Journey to the bottom of the food chain; Angus gains 0.33g of muscle!

[FuriousAngus]

Glorious progress phase 2, W1D2, 17/08/2025
Bodyweight: 76.95Kg WHAT?!

Woke up pretty crispy today; I might have underestimated the diuretic effect of Jardiance guys. I'm visibly drier despite eating much more, and my hands are no longer going numb when I sleep like a maniac. I have no signs of dehydration.

Peeing a bit more than usual, though...

Weight
The fact that my weight isn't rapidly going up indicates that my glycogen stores are NOT filling up despite eating higher calories for 4 days straight now (3 of which I was on Jardiance), which means my surplus isn't high enough to start filling my stores (typically a 2.5/3.5kg over my dieted weight, we're barely at a 1kg increase).

I have upped my calories to 4150, around 650g carbs and 310-320g protein.

Telmisartan
I don't have access to 20mg pills here so I had to cut my 40mg pills into halves. I have read that the pills are pretty sensitive so I only cut a week's worth; my BP has been creeping up to the low 130s sometimes so it's probably time. Took my first pill minutes ago.

Breakfast
More of the same, DELICIOUS PANCAKES

These are ALWAYS followed by a 15 minutes walk on the treadmill; nothing too serious. I do this with my first and last meals to help with insulin sensitivity.

Pre
CoR

Delicious. 12 ius of Humalog; absolutely fine, no issues. This meal came out at 180g carbs.

Training
Pull A

Had an AMAZING workout today as well; I was able to do hammer curls pain free (I absolutely love those). I'll be reintroducing them in my bicep workout from here on.

Wide grip lat pulldown x2 (those techno pulldown machines are insanely heavy compared to other brands)

Machine row x2

Upper back row x2

Cable curls x2
DB curls x2
EZ bar curls x2

SUPERSET
Reverse peck deck x6
Seated cable shrug x6

Cable crunch x2

30 minutes Z2 cardio.

Post
Much better; I drank my protein and had this with regular lactose free low fat milk

8iu Humalog. 180g of carbs as well (had a date bar as a snack, 20g carbs and 1g fat)

Problem is, this meal gave me some extreme gas both tonight and last night, so I'll be eating either oats or another CoR from here on. I've been farting for at least 5 hours now, it's insane.

Chicken sammiches, this time with potato buns
Found some nice potato buns that only come with 1g fat per bun, so I used those tonight; came out delicious

I want to show you guys something.

This is my younger brother (he's a retired bodybuilder, got back into it 6 months ago and wants to rebuild and do classic physique)

He's been on a very similar protocol to mine (he wanted to try Humalog after he's seen the progress that I made, he was impressed), except he's either on test/EQ or test/primo, he rotates.

Anyways, he sent his pics to a very famous coach in the UAE known for creating mass monsters of out guys who weigh absolutely nothing, we paid around 500$ for a one time consultation so It'll be very interesting to hear this guy's approach. We're going to have him critique our approach, etc.

This guy is known for growing guys THICK on very high calories while keeping them pretty lean, yet he pops slin with cheat meals and does some pretty illogical things, so I'm fairly interested to hear his rationale as well.

I personally know an IFBB pro (he just turned pro) who works with this guy and he has him on lantus + humalog + 1500 calorie cheat meals EVERY NIGHT.

 

[FuriousAngus]

Glorious progress phase 2, W1D3, 18/08/2025
Bodyweight: 77.33Kg

I've been getting pretty good sleep ever since I added more food; it's also much easier to fall asleep.

I did the zoom consultation (with my brother) and the coach I mentioned before, took around 40-50 minutes (more on this later), very pleasant individual.

Blood pressure update
After doing some more reading it appears that you're supposed to take the reading of the arm that consistently gives the higher reading (I was doing the opposite), this means I've had slightly elevated BP for some time now (130/80). Anyways, took my second dose of 20mg Telmisartan but I'm thinking of just moving to 40mg now; I was afraid of going hypotensive but not after figuring this out, lol.

Morning reading was fine on both arms (photo taken at night, clock isn't calibrated).

Breakfast

Can'rt get enough of this; just cooked another batch! We're having pancakes erry'day. I also started taking Berberine again.

