 kgs (this is coming from a fully carbs up state and already being on 500mg of test and 8ius of hgh) I maintained a steady weight increase of 0.3 kg/wk
- Not accounting for the initial weight jump, I probably gained around 4/5kgs of weight; I reckon 2.5/3kg of muscle, maybe
- Most of the fat I gained I probably gained from my off days where I maintained a large surplus without cardio or training, which makes me think that perhaps I was barely a couple of hundred calories over maint for the rest of the week (on training days)
Random thoughts/reflections on various things elements of P1
- Eating on Reta was VERY hard at first, but it got MUCH easier after 8 weeks
- Oatmeal after training was tough, I had to switch to plain cereal (corn flakes) for easy digestion. I can do oats for breakfast/meal 1 just fine
- it’s almost crazy what one can do on so little anabolics
- if I didn’t have to fix my hernia or stay at my parents for a bit I would’ve probably pushed a bit longer
- Ivabradine is AMAZING; never touching nebivolol again
- Statins don’t have to be scary; they could work for you, try them (if you needed)
- Supplements don’t do much for lipids
- You may not know it yet, but you NEED an auto injector peptide pen
- Arimidex works much better if you take it daily; I have my pills split into halves and quarters
- Dihydroberberine is great if you have issues with regular berberine
- You don’t realize how much insulin helps with recovery until you skip it just once; even if it didn’t help build muscle, I’d take it for the recovery aspect alone, it’s unparalleled
- Humalog puts a lot of people into a food comma post workout, so you may need to stick to pre only if you need to work (or do anything) after
- I had three of my buddies try insulin the past few months, and not a single one of them could tolerate 10g/iu; they were all around 15-20g/iu
- A1C isn’t everything when it comes to insulin resistance
- I tolerate Dutasteride MUCH better than Finasteride which is funny. I’ve been on Fin for many years prior
Plan for P2
- P2 starts immediately after my mini cut
- Test will be increased to 1000mg/wk
- HGH back at 10iu/day
- No change to the insulin protocol
- Calories will start where I left off; around 3800
- I will be trying a higher fat approach for P2, particularly in meals 1 and 4; I’ll be having eggs and other fats in those two meals, but will keep it under 50g/day, mainly for sanity. Pre and post will remain at either zero or have minimal fats
I'l getting pretty tired, so I'll just leave you guys with some eats from Friday and go to bed
Lunch with the family, fish
Burgers
Finished the night with some spicy fetta and tea
Here we are guys, this is officially the end of phase 1 of our progress phase! I’ll try to write this reflection in bullet points so it’s much easier to follow for anyone interested.
Summary of phase 1 protocols
Gear
- Testosterone cypionate 750mg/wk
- HGH 10iu/day, all in the morning mostly IM (8mm needle to the thigh)
- 10iu Humalog before training, 8iu after (mostly)
Diet
- Maintained a relatively small surplus throughout (under 500 calories)
- Protein was around 250-270g for the most part
- Carbs were at 650g towards the end of this phase
- Fats were very low under 15g/day
Training
- Started with an upper/lower > OFF > upper/lower > OFF > OFF then moved to PPL x2 > OFF
Meds/peptides
- Used Retatrutide at 4mg/wk split over 3 doses
- Started Ivabradine at 5mg (twice a day) and worked up to 7.5mg.
- Was on 5mg Rosuvastatin and 10mg Ezetimibe the entire time
Final progress photos (for P1)
- Not the best lighting; lots of details are lost, especially in my back. Also makes me look like a DYEL
- I think I got overall thicker/denser, particularly in my upper body
- Still somewhat lean; a great place to start a 4 week mini cut/prepare for P2
- I need to actually learn how to pose so I can standardize my poses for progress pictures
Constructive criticism is most welcome.
