Hgh timing

[ve79]

Hey bros I got a question ? How long do you have to wait after you inject HGH before your workout or is this just bro science I've heard if you take HGH before a workout it is not affected or do I have to wait maybe an hour to hours before my workout I'm asking this because I take my GH in the morning for me it's more beneficial and my days off from work I like to go to the gym early can anybody give any insight on this question

 

[Deadpool99]

Hey bros I got a question ? How long do you have to wait after you inject HGH before your workout or is this just bro science I've heard if you take HGH before a workout it is not affected or do I have to wait maybe an hour to hours before my workout I'm asking this because I take my GH in the morning for me it's more beneficial and my days off from work I like to go to the gym early can anybody give any insight on this question

I then decided on my injection route here:
I try to make the GH peak fully before any carbs, I usually sleep deep then wake up at 11am to go to the bathroom, I usually just inject it then and go back and get an extra hour or two of sleep. By the time I wakeup, I usually work out fasted or I can essentially eat my carbs now.

After trying to dial in my GH protocol, I’m thinking of switching from subQ to IM injections.

I’ve always done subQ and waited 2 hours before eating to maximize GH’s fat-burning (lipolysis) effect. But from what I’ve seen, the difference between IM and subQ isn’t massive—IM just peaks faster.

Because of that faster peak, IM theoretically allows better timing for fat loss if you’re eating 2 hours later. With subQ, the true optimal fasting window is more like 3–4 hours, but IM should peak and clear sooner, meaning carbs are less likely to blunt the GH pulse.

On top of that, IM clears faster, so in theory it might reduce water retention and insulin resistance effects compared to subQ due to a shorter exposure window.

That’s my current thought process, and it feels like the most optimal approach right now. Curious to hear everyone’s thoughts—am I missing anything?

Edit: In the long term, both routes yield the same IGF-1 and muscle-building outcomes to my knowledge so IM is mainly a timing and comfort optimization, so I believe none are superior but this might fit my protocol and maybe others better.

 

[Matsauce6]

Thanks for summarising, mich appreciated!

 

[Deadpool99]

Thanks for summarising, mich appreciated!

Np, anytime.

 

[Laworg]

Hey bros I got a question ? How long do you have to wait after you inject HGH before your workout or is this just bro science I've heard if you take HGH before a workout it is not affected or do I have to wait maybe an hour to hours before my workout I'm asking this because I take my GH in the morning for me it's more beneficial and my days off from work I like to go to the gym early can anybody give any insight on this question

Id personally pin at night before bed and 2-3 hrs after u had carbs to avoid hyperglycemia correct me if theres a better way

 

[ve79]

Ultalabtests is cheap and will show you all the labs nearby that can take a blood draw for it. I know there are others as well,

Do you want

I then decided on my injection route here:
I try to make the GH peak fully before any carbs, I usually sleep deep then wake up at 11am to go to the bathroom, I usually just inject it then and go back and get an extra hour or two of sleep. By the time I wakeup, I usually work out fasted or I can essentially eat my carbs now.

Have you experienced more hunger? I eat my regular food such as chicken and rice but I also find myself wanting more food so I tend to eat out to get more satisfied

 

[Ghoul]

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Have you experienced more hunger? I eat my regular food such as chicken and rice but I also find myself wanting more food so I tend to eat out to get more satisfied

I’ve been on a maintainance dose of 15mg Tirz for years now, and while I don’t get sides or feel any suppression, eating what I now consider “normally” for me, my appetite may be an immovable object at this point so I really can’t say if GH (or anything else) induces more hunger.

 

[ve79]

I’ve been on a maintainance dose of 15mg Tirz for years now, and while I don’t get sides or feel any suppression, eating what I now consider “normally” for me, my appetite may be an immovable object at this point so I really can’t say if GH (or anything else) induces more hunger.