Pre

Got me some sourdough bread, yum. Did 12ius again today. However, I did go SLIGHTLY hypo (by feel at least), before I hit that one hour mark, probably due to quick dips in BG, timing, etc. To alleviate this I'll be consuming 2-3 dates 30 minutes after this meal (about 10-15g carbs).

Training
Legs A

Another GREAT workout. The shoulder mobility I've been doing lately is working pretty well; I suspect I'll be able to get under a bar and squat again in 1-2 weeks tops.

Leg press x4

Leg extension x2

Seated leg curl x3

Lying leg curl x3

SUPERSET
Leg press calves x6
Abductor machine x6
Adductor machine x6

Cable crunch x2
30 minutes Z2 cardio

Post

9ius, resulted in a slight hypo. Back to 8ius again (this meal had 175g carbs, but I'm way too sensitive right now). Also, still having crazy gas after my post workout meal; I tried cereal and oats and both were bad, trying CoR tomorrow.

Last meal

Those bars have 20g carbs each and only 1g of fat. Drink had 34g of carbs, totaling 165g.

Big changes; summary of our zoom consultation
- Coach was very attentive; he let us speak, he listened, and his answers reflected that
- Very intelligent, had good reasoning behind everything he recommended and didn't shy away from having a back and forth
- We discussed diet, insulin use (Humalog + Lantus), and AAS
- He approved of the way we've been using Humalog, said that's exactly how he uses it and that's how all of his athletes use it
- He was pretty shocked when I told him I was eating 600g+ of carbs on 750mg test and 12ius GH; he said the GH dose is massive and he believes I wasted an entire progress phase by ONLY EATING 600g CARBS, LOL.

More on this; he said the minimum for someone my weight and level if he were to try and put slabs of meat on me WITHOUT GETTING ME FAT is 1000g of carbs. He said trying to do a lean bulk on such a high dose of GH is a major waste, and that my surplus should be closer to a 1000, said I will not get fat, and if BG gets too high eventually to just use a small dose of lanuts and continue pushing. He also thought my fats were ridiculously low, and he wanted me on a minimum of 80g of fats; that's 5000 calories if I were to follow his recommendations, lol. He doesn't believe that fat on slin makes you fat; rather, it's a big surplus (to him a big surplus is 2000+, lol...).

Truth is, as crazy some of this stuff is, I can't argue with results; I've seen a ton of this guy's athletes, and none of them are fat, and the one thing they all have in common is they all BLEW UP once they started working with him. Oh, he also said that 1g of test is the minimum, but it's enough right now.

This honestly made me reconsider my approach; I don't have to follow everything he said to the T, but maybe there is some truth to what he said. Maybe I am leaving gains on the table by trying to minimize fat gain to this degree.

Here's what we're doing now
- I'll be aiming for 800g of carbs
- I still don't believe in unnecessarily adding fats, but I won't shy away from them if I feel like it; eggs, cheese, etc.
- New daily goal will be around 4500 calories, I'll push for at least 4 weeks before I reassess if I'm just getting fat or getting THICK

Now, initially I thought this would be pretty hard, but it's really not. I'll simply switch my artificial sweeteners for real sugar, add another scoop in my intra, and add a little high carb low fat snack + fizzy drink to my last meal (like I did today). I know it's maybe too much sugar, which I don't particularly like, but we'll see what happens.

I might also do a third dose of Humalog with my last meal.

 

[Ateam2023]

Glorious progress phase 2, W1D3, 18/08/2025
Bodyweight: 77.33Kg

I've been getting pretty good sleep ever since I added more food; it's also much easier to fall asleep.

I did the zoom consultation (with my brother) and the coach I mentioned before, took around 40-50 minutes (more on this later), very pleasant individual.

Blood pressure update
After doing some more reading it appears that you're supposed to take the reading of the arm that consistently gives the higher reading (I was doing the opposite), this means I've had slightly elevated BP for some time now (130/80). Anyways, took my second dose of 20mg Telmisartan but I'm thinking of just moving to 40mg now; I was afraid of going hypotensive but not after figuring this out, lol.

Morning reading was fine on both arms (photo taken at night, clock isn't calibrated).

Breakfast

Can'rt get enough of this; just cooked another batch! We're having pancakes erry'day. I also started taking Berberine again.