Weight data from P1 (weeks 1 through 12)
- it appears that past the first couple of weeks were I gained around 3/4 kgs (this is coming from a fully carbs up state and already being on 500mg of test and 8ius of hgh) I maintained a steady weight increase of 0.3 kg/wk
- Not accounting for the initial weight jump, I probably gained around 4/5kgs of weight; I reckon 2.5/3kg of muscle, maybe
- Most of the fat I gained I probably gained from my off days where I maintained a large surplus without cardio or training, which makes me think that perhaps I was barely a couple of hundred calories over maint for the rest of the week (on training days)
Random thoughts/reflections on various things elements of P1
- Eating on Reta was VERY hard at first, but it got MUCH easier after 8 weeks
- Oatmeal after training was tough, I had to switch to plain cereal (corn flakes) for easy digestion. I can do oats for breakfast/meal 1 just fine
- it’s almost crazy what one can do on so little anabolics
- if I didn’t have to fix my hernia or stay at my parents for a bit I would’ve probably pushed a bit longer
- Ivabradine is AMAZING; never touching nebivolol again
- Statins don’t have to be scary; they could work for you, try them (if you needed)
- Supplements don’t do much for lipids
- You may not know it yet, but you NEED an auto injector peptide pen
- Arimidex works much better if you take it daily; I have my pills split into halves and quarters
- Dihydroberberine is great if you have issues with regular berberine
- You don’t realize how much insulin helps with recovery until you skip it just once; even if it didn’t help build muscle, I’d take it for the recovery aspect alone, it’s unparalleled
- Humalog puts a lot of people into a food comma post workout, so you may need to stick to pre only if you need to work (or do anything) after
- I had three of my buddies try insulin the past few months, and not a single one of them could tolerate 10g/iu; they were all around 15-20g/iu
- A1C isn’t everything when it comes to insulin resistance
- I tolerate Dutasteride MUCH better than Finasteride which is funny. I’ve been on Fin for many years prior
Plan for P2
- P2 starts immediately after my mini cut
- Test will be increased to 1000mg/wk
- HGH back at 10iu/day
- No change to the insulin protocol
- Calories will start where I left off; around 3800
- I will be trying a higher fat approach for P2, particularly in meals 1 and 4; I’ll be having eggs and other fats in those two meals, but will keep it under 50g/day, mainly for sanity. Pre and post will remain at either zero or have minimal fats
I'l getting pretty tired, so I'll just leave you guys with some eats from Friday and go to bed
Lunch with the family, fish
Burgers
Finished the night with some spicy fetta and tea
Eddie.
Member
Great progress man! It's gonna be fun when you end the bulk and put before/after pics.
Eating on reta is still very hard for me at 6mg+. I'm hungry as usual but i'm getting full easy and then i need hours for my stomach to settle. I find it hard to digest even beef patties with rice. Only plain chicken n rice sits well currently.
Oatmeal around training was my go to for a long time, now with reta i'm having 100gr oats/60gr whey/20gr honey and 120gr banana 90' before training and i'm bloated during training. I've found that oats and banana is a bad mix for me, i can go with higher oats and no banana and i'm ok..this happens mostly lately with reta though.
Arimidex works better in higher frequency due to its short halflife. Aromasin has a longer one.
A1c is a good measurement for long term, it goes months back. I had a sub 5 A1c and my fasting insulin was 15, if i had keep pushing the bulk for 2-3 months my A1c most probably have went way higher. This is why in most cases you need multiple markers to assess a situation.
Gear wise, you're on just 750 test all this time? No other anabolics? With your body type you could use nandrolone (if you respond well) and gain some extra anabolism, strength and joint support since you're going big on healing peptides too.
Regarding fats now, staying all week super low like below 40 perhaps it's not wise long term but from the time you have free meals with high fats that's not the case. When i had almost zero cheats i couldn't go below 70-80gr of fat per day. Now i'm eating 35-45gr 5-6 days a week and i'm having a free meal with 150gr. That keeps my cravings down, i can suffer the weekdays with no fats and have some juicy burgers with fries at Saturday.
On the other hand, if someone hits a plateau with carbs and food is too much there's no need to force feed, extra fats especially from steak and eggs can be very beneficial, just keep them away from slin.
Eating on reta is still very hard for me at 6mg+. I'm hungry as usual but i'm getting full easy and then i need hours for my stomach to settle. I find it hard to digest even beef patties with rice. Only plain chicken n rice sits well currently.
Oatmeal around training was my go to for a long time, now with reta i'm having 100gr oats/60gr whey/20gr honey and 120gr banana 90' before training and i'm bloated during training. I've found that oats and banana is a bad mix for me, i can go with higher oats and no banana and i'm ok..this happens mostly lately with reta though.
Arimidex works better in higher frequency due to its short halflife. Aromasin has a longer one.
A1c is a good measurement for long term, it goes months back. I had a sub 5 A1c and my fasting insulin was 15, if i had keep pushing the bulk for 2-3 months my A1c most probably have went way higher. This is why in most cases you need multiple markers to assess a situation.
