Hospira vs ugl BAC water for HGH (and other peptides)

splicearoma

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Is it worth using Hospira branded? Aware some may be fakes.. or is UGL ok to use. Predominantly for hgh in this case but same question applies to other peptides.
 
UGL should be fine as long as they are 0.9% BA, there are some at >2% that leads to higher and faster degradation of the peptides
 
UGL should be fine as long as they are 0.9% BA, there are some at >2% that leads to higher and faster degradation of the peptides
I guess this is the biggest problem. Had some UGL Bac water and my peptides degraded quite fast. Mostly you don’t now the BA content unless you test it.

In the end I ended up ordering hospira since i don’t want to waste my peptides anymore.

Any experience making you’re bac water on your own?

Just ordered some sterile water and Pharma grade BA. I was thinking just add BA, shaking it for good and solubility should be fine.
 
I am also curious, I’m currently out of the US so Hospira Bac Water is impossible to get in the middle east. I’m attempting to buy it through amazon cuz I’m practically force too. Unless there is better sources.

Does anyone have experiences with amazon or non-hospira bac water?

I also found this pic on reddit if it help someone out
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I am also curious, I’m currently out of the US so Hospira Bac Water is impossible to get in the middle east. I’m attempting to buy it through amazon cuz I’m practically force too. Unless there is better sources.

Does anyone have experiences with amazon or non-hospira bac water?

I also found this pic on reddit if it help someone out
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hey unrelated but did u order mast from axle labs back in august 2025 & how did it work out? i have a vial of mast E 400 i ordered on like july 29th its now turned slightly yellow was wondering if you tested with jano with the same or later batch?
 
Hospira will always be king.

Before UGL I would recommend looking into DIY. Really simple and fraction of cost. Plus you put trust in yourself and not a UGL which may cut corners.
 
I am interested in purchasing Hospira bacteriostatic water as well. Could anyone in the EU recommend a specific supplier? found a website called bacteriostaticwater.com, but I would like to verify if it is a legitimate vendor before ordering.
 
hey unrelated but did u order mast from axle labs back in august 2025 & how did it work out? i have a vial of mast E 400 i ordered on like july 29th its now turned slightly yellow was wondering if you tested with jano with the same or later batch?

I have tested the Test E and Mast E, although Janoshik switched their names and hopefully after the weekend they can fix it.

Janoshik Analytical

Janoshik Analytica

P.S. I will also be getting bloodwork in 3 weeks, after I completed 5 weeks using both compounds.
These were the janoshik reports
 
Hospira everyday of the week, $11 for 30ML. Not worth trusting those guys over. Make you're own if you really want to save the money somewhere, that way you at least know its done right.
 
Hospira water only. For sterility purposes remember bac water doesnt get rid of bacteria it just stops it from growing. The risk of using vendor or amazon is how sterile is the water there using it could have a bacteria before adding the benzyl alcohol. Also ph levels matters a lot when reconstituting peptides so using hospira you know exactly what to expect. Thirdly i have seen many vendor back water fail testing from janoshik for not even containing benzyl alcohol. I just did a group buy of hospira and have a case of 25 vials coming soon for $7.80 per vial definitely cheap enough to not even debate about using.
 
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Hospira water only. For sterility purposes remember bac water doesnt get rid of bacteria it just stops it from growing. The risk of using vendor or amazon is how sterile is the water there using it could have a bacteria before adding the benzyl alcohol. Also ph matters a lot when reconstituting peptides so knowing exactly how much benzyl alcohol is in your bac water is crucial. Thirdly i have seen many vendor back water fail testing from janoshik for not even containing benzyl alcohol. I just did a group buy of hospira and have a case of 25 vials coming soon for $7.8 definitely cheap enough to not even debate about using.

Bac water doesn't stop bacteria from growing; it just delays it by a lot.

Depending on the peptide and how fast each vial goes, using simple sterile water for injection is fine as well.
 
Bac water doesn't stop bacteria from growing; it just delays it by a lot.

Depending on the peptide and how fast each vial goes, using simple sterile water for injection is fine as well
Sorry im not into arguing semantics. But I guess I shouldn't assume everyone follows the standard Healthcare practices of using with in 28 days. (Puke emoji)
 
Hospira water only. For sterility purposes remember bac water doesnt get rid of bacteria it just stops it from growing. The risk of using vendor or amazon is how sterile is the water there using it could have a bacteria before adding the benzyl alcohol. Also ph levels matters a lot when reconstituting peptides so using hospira you know exactly what to expect. Thirdly i have seen many vendor back water fail testing from janoshik for not even containing benzyl alcohol. I just did a group buy of hospira and have a case of 25 vials coming soon for $7.80 per vial definitely cheap enough to not even debate about using.
I paid double that a week ago for 12 vials. Would love to join next group buy if there is one.
 
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