Pre

Got me some sourdough bread, yum. Did 12ius again today. However, I did go SLIGHTLY hypo (by feel at least), before I hit that one hour mark, probably due to quick dips in BG, timing, etc. To alleviate this I'll be consuming 2-3 dates 30 minutes after this meal (about 10-15g carbs).

Training
Legs A

Another GREAT workout. The shoulder mobility I've been doing lately is working pretty well; I suspect I'll be able to get under a bar and squat again in 1-2 weeks tops.

Leg press x4

Leg extension x2

Seated leg curl x3

Lying leg curl x3

SUPERSET
Leg press calves x6
Abductor machine x6
Adductor machine x6

Cable crunch x2
30 minutes Z2 cardio

Post

9ius, resulted in a slight hypo. Back to 8ius again (this meal had 175g carbs, but I'm way too sensitive right now). Also, still having crazy gas after my post workout meal; I tried cereal and oats and both were bad, trying CoR tomorrow.

Last meal

Those bars have 20g carbs each and only 1g of fat. Drink had 34g of carbs, totaling 165g.

Big changes; summary of our zoom consultation
- Coach was very attentive; he let us speak, he listened, and his answers reflected that
- Very intelligent, had good reasoning behind everything he recommended and didn't shy away from having a back and forth
- We discussed diet, insulin use (Humalog + Lantus), and AAS
- He approved of the way we've been using Humalog, said that's exactly how he uses it and that's how all of his athletes use it
- He was pretty shocked when I told him I was eating 600g+ of carbs on 750mg test and 12ius GH; he said the GH dose is massive and he believes I wasted an entire progress phase by ONLY EATING 600g CARBS, LOL.

More on this; he said the minimum for someone my weight and level if he were to try and put slabs of meat on me WITHOUT GETTING ME FAT is 1000g of carbs. He said trying to do a lean bulk on such a high dose of GH is a major waste, and that my surplus should be closer to a 1000, said I will not get fat, and if BG gets too high eventually to just use a small dose of lanuts and continue pushing. He also thought my fats were ridiculously low, and he wanted me on a minimum of 80g of fats; that's 5000 calories if I were to follow his recommendations, lol. He doesn't believe that fat on slin makes you fat; rather, it's a big surplus (to him a big surplus is 2000+, lol...).

Truth is, as crazy some of this stuff is, I can't argue with results; I've seen a ton of this guy's athletes, and none of them are fat, and the one thing they all have in common is they all BLEW UP once they started working with him. Oh, he also said that 1g of test is the minimum, but it's enough right now.

This honestly made me reconsider my approach; I don't have to follow everything he said to the T, but maybe there is some truth to what he said. Maybe I am leaving gains on the table by trying to minimize fat gain to this degree.

Here's what we're doing now
- I'll be aiming for 800g of carbs
- I still don't believe in unnecessarily adding fats, but I won't shy away from them if I feel like it; eggs, cheese, etc.
- New daily goal will be around 4500 calories, I'll push for at least 4 weeks before I reassess if I'm just getting fat or getting THICK

Now, initially I thought this would be pretty hard, but it's really not. I'll simply switch my artificial sweeteners for real sugar, add another scoop in my intra, and add a little high carb low fat snack + fizzy drink to my last meal (like I did today). I know it's maybe too much sugar, which I don't particularly like, but we'll see what happens.

I might also do a third dose of Humalog with my last meal.

your pancakes look so fn AMAZINGLY delicious,, mine never turn out nice and pretty, i heard the trick is a hot pan? what do you cook those on?

 

[rexy]

Anyways, took my second dose of 20mg Telmisartan but I'm thinking of just moving to 40mg now; I was afraid of going hypotensive but not after figuring this out, lol.

Do you have a plan of action if BP stays elevated? Looks like a job for Cilnidipine if you don't see adequate improvements from Telm alone, then perhaps a third add if it still struggles.

There is an irony of me asking this, considering i've had to take measures to get blood pressure up by removing everything but Telm at 40mg. My BP sits low on most AAS doses, I'm similar to Eddie - hovering around 105/55. Now i'm back at 120/71 and feel much better.

But that aside, I have experience trying to understand it and so wanted to make you aware of this med if you didn't know already.

Telmaheal-trio might be a good product to keep on the watchlist.

