I don’t understand how guys hop on earlier than age 25

[marsupial]

How do you even have the knowledge of everything at that point? Not just training but also all the aspects A-Z, including reliable sources, how the stuff works, how the ancillaries work, what to do for side effects, what to do when the cycle’s done, what to expect when the cycle’s done, what to expect during the cycle, how to hide it from friends and family, what to do about fertility, what to do when anxiety and anger increase during cycle (almost always happens), list goes on and on. And sure, you can’t ever be 100% prepared for your first cycle, but a few TikTok videos here and there really can’t tell you shit.

Reality is, most young guys are just doing it haphazardly, and maybe 1/10 will be better off for it, the other 9/10 it’ll be wash or they’ll fuck themselves up or set themselves back, so at the end of the day, survivorship bias rules all

 

[just some dude]

because iq and a lot of other important things are mainly genetic

 

[just some dude]

shit luck

 

[BigDadd7]

The less you know, the more you think you know

 

[marsupial]

Yep, good ol dunning kruger

 

[monster8912]

I mean most pros started at a young age and tons of athletes do as well. I myself wish I had hopped of on my early 20s instead of 30s. Anyone who is serious about their training will do the work necessary to gain the knowledge to properly run cycles. Not saying everyone should start young, but I dont hate on ppl who do.

 

[marsupial]

They may want to but I doubt it’s possible to acquire all that necessary knowledge by that age. Pro/college athletes and bodybuilders? Quintessence of survivorship bias

 

[marsupial]

I think mid 20s is probably ideal assuming you’ve done everything you can in terms of natty training and general research. You can benefit the most around that age and it’ll still be at least 1-2 more years of a learning curve