Gear wise, you're on just 750 test all this time? No other anabolics? With your body type you could use nandrolone (if you respond well) and gain some extra anabolism, strength and joint support since you're going big on healing peptides too.
Regarding fats now, staying all week super low like below 40 perhaps it's not wise long term but from the time you have free meals with high fats that's not the case. When i had almost zero cheats i couldn't go below 70-80gr of fat per day. Now i'm eating 35-45gr 5-6 days a week and i'm having a free meal with 150gr. That keeps my cravings down, i can suffer the weekdays with no fats and have some juicy burgers with fries at Saturday.
On the other hand, if someone hits a plateau with carbs and food is too much there's no need to force feed, extra fats especially from steak and eggs can be very beneficial, just keep them away from slin.
Take 20iu, no balls.
Thanks Eddie! I'm so excited for those after pics as well, haha.
Reta really does push you to re-think your food choices (GLPs in general); they will exacerbate any issues you have with certain foods (which might be a good thing from a behavioral stand point). I have came close to throwing up my pre-meal so many times when I was doing oats, but that all went away after switching to CoR. CoR also tastes good with water, unlike oats, lol.
Eddie, have you tried Tirz before?
You also need Eddies to remind you to keep stuff in check.
Yes! I tried Deca and NPP before and that's when I experienced my first ever panic attack (I was under extreme stress back in 2016 so maybe it wasn't JUST the NPP). I'm shying away from most compounds due to potential hair loss issues, though.
I'm actually thinking of sticking with test (I tolerate test VERY well) until I get to that 1.5g range. I LOVE this compound; feels clean. safe, and easy to manage.
Absolutely, that's my line of thinking as well. I had to go the near-zero approach first so that I have something to compare to later down the line. Man you have no idea how sick I am of eating pure carbs all day and all night, lol.
Don't tempt me bro, you know I might pull a Chase Irons.
Really appreciate you guys; I feel that keeping this log has helped me keep myself accountable.
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Minor update, blood work
I've taken some time off from the gym since my last leg session (skipped PPL A for this week, going back tomorrow) to recover.
Labs
E2 (0.5mg/day Adex, no access to sensitive E2 test in my country): 61
CK: 1150 (72 hours since my leg session, usually 3k 20-24 hours post training)
Comment/concern: this has always been high for me, with no signs of kidney issue or liver/urine indicators. My heart specific CK is also always normal, not sure if I should be concerned; I read that this is normal for athletes. I've also been doing Therabar exercises (for tennis elbow) every single night.
Lipids (on 2.5mg Rosuvastatin, 10mg Ezetimibe for 4 weeks, down from 5mg/10mg)
LDL: 41
HDL: 35
LDL/HDL ratio: 1.2
Cholesterol/HDL ratio: 2.4
Cholesterol: 83
Trig: 34
VLDL: 6.8
This is barely different from my labs on 5mg Rosuva, (LDL up from 20ish to 41, which is still a no concern). I'll be sticking to this dosage going forward.
I've taken some time off from the gym since my last leg session (skipped PPL A for this week, going back tomorrow) to recover.
Labs
E2 (0.5mg/day Adex, no access to sensitive E2 test in my country): 61
CK: 1150 (72 hours since my leg session, usually 3k 20-24 hours post training)
Comment/concern: this has always been high for me, with no signs of kidney issue or liver/urine indicators. My heart specific CK is also always normal, not sure if I should be concerned; I read that this is normal for athletes. I've also been doing Therabar exercises (for tennis elbow) every single night.
Lipids (on 2.5mg Rosuvastatin, 10mg Ezetimibe for 4 weeks, down from 5mg/10mg)
LDL: 41
HDL: 35
LDL/HDL ratio: 1.2
Cholesterol/HDL ratio: 2.4
Cholesterol: 83
Trig: 34
VLDL: 6.8
This is barely different from my labs on 5mg Rosuva, (LDL up from 20ish to 41, which is still a no concern). I'll be sticking to this dosage going forward.
Hope you’re all good, man - it’s been a minute since we’ve seen an update. Are you cruising on test right now and letting the body recover? Got any plans lined up for when you’ll fire up the next cycle?
Ateam2023
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? i was wondering what was going on? Its been some time , you doing ok i hope , ,
Thanks for checking in on me guys, I really do appreciate it.
I'm doing great; just dealing with some things in life right now so I barely have time to post. That said, I'll be back home in about 2 weeks so things should go back to how they were.