 

[Ateam2023]

your pancakes look so fn AMAZINGLY delicious,, mine never turn out nice and pretty, i heard the trick is a hot pan? what do you cook those on?

you could always use "real butter" on those pancakes for a little extra fat,

 

[FuriousAngus]

your pancakes look so fn AMAZINGLY delicious,, mine never turn out nice and pretty, i heard the trick is a hot pan? what do you cook those on?

you could always use "real butter" on those pancakes for a little extra fat,

It's pretty easy; NEVER oil or spray your pan. Hot pan (around 350F) + no oil = beautiful pancakes. You just need a good non stick (I use a Tefal).

I have some brown butter that my mom made that I could mix in...

Do you have a plan of action if BP stays elevated? Looks like a job for Cilnidipine if you don't see adequate improvements from Telm alone, then perhaps a third add if it still struggles.

There is an irony of me asking this, considering i've had to take measures to get blood pressure up by removing everything but Telm at 40mg. My BP sits low on most AAS doses, I'm similar to Eddie - hovering around 105/55. Now i'm back at 120/71 and feel much better.

But that aside, I have experience trying to understand it and so wanted to make you aware of this med if you didn't know already.

Telmaheal-trio might be a good product to keep on the watchlist.View attachment 341624

I don't, but I honestly doubt it would. I'll be upping my dose to 40mg starting tomorrow.

This might be a surprise but I actually was just like you all my life (even while on AAS). This only changed after the addition of HGH + Insulin, but mainly HGH. Thanks for sharing this @rexy , I'll keep it on my list just in case (hopefully won't need it).

Also, I'm starting to like this Jardiance drug.

 

[Eddie.]

Regarding fats and insulin, i believe fats should be added when you hit the ceiling on carbs. For instance, if you can't consume more than 800 and you must force-feed then i guess it's better to find other means to push calories, eg fats. Nothing wrong on adding fats if you structure a good plan.

Though, lantus and fats would be a no no for me. You could add fats in the meals away from training and skip the insulin. Use the humalog with meals that are low in fats, at least you'll have a peace of mind that way.

Also, I've heard from many guys that fat sources play role, don't rely solely on olive oil and nut butters. A high fat beef stake is superior, eggs are great, bacon surprisingly has a good source of saturated fats. Obviously you'll need to avoid fried, deep fried and and other shitty oils like palm oil etc.

Another good source IMO is organic coconut butter, just take a KG of that thing and chug down a tablespoon. It will give you ~30 grams of MCT.

Many guys who push 7-8K calories have fats above 100gr, you'll have to play it smart though. Save the trans fat and the deep fried stuff for your cheat meals and don't add them to your daily routine.

As far as the blood pressure, how much difference do you notice between each arm? Also, is it the left higher or the right?

 

[FuriousAngus]

Regarding fats and insulin, i believe fats should be added when you hit the ceiling on carbs. For instance, if you can't consume more than 800 and you must force-feed then i guess it's better to find other means to push calories, eg fats. Nothing wrong on adding fats if you structure a good plan.

Though, lantus and fats would be a no no for me. You could add fats in the meals away from training and skip the insulin. Use the humalog with meals that are low in fats, at least you'll have a peace of mind that way.

Also, I've heard from many guys that fat sources play role, don't rely solely on olive oil and nut butters. A high fat beef stake is superior, eggs are great, bacon surprisingly has a good source of saturated fats. Obviously you'll need to avoid fried, deep fried and and other shitty oils like palm oil etc.

Another good source IMO is organic coconut butter, just take a KG of that thing and chug down a tablespoon. It will give you ~30 grams of MCT.

Many guys who push 7-8K calories have fats above 100gr, you'll have to play it smart though. Save the trans fat and the deep fried stuff for your cheat meals and don't add them to your daily routine.

As far as the blood pressure, how much difference do you notice between each arm? Also, is it the left higher or the right?

I'm of the same opinion as well, if anything for health reasons alone. I don't think I'll NEED to push fats for a VERY long time, honestly. I can probably down up to 5000 with relative ease, right now.

But like I said seeing this guy's athletes downing all of these calories and high fats WHILE on lantus (he did specifically say he uses the minimum dose needed to stabilize fasted BG) and humalog 3 times a day AND still remaining lean? It's mind boggling to say the least.

Today will be 4500, 25ish fats only. Honestly, this would be MUCH harder for me if fats were higher due to slowed digestion.

