JesterBOB
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Yes, the most popular drugs and most of all sportsmen were caught on them.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
If you were a Boxer...
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GuerillaPete
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Not in your case but in PED selection in general .
For example if tested we used 300 test prop 6-8 weeks cut it 5 days before fight ( test)
20-30mg winstrol 3-4 weeks till the day of the fight.
This was 10-15 years ago everyone did this but it could change with the testing.
Ah I understand you, I was thinking more about if we would create a Super Boxer with Inhumane amounts of strength
GuerillaPete
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Take away the steroids the best fighter would still be the best .
TrenTrenTren
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I primarily train BJJ, but I've done several rounds in the ring with headgear through the years. Every aas I've tried has limited my movement, speed, timing, etc. Maybe it helped with aggression, that's it. But aggression means nothing to a guy with good boxing. A good boxer wants you to be aggressive, because you open yourself up to every slick counter they think of.
Spot on. Exactly right.
Boxing isn't really about muscle size or steroids or being aggressive. It's just a tactical game of chess and fitness and knowing how to throw (and take) a proper punch.
Mike Tyson might disagree though ROFL
GuerillaPete
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How did aas limit your movemant and hinder your timing?
TrenTrenTren
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Made me slower...every time I was on cycle. Cardio was shit... especially on Tren.
GuerillaPete
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But did you train to be faster?
If you do bodybuilding and do bjj you wont get faster at striking .
If you have access to a heavy bag do this for 12 weeks , 5 days a week.
Hit a jab 50 times in a row than double down on them and hit another 50.Than 3 in a fast succession another 50.
Do this for jab , cross , uppercut, etc . Than do some combinations not to many 3-4 that you know well.The combinations end with power shots.
If you dont know corect punching technique you need someone to show you as you can train bad form and that is habit forming .
After 12 weeks you have trown every punch more than 10000 times .
After that tell us your speed and reaction times .
There other better compounds for this than tren but even so with low dosages your punching will be on another level.
Boxers and PED they take or took them at one point clean athletes yeah right.
Even Tyson Fury was caught using nandrolone i think and he does not look the part.
TrenTrenTren
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Oh yeah. I've trained with guys on all kinds of juice....who were much better than me at everything. Tren would make it to where I couldn't even get through a 15 minute roll anymore. Tren was the worst.
GuerillaPete
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Maybe you are getting old …
TrenTrenTren
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I am
JesterBOB
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That's right, with or without steroids, the best will still be the best.
Hard one. Endurance drugs (e.g., cardarine, epo). Test, but not massively high. Drugs that help recovery etc. I found gear helped more for grappling and not so much for striking. Like after a round I would be sooo pumped that I tense up and get slow and stiff AF. That matters a lot for boxing not so much for grappling. Punching super hard requires technique obviously and doesn't always help if nothing is landing. What people don't see coming hurts sooo much more and getting the person to walk onto the punch. Speed and timing kill! Just my 2cents
JesterBOB
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In the subject, I liked the combination of meat, speed, power and bestial anger in Mike Tyson. They say he benched more than 200 kg and paid a lot of strength training.
I think there was a rumour he used Halo a while back
JesterBOB
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Perhaps so, but there were a lot of interesting rumors around him.
Misterfister
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JesterBOB
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Can you be more specific about what these substances are, the first time I hear about such substances?
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