What I've been doing
Current condition on 200g carbs/day
I started a mini-cut as soon as I was done with my 3 day break right after my 3-month progress phase; it's been 10 days so far, and I'm down from 82.5kg to 78.5kg. That's about a 4kg drop, 75% of it being water.
I honestly thought I gained much more fat than I really did (due to the water making me look much softer), but it looks like I barely gained any fat at all, if any. I'll continue to cut for another two weeks and start my next progress phase (another 3 months)
I'd say we gained around 3kg of real tissue this past phase, MAJOR SUCCESS.
Current/new protocol
- 2100 calories/day, 2 chicken meals with less than 30g carbs and 2 carb meals around training, 5ius of Humalog with pre and a 50g shake intra; carbs still around 200g only
- I dropped GH down to 8 and I'll be working my way up to 12 this time; currently on 9ius
- Test will be at 1g, already ramped the dose up last week
Meds
- I switch Rusova to Pitavastatin at 2mg and kept the Ezetimibe; so far everything is going great, blood work on the 4th next month! Pretty excited for this, actually
- I had to drop my Ivabradine dose from 7.5mg x2/day to 5mg x2/day because my heart rate dropped so much after I lowered my carbs and shed the water weight
Tennis elbow
ALMOST GONE; been doing the flex bar exercise daily (3x20) and worked my way up to the hardest bar now; just need a couple more weeks and I'll be able to say I'm 100% healed, hopefully.
Other injuries
Tweaked my right shoulder again (NOT lifting), this worked like absolute magic
View: https://youtube.com/shorts/PzM9ker51UQ?si=-lgYPSHz9YgnmBn_
You guys gotta try it, it's really effective, like nothing else you've probably done.
Oh, I also got a NINJA CREAMi
and I've been having en entire pint of protein ice cream post workout every single day since (most end up around 500-550 cals)
100/10 I recommend you get one of these; makes cutting an absolute joke, especially if you use an amazing tasting protein like these protein cookie dough flavors
Randome eats from the past two fridays
This was actually a smash burger place but their chicken sandwiches were NUTS; better than anything I've had in recent memory.
This was also pretty damn good; the loaded fries were amazing
Hookah and dessert
My favorite way to start a Friday; SPICY FISH with the family
Oh, and I'll be doing botox (forehead) today, so I'll be skipping pull A this week (or I might do a double session tomorrow, we'll see)
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Ateam2023
Member
Thanks for checking in on me guys, I really do appreciate it.
I'm doing great; just dealing with some things in life right now so I barely have time to post. That said, I'll be back home in about 2 weeks so things should go back to how they were.
What I've been doing
Current condition on 200g carbs/day
I started a mini-cut as soon as I was done with my 3 day break right after my 3-month progress phase; it's been 10 days so far, and I'm down from 82.5kg to 78.5kg. That's about a 4kg drop, 75% of it being water.
I honestly thought I gained much more fat than I really did (due to the water making me look much softer), but it looks like I barely gained any fat at all, if any. I'll continue to cut for another two weeks and start my next progress phase (another 3 months)
I'd say we gained around 3kg of real tissue this past phase, MAJOR SUCCESS.
Current/new protocol
- 2100 calories/day, 2 chicken meals with less than 30g carbs and 2 carb meals around training, 5ius of Humalog with pre and a 50g shake intra; carbs still around 200g only
- I dropped GH down to 8 and I'll be working my way up to 12 this time; currently on 9ius
- Test will be at 1g, already ramped the dose up last week
Meds
- I switch Rusova to Pitavastatin at 2mg and kept the Ezetimibe; so far everything is going great, blood work on the 4th next month! Pretty excited for this, actually
- I had to drop my Ivabradine dose from 7.5mg x2/day to 5mg x2/day because my heart rate dropped so much after I lowered my carbs and shed the water weight
Tennis elbow
ALMOST GONE; been doing the flex bar exercise daily (3x20) and worked my way up to the hardest bar now; just need a couple more weeks and I'll be able to say I'm 100% healed, hopefully.
Other injuries
Tweaked my right shoulder again (NOT lifting), this worked like absolute magic
View: https://youtube.com/shorts/PzM9ker51UQ?si=-lgYPSHz9YgnmBn_
You guys gotta try it, it's really effective, like nothing else you've probably done.
Oh, I also got a NINJA CREAMi
and I've been having en entire pint of protein ice cream post workout every single day since (most end up around 500-550 cals)
100/10 I recommend you get one of these; makes cutting an absolute joke, especially if you use an amazing tasting protein like these protein cookie dough flavors
Randome eats from the past two fridays
This was actually a smash burger place but their chicken sandwiches were NUTS; better than anything I've had in recent memory.