As for BP; my right arm (the bigger arm) is 5 points higher, maybe slightly less at times, but that's enough to tip me beyond the 130 mark at some points during the day. I always sit and relax for 1-2 minutes before taking my readings.

I just tested again, this is my right (this reading was taken AFTER the reading below)

Left

It's barely elevated, this is my 3rd day on Telmi 20mg, I'll be doing 40mg tonight (and will likely not need to go further)

EDIT: retested minutes later (right arm only) and it eas 133/69.

 

[Eddie.]

Ok, so difference is negligible. They say it's worrying if one arm shows significant difference with the other one, i think for potential clot but yours is fine. I think you'll be ok with 40 telm, my low diastolic worries me and i can't use anything even for preventative measures. Perhaps I'll try jardiance though later when carbs go high enough.

 

[FuriousAngus]

Ok, so difference is negligible. They say it's worrying if one arm shows significant difference with the other one, i think for potential clot but yours is fine. I think you'll be ok with 40 telm, my low diastolic worries me and i can't use anything even for preventative measures. Perhaps I'll try jardiance though later when carbs go high enough.

You're right @Eddie.. I always wanted to be on Telmi mainly for it's non-BP related benefits but my BP in general has always been low (as low as 95/55 with no symptoms), but that's no longer the case after HGH, lol.

You could always get a month's worth of Jardiance just to try it out; the kidney and heart benefits are amazing. Also, it doesn't seem that the increase in HCT is absolute, at least according to the doctor in the video you linked earlier; he says that it basically mostly happens when your HCT is already low, as but as it climbs up you're less and less likely to experience any substantial increase.

 

[Nidus]

You're right @Eddie.. I always wanted to be on Telmi mainly for it's non-BP related benefits but my BP in general has always been low (as low as 95/55 with no symptoms), but that's no longer the case after HGH, lol.

You could always get a month's worth of Jardiance just to try it out; the kidney and heart benefits are amazing. Also, it doesn't seem that the increase in HCT is absolute, at least according to the doctor in the video you linked earlier; he says that it basically mostly happens when your HCT is already low, as but as it climbs up you're less and less likely to experience any substantial increase.

Jardiance only increases in HCT when your kidneys are screwed and not healthy i.e. they tend to shift focus from EPO Production to its primary task, so the studies in which HCT raised were mostly done on diabetics or people with existing metabolic diseases where the kidney then required less oxygen and energy overall and could shift resources to EPO production back

 

[FuriousAngus]

Jardiance only increases in HCT when your kidneys are screwed and not healthy i.e. they tend to shift focus from EPO Production to its primary task, so the studies in which HCT raised were mostly done on diabetics or people with existing metabolic diseases where the kidney then required less oxygen and energy overall and could shift resources to EPO production back

This is very informative, thanks for sharing @Nidus. This is very good news because I am a tiny tiny bit worried about this one aspect; not that I ever had HCT issues before, but I don’t want to start having them, lol.

 

[Nidus]

This is very informative, thanks for sharing @Nidus. This is very good news because I am a tiny tiny bit worried about this one aspect; not that I ever had HCT issues before, but I don’t want to start having them, lol.

No worries! I've been using Jardiance for nearly 2 years now and follow all the research and studies about it precisely. Happy to help!

 

[Eddie.]

No worries! I've been using Jardiance for nearly 2 years now and follow all the research and studies about it precisely. Happy to help!

Have you looked into gliptin meds? Like sitagliptin (januvia) and its application on bb lifestyle? The only I hear preaching it is vigorous but he says a lot of bs generally and I’m kinda in disbelief.

 

[Nidus]

Have you looked into gliptin meds? Like sitagliptin (januvia) and its application on bb lifestyle? The only I hear preaching it is vigorous but he says a lot of bs generally and I’m kinda in disbelief.

They are often combined i.e DPP-4 + Metformin or Imeglime and or other Oral Diabetics like SLGT2's. I personally dont like them as the risk for pancreatitis is high and very common among the trials.
DPP-4 are very cheap thats why you find them added in combination with them above

And GLP1's beat them by a LOT for lifestyle changes, impact on health. I am curious how they might work with a GLP as they slow down the breakdown of GLP itself in the body but no studies there so far, only stuff i came across is that its not recommended to run DPP-4 with GLP1's at all

 

[FuriousAngus]

Glorious progress phase 2, W1D4, 19/08/2025
Bodyweight: 78.15Kg

We're getting fuller, boys! I'm seriously loving Jardiance; no more numb hands and holding very little water despite going up in weight/filling up with glycogen. This morning at 78.15Kg:

I'll be walking you guys through the new diet today. We're aiming for 4500 calories, around 800g carbs, 265g+ protein, and still fairly low fats.