I was on triz for almost a month but I stop taking it a few months ago so I can start eating more again and since I dropped the triz I love eating but I know once I get back to my cut I'll take triz again. Triz works very well for me

 

[Ghoul]

I was on triz for almost a month but I stop taking it a few months ago so I can start eating more again and since I dropped the triz I love eating but I know once I get back to my cut I'll take triz again. Triz works very well for me

From a long term health perspective, and to minimize the potential risk of immunogenicity making it less effective with each stop/start cycle, something scientists call a “protein drug holiday”, if you can find a low enough dose that allows you to eat, taking it consistant, and titrate up when appetite suppression is needed, you’d be better off imo. Espeicially as a GH user, since the improved insulin sensitivity to counteract GH’s opposition to insulin isn’t a direct effect of GLPs, but one that builds up over time with continuous use and long term exposure conditioning your muscles to be more sensitive to insulin signaling.

 

[ve79]

From a long term health perspective, and to minimize the potential risk of immunogenicity making it less effective with each stop/start cycle, something scientists call a “protein drug holiday”, if you can find a low enough dose that allows you to eat, taking it consistant, and titrate up when appetite suppression is needed, you’d be better off imo. Espeicially as a GH user, since the improved insulin sensitivity to counteract GH’s opposition to insulin isn’t a direct effect of GLPs, but one that builds up over time with continuous use and long term exposure conditioning your muscles to be more sensitive to insulin signaling.

Makes a lot of sense brother. Nice

 

[Ghoul]

Makes a lot of sense brother. Nice

Short version that makes insulin sensitivity improvement mechanism of GLP clearer.

When insulin receptors on muscle cells and elsewhere are exposed to insulin for extended periods of time, they downregulate by withdrawing behind the cell wall. It’s TIME of exposure to insulin, not intensity of exposure that makes them become less sensitive. As insulin sensitivity goes down, insulin has to stay elevated for longer and longer for glucose to clear, which makes receptors down regulate even more. A vicious cycle. It’s why insulin sensitivity typically worsens with age. Eventually beta cells can burn out, now you can’t even produce enough insulin, and the “insulin tap” stays open longer and longer, trying to get cells to respond, sensitivity keeps worsening, and here comes diabetes.

GLPs makes beta cells release a lot more insulin than they normally would in response to blood sugar rising.

Cells get this “loud” insulin signal and quickly soak up excess glucose from blood, then insulin release quickly shuts off. So instead of a slow trickle of insulin, requiring a long time for glucose to be cleared, it’s a quick, intense pulse. This happens so fast insulin receptors don’t have time to withdraw. In fact, over time the insulin receptors interpret this as “not receiving enough insulin signal”, and respond by sticking out further, becoming more sensitive. The longer this “intense short burst” type of insulin release goes on (by staying on a GLP), the better insulin sensitivity becomes.

 

[ve79]

Short version that makes insulin sensitivity improvement mechanism of GLP clearer.

When insulin receptors on muscle cells and elsewhere are exposed to insulin for extended periods of time, they downregulate by withdrawing behind the cell wall. It’s TIME of exposure to insulin, not intensity of exposure that makes them become less sensitive. As insulin sensitivity goes down, insulin has to stay elevated for longer and longer for glucose to clear, which makes receptors down regulate even more. A vicious cycle. It’s why insulin sensitivity typically worsens with age. Eventually beta cells can burn out, now you can’t even produce enough insulin, and the “insulin tap” stays open longer and longer, trying to get cells to respond, sensitivity keeps worsening, and here comes diabetes.

GLPs makes beta cells release a lot more insulin than they normally would in response to blood sugar rising.

Cells get this “loud” insulin signal and quickly soak up excess glucose from blood, then insulin release quickly shuts off. So instead of a slow trickle of insulin, requiring a long time for glucose to be cleared, it’s a quick, intense pulse. This happens so fast insulin receptors don’t have time to withdraw. In fact, over time the insulin receptors interpret this as “not receiving enough insulin signal”, and respond by sticking out further, becoming more sensitive. The longer this “intense short burst” type of insulin release goes on (by staying on a GLP), the better insulin sensitivity becomes.

I should if just stayed on triz at 2.5mg Wich I still had a appetite then increased triz to 5mg on a cut . Damn I wish I would known . Well I guess I'll start on the low end on Monday just to have a bit of insulin sensitivity

 

[Deadpool99]

Do you want
Have you experienced more hunger? I eat my regular food such as chicken and rice but I also find myself wanting more food so I tend to eat out to get more satisfied

Tbh not rly, yes rn I'm using reta + cagri so hunger is kinda iffy.