This was also pretty damn good; the loaded fries were amazing
Hookah and dessert
My favorite way to start a Friday; SPICY FISH with the family
Oh, and I'll be doing botox (forehead) today, so I'll be skipping pull A this week (or I might do a double session tomorrow, we'll see)
are you doing the botox injections yourself?
I get them done at the clinic twice a year
Thanks for checking in on me guys, I really do appreciate it.
I'm doing great; just dealing with some things in life right now so I barely have time to post. That said, I'll be back home in about 2 weeks so things should go back to how they were.
What I've been doing
Current condition on 200g carbs/day
I started a mini-cut as soon as I was done with my 3 day break right after my 3-month progress phase; it's been 10 days so far, and I'm down from 82.5kg to 78.5kg. That's about a 4kg drop, 75% of it being water.
I honestly thought I gained much more fat than I really did (due to the water making me look much softer), but it looks like I barely gained any fat at all, if any. I'll continue to cut for another two weeks and start my next progress phase (another 3 months)
I'd say we gained around 3kg of real tissue this past phase, MAJOR SUCCESS.
Current/new protocol
- 2100 calories/day, 2 chicken meals with less than 30g carbs and 2 carb meals around training, 5ius of Humalog with pre and a 50g shake intra; carbs still around 200g only
- I dropped GH down to 8 and I'll be working my way up to 12 this time; currently on 9ius
- Test will be at 1g, already ramped the dose up last week
Meds
- I switch Rusova to Pitavastatin at 2mg and kept the Ezetimibe; so far everything is going great, blood work on the 4th next month! Pretty excited for this, actually
- I had to drop my Ivabradine dose from 7.5mg x2/day to 5mg x2/day because my heart rate dropped so much after I lowered my carbs and shed the water weight
Tennis elbow
ALMOST GONE; been doing the flex bar exercise daily (3x20) and worked my way up to the hardest bar now; just need a couple more weeks and I'll be able to say I'm 100% healed, hopefully.
Other injuries
Tweaked my right shoulder again (NOT lifting), this worked like absolute magic
View: https://youtube.com/shorts/PzM9ker51UQ?si=-lgYPSHz9YgnmBn_
You guys gotta try it, it's really effective, like nothing else you've probably done.
Oh, I also got a NINJA CREAMi
and I've been having en entire pint of protein ice cream post workout every single day since (most end up around 500-550 cals)
100/10 I recommend you get one of these; makes cutting an absolute joke, especially if you use an amazing tasting protein like these protein cookie dough flavors
Randome eats from the past two fridays
This was actually a smash burger place but their chicken sandwiches were NUTS; better than anything I've had in recent memory.
This was also pretty damn good; the loaded fries were amazing
Hookah and dessert
My favorite way to start a Friday; SPICY FISH with the family
Oh, and I'll be doing botox (forehead) today, so I'll be skipping pull A this week (or I might do a double session tomorrow, we'll see)
Man, this isn’t a mini-cut update - this is a crime scene for natty lifters. You drop 4kg of water, and somehow look like you’re ready to headline the Olympia.
200g of carbs? I swear my 200g carbs just go straight to love handles, but yours turn into shoulder striations. This photo should come with a disclaimer: ‘Warning - may cause instant gym guilt.
Honestly, if we drop the jokes - your progress is impressive. You’ve become so much denser and more refined in just this phase. It’s genuinely inspiring to watch guys like you, Eddie, and a handful of others here who truly grind, stick to the plan, and give 100% and the results speak for themselves.
It’s even a bit scary (in a good way) to imagine where you’ll be after the next cycle, considering how much you’ve already built. Keep going, man - this is top-tier work.
It’s even a bit scary (in a good way) to imagine where you’ll be after the next cycle, considering how much you’ve already built. Keep going, man - this is top-tier work.
This have me a good laugh (which I absolutely needed), haha. Have you tried a protein/carb approach? With very minimal fats. I thought I had the same problem until I tried this the way I did this past phase and it worked pretty well.
Thanks brother, I truly am happy I could offer something of value; I said this before but perhaps without you guys and this log I wouldn’t have taken this as seriously as I did.
I’m PSYCHED for this next phase; I took this entire week off dieting just to indulge a bit since I leave my parents next week, so I probably need another two more weeks.
Phase 2 starts once I hit 77.00kgs on the scale!
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