Breakfast

These came out much nicer with sugar instead of splenda, looking a lot more attractive, too!

(all approximates)
Carbs: 195g
Protein: 57g
Fats: <5g

Took dihydroberberine and walked 15 minutes straight after.

Pre
CoR

13ius Humalog; meal was followed by 3 dates (around 15g carbs) 30 minutes later; this has been the "nicest" BG feel I had in a while, even better than 10ius. More on this later.

Carb:180g
Protein: 53g
Fat: <5g

Intra was 15g EAA and 75g carbs, plus 15g from the dates.

Training
Push B
I nearly bursted through my own skin today; I had an insane pump and my muscles felt pretty tight from being filled with glycogen.

Incline machine press x2
Incline bench press x2 (first time doing these in YEARS, I was very weak but my chest was about to blow up from the pump)
Pec deck x2

SUPERSET
DB laterals x3
DB shoulder press (neutral grip) x3

Machine laterals x3
Machine press x3

Single arm cable tricep extension x3
Overhead cable tricep extension x3

Cable crunch x2
30 minutes Z2 cardio

Post

Made some toasted powdered milk; a little bit adds a ton of flavor

Had CoR with date milk (dates blended in milk) and date syrup

8iu, but went slightly/almost hypo (more on this in a bit).

Carb: 180g
Protein: 53g
Fat: <5g

Last meal
Been really enjoying this meal

Carb: 165g
Protein: 91g
Fat: 12g

Approx. total:
Carbs: 810g
Protein: 269g
Fat: <27g

On going hypo
I typically eat and then jab my Humalog immediately after/within a minute or two; this has worked fine for the most part but I recently have been cleaning my meals (returning to BG baseline from peak) in just an hour and a half, due to being very insulin sensitive. This resulted in glucose clearing before the second "wave" of Humalog hits, which is around the 2 hour mark for me. I'm basically being hit with a bigger wave after my BG has returned to normal, so I end up dipping too low.

I have two options; either have some carbs, say 10g's worth, before the second wave, or try to jab my Humalog 15 minutes before my meals. I'll be experimenting with the latter tomorrow.

Telmisartan
Took 40mg today; will report back in a few days.

 

[FuriousAngus]

Glorious progress phase 2, W1D6, 21/08/2025
Bodyweight: 79.25Kg

Woke up full to my bones today; I probably just reached full muscle saturation. Smaller weight jumps from here on, I bet.

Bit of a BIG update today, particularly as it relates to insulin use.

So I've been pretty bothered by how little insulin I can use before going hypo; it can't simply be just an insulin sensitivity issue because I had the same problem when my fasting insulin was 12 last phase.

The problem was that my body always cleared the glucose from my meal before the insulin could catch it in it's second wave, resulting in me going hypo no matter how many carbs I use.

Well, I figured it out, FINALLY.

I started taking insulin 15 minutes BEFORE my meals, and that COMPLETELY ELIMINATED the problem. In fact, I did 16ius in my pre meal today and 12ius in my post, and I could've pushed even further if I wanted.

I've done this yesterday as well and it seems that this is the answer (for me). I do know that diabetics do this, too, but it's all individual.

For reference; I would normally eat my meal and then immediately jab my Humalog. No more, lol.

Also, I'm thinking of adding a little bit of insulin to my first meal of the day (200g carbs), and last meal as well; my reasoning is that given the amount of carbs in those meals, aiding my pancreas a little bit might still result in LESS insulin resistance than letting it handle all of these carbs on its own, especially for my first meal. If I do it it'll be a relatively low dose, like 6-8 tops.

Curcumin?
I'm still suffering from terrible gas, but after some careful analysis it all started around the time I introduced curcumin, so I'm dropping it for now to see if it's the culprit.

Telmisartan
Improvement, but still not where I want to be; I figure it'll take a week or two to reach its maximum effect, so we're still ways ahead. No issues so far.