But when I did a 10iu blast, straight up went from 0 to 10ius, didn't notice more hunger.

But tbh hunger on compounds is VERRRY subjective. I run 720mg tren and clen without any appetite suppression. I've seen people reacting opposite ways to the same compound.

Some even get insomnia from HGH, some get lethargic if injected in the morning, very individual, you'll have to test it out ur self.

 

[KOArtist]

Tbh not rly, yes rn I'm using reta + cagri so hunger is kinda iffy.

But when I did a 10iu blast, straight up went from 0 to 10ius, didn't notice more hunger.

But tbh hunger on compounds is VERRRY subjective. I run 720mg tren and clen without any appetite suppression. I've seen people reacting opposite ways to the same compound.

Some even get insomnia from HGH, some get lethargic if injected in the morning, very individual, you'll have to test it out ur self.

Holy Christ that much tren would turn my stomach inside out within a week and I couldn’t eat for shit. Kudos to you!

 

[ve79]

Tbh not rly, yes rn I'm using reta + cagri so hunger is kinda iffy.

But when I did a 10iu blast, straight up went from 0 to 10ius, didn't notice more hunger.

But tbh hunger on compounds is VERRRY subjective. I run 720mg tren and clen without any appetite suppression. I've seen people reacting opposite ways to the same compound.

Some even get insomnia from HGH, some get lethargic if injected in the morning, very individual, you'll have to test it out ur self.

Interesting. Right now the thing that's bothering me the most is the numbness in my hands it hurts to make a fist also my elbows hurt a bit

 

[Deadpool99]

Interesting. Right now the thing that's bothering me the most is the numbness in my hands it hurts to make a fist also my elbows hurt a bit

Thankfully I don’t rly get any sides from any compounds I take. My superpower is being able to be wreckless and have perfect bloodwork.

I guess splitting it might help, but maybe a dose AM and another mid-day, cuz I “think” pre bed dosing causes edema pooling.

Ofc reducing the dose and trying to build it back up slowly would solve it but you probably knew that.

Diuretics and Electrolyte management may help too.

If ur electrolytes aren’t optimal u get a fair amount of edema.

 

[ve79]

Thankfully I don’t rly get any sides from any compounds I take. My superpower is being able to be wreckless and have perfect bloodwork.

I guess splitting it might help, but maybe a dose AM and another mid-day, cuz I “think” pre bed dosing causes edema pooling.

Ofc reducing the dose and trying to build it back up slowly would solve it but you probably knew that.

Diuretics and Electrolyte management may help too.

If ur electrolytes aren’t optimal u get a fair amount of edema.

Yea I'm just going to stop for 2.days and maybe stay at 2ius . I'm at 3 and it's gotten unbearable. I do swell.uo in the off because I take in more carbs and deca always makes me retain fluid but Deca has always been great for me in the off season.

 

[ve79]

Thankfully I don’t rly get any sides from any compounds I take. My superpower is being able to be wreckless and have perfect bloodwork.

I guess splitting it might help, but maybe a dose AM and another mid-day, cuz I “think” pre bed dosing causes edema pooling.

Ofc reducing the dose and trying to build it back up slowly would solve it but you probably knew that.

Diuretics and Electrolyte management may help too.

If ur electrolytes aren’t optimal u get a fair amount of edema.

I have AIs on hand

 

[Deadpool99]

I have AIs on hand

If water retention is due to food/deca/HGH

Don’t use an AI, idk if you mentioned it as a possible solution. You’ll just tank ur E2, make ur joints worse, and still have edema.

Unless bloodwork calls for it.

You did mention Deca and water retention from deca is not resolved by an AI.

 

[ve79]

If water retention is due to food/deca/HGH

Don’t use an AI, idk if you mentioned it as a possible solution. You’ll just tank ur E2, make ur joints worse, and still have edema.

Unless bloodwork calls for it.

You did mention Deca and water retention from deca is not resolved by an AI.

Yes but I always convert high esteragen when I take more than 200mg of test but I am due for blood work in the next week or 2