If all pros use higher test why you claim low test is better ?

The study was done on sedentary overweight individuals. I doubt they actually lost any fat rather they gained more “lbm” which skews the ratio of muscle/fat %. Nice try. I proof read that one years before it was even public.
Both my reply, as well as the paper, clearly talk about an inverse correlation between testosterone levels and change in fat mass. Not change in fat mass %. Moreover, while technically fulfilling the criteria for being overweight, as the average BMI was 25 kg/m2 in the 50, 125, 300 and 600 mg groups, so are bodybuilders. Their fat percentages were 15, 16, 14, and 14 %, respectively, in these groups. Finally, sedentary individuals are even more prone to gaining weight than active individuals. As such, this isn't really helping your argument. (Note that the study nowhere mentions that these individuals were sedentary. They were only asked to not undertake strength training or moderate-to-heavy endurance exercise during the study.)

Also, feel free to share any publication which came to findings opposite to this one.
 
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The guy isn't going to read that.

Incidentally, anyone that wants to really learn this should read @PeterBond book "Book on Steroids" it's one of the better ones I've read. He cites references if you want to geek out on the science and studies, but he also writes in a very readable style. Highly recommend. It's far superior to any of the VigorousSteve and More Plates More Dates clickbait podcasts out there but you actually have to spend the time reading.
Currently working on a second edition. Although it will probably take a couple of years before it's done. Updating and revising some of the existing sections, but mostly adding new stuff.
 
The study was done on sedentary overweight individuals. I doubt they actually lost any fat rather they gained more “lbm” which skews the ratio of muscle/fat %. Nice try. I proof read that one years before it was even public.
You "proof read it before it was public"? It was published in 2001. You indicate your age as 30 years old. You must have been a prodigy to review shit like that in your early childhood. Retard. o_O
 
Guys I just realized with his I'm from beverly hills offended post hes playing with us. He cant be that dumb. He legitimately trolled. Thats the only sense I can make out of this. And the op is a shill. For an ifbb pro he needs to do diet and prep plans and stop trying to start megadose threads in hopes we'll ask where can we get these g2g steroids you take so much of.
 
Mg per mg tren and deca will outperform test in terms of pure muscle gain. Test gives the illusion of more gains simply from higher water retention and glycogen. Once you introduce anabolics into your body test levels are irrelevant. A guy could have 50ng/dL test levels and still make gains with another AAS compound. People say that higher test levels aid in fat loss and conditioning but I just don’t buy it.
Yes we know those compounds are stronger bit they cant be ran without test.. and.depend9ng on dose and the individual person.. 250 test is usually not enough.. you get deca dick anxiety low libido and so on..
 
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@Exister0 go run 350 npp and 250 tren ace log it and in 4 weeks add 250 test prop.. log it
.and at 8 weeks raise.test.to 500 test prop.. log it.. let's see how.you feel in each phase and how much you gain in each phase..
On paper your theory makes sense.. But in the human body alot more things are effected then just muscle.. pros have tried everything possible to get an edge on.their competitors . If low test was better we would have already read tons of.cycle logs and so on..
Have you yourself ran a.cycle with low test other then low test and primo?
 
The guy isn't going to read that.

Incidentally, anyone that wants to really learn this should read @PeterBond book "Book on Steroids" it's one of the better ones I've read. He cites references if you want to geek out on the science and studies, but he also writes in a very readable style. Highly recommend. It's far superior to any of the VigorousSteve and More Plates More Dates clickbait podcasts out there but you actually have to spend the time reading.
Not to ride the dudes dick or anything but Steve is a long time coach with bloodwork done on hundreds of clients on cycle at different dosages so his knowledge for me is as good as any study out there.
 
The study was done on sedentary overweight individuals. I doubt they actually lost any fat rather they gained more “lbm” which skews the ratio of muscle/fat %. Nice try
Not to ride the dudes dick or anything but Steve is a long time coach with bloodwork done on hundreds of clients on cycle at different dosages so his knowledge for me is as good as any study out there.
I don’t think the bloodwork is real.
 
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Thanks for taking over, gents.
 
Just feel like it isn’t

So you just get a sick thrill out of generating negative attention?

You already got caught in a lie earlier: “I reviewed that study even before it was published.” When if that was the case you would have been 5 years old.

You clearly don’t know shit about any of this. Training. Diet. Drugs. Nothing.

And you throw out the ridiculous “I’m 6’3” and 140 pounds”.

You’re just a troll. Simple as that. You’re fucked up. Get a life. Do something positive and quit being such a piece of shit.

Crap, I’m sure you’re jerking off to this post right now. Fuck it. Have a few more good tugs you sick dumb fuck.
 
The guy isn't going to read that.

Incidentally, anyone that wants to really learn this should read @PeterBond book "Book on Steroids" it's one of the better ones I've read. He cites references if you want to geek out on the science and studies, but he also writes in a very readable style. Highly recommend. It's far superior to any of the VigorousSteve and More Plates More Dates clickbait podcasts out there but you actually have to spend the time reading.
Affordable as well, and, an easy read despite the subject matter.
 
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