Breakfast
The usual

Delicious.

Pre

Forgot to blend my banana in with the mix, but it came out pretty yummy anyways. 16iu Humalog.

Training
Legs B
I'm looking N A S T Y

Leg press x4

Leg extension x2

Seated leg curl x3

Lying leg curl x3

SUPERSET
Calves on the leg press x6
Adductor machine x6 (this is really helping with my lower back issue, it's nearly gone now)
Abductor machine x6

Cable crunch x2

30 minutes Z2 cardio

Post
CoR made with CARAMEL milk, w/ a whole banana blended in (for texture, could barely taste it), topped w/ coco puffs and caramel syrup

Around 185g carbs, 12iu Humalog.

Sammiches

Thinking about having pizza + garlic sticks tomorrow, hmmm...

 

[Ateam2023]

Glorious progress phase 2, W1D6, 21/08/2025
Bodyweight: 79.25Kg

Woke up full to my bones today; I probably just reached full muscle saturation. Smaller weight jumps from here on, I bet.

Bit of a BIG update today, particularly as it relates to insulin use.

So I've been pretty bothered by how little insulin I can use before going hypo; it can't simply be just an insulin sensitivity issue because I had the same problem when my fasting insulin was 12 last phase.

The problem was that my body always cleared the glucose from my meal before the insulin could catch it in it's second wave, resulting in me going hypo no matter how many carbs I use.

Well, I figured it out, FINALLY.

I started taking insulin 15 minutes BEFORE my meals, and that COMPLETELY ELIMINATED the problem. In fact, I did 16ius in my pre meal today and 12ius in my post, and I could've pushed even further if I wanted.

I've done this yesterday as well and it seems that this is the answer (for me). I do know that diabetics do this, too, but it's all individual.

For reference; I would normally eat my meal and then immediately jab my Humalog. No more, lol.

Also, I'm thinking of adding a little bit of insulin to my first meal of the day (200g carbs), and last meal as well; my reasoning is that given the amount of carbs in those meals, aiding my pancreas a little bit might still result in LESS insulin resistance than letting it handle all of these carbs on its own, especially for my first meal. If I do it it'll be a relatively low dose, like 6-8 tops.

Curcumin?
I'm still suffering from terrible gas, but after some careful analysis it all started around the time I introduced curcumin, so I'm dropping it for now to see if it's the culprit.

Telmisartan
Improvement, but still not where I want to be; I figure it'll take a week or two to reach its maximum effect, so we're still ways ahead. No issues so far.

Breakfast
The usual

Delicious.

Pre

Forgot to blend my banana in with the mix, but it came out pretty yummy anyways. 16iu Humalog.

Training
Legs B
I'm looking N A S T Y

Leg press x4

Leg extension x2

Seated leg curl x3

Lying leg curl x3

SUPERSET
Calves on the leg press x6
Adductor machine x6 (this is really helping with my lower back issue, it's nearly gone now)
Abductor machine x6

Cable crunch x2

30 minutes Z2 cardio

Post
CoR made with CARAMEL milk, w/ a whole banana blended in (for texture, could barely taste it), topped w/ coco puffs and caramel syrup

Around 185g carbs, 12iu Humalog.

Sammiches

Thinking about having pizza + garlic sticks tomorrow, hmmm...

wheres the pancake recipe i cant find it, lol

 

[FuriousAngus]

Glorious progress phase 2, W2D1, 23/08/2025
Bodyweight: 79.50Kg

It's been a minute. Had some nice eats over the weekend; changed my insulin protocol, gained some more weight, and overcame gas that I've been battling for months at this point (for the most part).

Friday physique update
Looking much fuller and Jardiance is keeping me much, much drier (despite gaining a lot of weight).

Weight breakdown for week 1

Weight seems to have stabilized at 79ish, but there's probably another 1kg/2kg as a result of the new insulin protocol.

New insulin protocol going forward
Meal 1 - 6iu (partial coverage, relieve pancreatic stres)
Meal 2 (pre) - 16iu (full coverage)
Meal 3 (post) - 12iu (full coverage)
Meal 4 (post 2) - 8iu (partial coverage, relieve pancreatic stress)
Total= 42iu (compared to 16iu from the previous round)

I expect better long term insulin sensitivity following this protocol, given the amount of carbs that I'm eating (800g+), which is likely to increase further down the line.

