hgh cycle. greytops.

[XKawN]

Starting my first ever run with gh today. Runnin test prop right now at 150mg eod. I need to get something for blood pressure. Was runnin eq a few weeks ago and had to stop because my blood pressure skyrocketed. My protocol I'm thinking working up to 2 iu in the am and 3 iu a few hours before workout on workout days and non workout days runnin 2iu in am and 2iu before bed. Any thoughts on protocol and what to take for blood pressure? Also, I'll be going low carb. Been doing a low carb diet for a few months, but slacked off for a few weeks now. So far I pinned 1 iu this morning and just pinned another iu a few minutes ago and will be lifting in about an hour and a half from now. Goals are overall body recomp and health/wellness. Been back working out for a few months now after a few years off. Experienced with aas and training/diet just never ran gh so looking for gh info and blood pressure suggestions. Thanks.

 

[Dr JIM]

Have you been evaluated by your doc for this BP problem? If so what treatment was rendered and was it effective?

 

[Colt44]

I'd stay pretty low on your gh dosage until you've seen how your body reacts. Too much too soon can lead to adverse side effects. You may also respond well to a lower dosage, which will save you money in the long run. Just my 2 cents

 

[Dr JIM]

I'd stay pretty low on your gh dosage until you've seen how your body reacts. Too much too soon can lead to adverse side effects. You may also respond well to a lower dosage, which will save you money in the long run. Just my 2 cents

'And to that end since you just don't know what the concentration of "generic GH" is, I'd strongly suggest you START at no more than ONE IU / DAY!

 

[roastdawg]

Telemisartan for bp if you're set on doing meds. Best bet is to lower doseage, up cardio, and lower sodium intake.

 

[Dr JIM]

While I agree ARBs such as Telemisartan are effective agents for BP control, I do not believe it's wise for patients to initiate such therapy, absent the advice and/or direction of a physician.

Why for several reasons, but first and foremost is the possibility of a correctable causation such as renal artery stenosis. Moreover patients whom are diagnosed with idiopathic HTN require BASELINE renal and cardiac function studies to determine if therapy is effective in diminishing the well established complications of this disease.

 

[XKawN]

Sorry, just got back from the gym. Iost my healthcare coverage due to job change but will have it again in about a month or two. My blood pressure was fine before I started the eq and my doc prescribed me a diuretic (12.5mg of hydrochlorothiazide which is a very low dose) and then I lost my coverage. The hydrochlorothiazide helped a very small amount, but I dropped the eq and now I'm at about 125/80.was just looking to run something while on cycle.

 

[XKawN]

P.s. thanks for the replies

 

[XKawN]

Oh, also I should mention my bp was bouncing around at the time. The high was 160/99 and was bouncing from about 145/85 while on eq.

 

[Dr JIM]

What was your BP when running the EQ?

Perhaps the best approach is to ensure your E-2 level sits around the 20 pg/ml range by using an AI. I say that bc an elevated E-2 quite often results in volume expansion, mediated thru the effects of ADH, the latter being modulated thru the use of diuretics.

So what I'm saying is, TREAT the most likely may cause of your elevated BP, a rise of E-2

Oh and FYI, dosing HCTZ at more than 25mg/day may result in significant hypokalemia (lowered potassium level)

 

[XKawN]

Hey, thanks doc. I actually thought about jumping on some adex, but I thought adex hinders the results of the gh? I'll definitely get bloods drawn asap. And the post above yours is where I was at while on the eq. I had no sides indicating high blood pressure, but yet it was still high.

 

[Dr JIM]

While there may be some theoretic concerns about whether AI's may influence GH production this issue is NOT borne out clinically since studies to date, conducted on children with growth retardation, reveal a synergistic effect of combined AI and GH therapy.

The bottom line, AI's do NOT significantly hamper GH secretion.

 

[heady muscle]

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[Mehoff22]

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Starting my first ever run with gh today. Runnin test prop right now at 150mg eod. I need to get something for blood pressure. Was runnin eq a few weeks ago and had to stop because my blood pressure skyrocketed. My protocol I'm thinking working up to 2 iu in the am and 3 iu a few hours before workout on workout days and non workout days runnin 2iu in am and 2iu before bed. Any thoughts on protocol and what to take for blood pressure? Also, I'll be going low carb. Been doing a low carb diet for a few months, but slacked off for a few weeks now. So far I pinned 1 iu this morning and just pinned another iu a few minutes ago and will be lifting in about an hour and a half from now. Goals are overall body recomp and health/wellness. Been back working out for a few months now after a few years off. Experienced with aas and training/diet just never ran gh so looking for gh info and blood pressure suggestions. Thanks.

Are you still running the hGH cycle now? I'm Curious to how you like the grey tops

 

[XKawN]

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Are you still running the hGH cycle now? I'm Curious to how you like the grey tops

very happy with them. Gave a bit of an update a few posts back. I was gonna change up my cycle a few days ago, but got sick so actually I didn't use any supplements in the past 3 days. Today I did one pulse of peps followed by 2 iu of gh along with 75mg tren ace and 25mg test prop. I'll use the mk677 and igf-1 lr3 tonight at 20mg and 50mcg. Tomorrow I'll start working out again. Gonna run the hex, cjc no dac, gh, mk677, tren and prop, igf-1 lr3 t4, exemestane etc, for another about 7 weeks then I'll just go prop, gh and exemestane for a while and cut. Bulking up right now. Anyways, the Grey tops are definitely g2g and the provider is a very trusted supplier.

 

[XKawN]

Sorry, didn't realize I was in a different thread. Towards the end of the Grey tops thread I gave a bit of a review.

 

[Mehoff22]

Nice man well good luck with it, I'm definitely wanting to try these out. I know you said they were TP grey tops... Is that the provider?

 

[XKawN]

That is his name. If you ever try him then you must know the guy does not talk much at all. Like if you text you'd like to place an order hell reply with how to send funds. Then you send funds and he may or may not acknowledge that he received the funds, but one day you get a pack. He's not a source for folks that need their hand held. When I sent my funds I was lucky that he sent me a reply with one letter.... k, lol.

 

[Mehoff22]

So straight forward then haha.
Well what do I need to do to get ahold of him.. I've tried searching and that name only comes up, no info on prices or how to

 

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