Jardiance
Loving this drug so much I decided to look it up on this website that I use for used electronics; turns out there was this lady selling 7 unopened boxes for pennies (all 7 for a bit over a 100$), so I bought them all LOL.

Telmisartan
Seeing improvements, but still not where I want to be. Still too early to judge, though.

Friday eats
Cheddar mix pizza + garlic cheese sticks from Papa Johns

Ninja creami protein cookie dough ice cream w/ biscoff and caramel sauce

Snacks, but the fiberkinda wrecked my anus the next day

Quest to find a new gym
Went to a different gym yesterday and I absolutely hated it; the ceiling was too low made me feel claustrophobic. Going to yet another gym today that's supposedly geared better toward bodybuilding.

Yesterday meals
Breakfast

195g carbs, 6iu Humalog

@Ateam2023 I'll repost the recipe later.

Pre

185g carbs, 16iu Humalog (+75g Karbolyn intra)

No training footage because I was feeling down, but I did take a gym mirror selfie

I should start working on vacuums, I think they would look very good on me.

Post
CoR in chocolate milk, coco pops w/ Hershey's chocolate syrup. Honestly? Not my thing; I prefer white CoRs.

185g carbs, 12ius Humalog.

Sammiches

165g carbs, 8iu Humalog

ZERO signs of going hypo (tested my BG at least 20 times today, my fingers are toast). That said, the extra insulin is ramping my HR up post meals (it always did that, but now it's happening x4 a day instead of x2).

Gas culprit
100% was the curcumin phytosome supplement; I didn't want to cut it out since it was really helping with inflammation/joints, but my stomach is absolutely wrecked from the gas and it's even cause some tears in my ass and forced me to go back to taking high dosages of Daflon to prevent flare ups. It's just not worth it.

I think I farted like, twice on Friday, lol.

 

[FuriousAngus]

Glorious progress phase 2, W2D3, 25/08/2025
Bodyweight: 81.05Kg

Weight is still climbing up, probably due to the increased dose of insulin? I can see a film of water on my torso, but it's not as bad compared to my last progress phase; still no CT during sleep, etc. and I can actually do incline treadmill without crying from nasty back pumps.

I suspect I'll stabilize around 82kg, maybe. Ah well.

Telmisartan update (no update, kek)
Still barely any changes but it's too early to judge, etc...

New pinning strategy
I have decided to divide my 4ml into 6 shots split over 2 days, which puts me at 0.67ml (I use a 1ml barrel w/ a 30g 1 inch needle, complete joke) per site. Feels like TRT, lol.

I don't know why I have't done this sooner. When I pump to 1250mg/wk (next progress phase) I'll prob divide by 8 pins/4 per session.

Breakfast
Tried making bigger pancakes; turned out UGLY AS HELL

But pretty darn taste; I mixed in 1 tsp of PB powder into my 35g serving of syrup and it turned out pretty awesome. 6iu Humalog.

Pre
Favorite pre

185g carbs, 16iu Humalog.

Training
Legs A

POTENTIAL NEW GYM BOYS

This is literally where all the local IFBB pros train at; it's a great environment to be in.

Equipment is TOP NOTCH, sun light, and hardcore training. Problem? it's 1300$ (not too crazy for a gym here, my current gym is 1000$ a year) for 15 months, lol. I'll decide by tomorrow if I want to spend that kind of money; I need a change of environment, current gym is kinda depressing.

Oh, this gym is also "influence friendly", so it's pretty normal to be walking around with a tripod, etc. That said, I was the only one doing that at 1PM, lol.

Some photos I took

Legs wasn't intense, but I made sure to get a good pump/failure w/ light weights.

Leg press x2

(they have 50kg plates)

Hack squat x2

Specialized single leg press machine (forgot to film this, this machine is awesome) x2

Leg extension x2

Seated leg curl x3

Lying leg curl x3

SUPERSET
Adductor/abductor machine x6/6
Standing calf raise machine x6

Ab crunch machine x2
30 minutes Z2 cardio

Post
Same as pre, kind of (until my anus heals completely, lol)

Honey graham cereal on top, 185g carbs, 12iu Humalog.

Sammiches

Decided to switch soda for natural fresh juice (I do pomegranate and orange). 8iu Humalog.