Helion Labs (Canadian Domestic)

[thejoker]

Janoshik tests as promised.

We will be getting a new supplier for Reta and Tirz as well as reducing our price as it is not close to what we are selling as.

Some of our orals also came in under and too much of a variance. It is a bit odd since we always overdose the raws by 10%+ and run most of them in a V blender for hours. It could be from low quality raws or too much of a variance of tablet sizes. We send in all raws to GetYourDrugsTested but they are only accurate within 5%. We may start sending in all raws to Jano to account for this.

We try to be transparent as possible and will send in further batches for testing.


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When powders are mixed, they reach a point of optimal uniformity after a certain time. If mixing continues beyond this optimal mix point, the blend can actually become worse, a phenomenon called over-mixing or segregation (demixing). This happens because differences in particle size/density cause the components of the mix to separate again, leading to poor API and excipient uniformity. That’s why mixing for time intervals and then testing the tablet at each interval (10 min, 20 min, 30 min etc.) is the best way to find the sweet spot for mix time. That is however extremely time consuming and expensive as you extrapolate that across dozens of products and then factor in some raw batches even for the same compound can have different density depending on the factory production method. Real Pharmaceutical companies have the resources for this, not UGLs.

I’m surprised your number 1 custy and industry expert @william23kelly didn’t let you know about this.

 

[unclebob]

When powders are mixed, they reach a point of optimal uniformity after a certain time. If mixing continues beyond this optimal mix point, the blend can actually become worse, a phenomenon called over-mixing or segregation (demixing). This happens because differences in particle size/density cause the components of the mix to separate again, leading to poor API and excipient uniformity. That’s why mixing for time intervals and then testing the tablet at each interval (10 min, 20 min, 30 min etc.) is the best way to find the sweet spot for mix time. That is however extremely time consuming and expensive as you extrapolate that across dozens of products and then factor in some raw batches even for the same compound can have different density depending on the factory production method. Real Pharmaceutical companies have the resources for this, not UGLs.

I’m surprised your number 1 custy and industry expert @william23kelly didn’t let you know about this.

Google AI lol?

 

[thejoker]

Google AI lol?

Google AI lol?

No it wasn’t Google AI but even it was who cares? The point is over mixing your raws (APIs) and excipients is an issue which Helion clearly did not understand.

 

[helionlabs]

When powders are mixed, they reach a point of optimal uniformity after a certain time. If mixing continues beyond this optimal mix point, the blend can actually become worse, a phenomenon called over-mixing or segregation (demixing). This happens because differences in particle size/density cause the components of the mix to separate again, leading to poor API and excipient uniformity. That’s why mixing for time intervals and then testing the tablet at each interval (10 min, 20 min, 30 min etc.) is the best way to find the sweet spot for mix time. That is however extremely time consuming and expensive as you extrapolate that across dozens of products and then factor in some raw batches even for the same compound can have different density depending on the factory production method. Real Pharmaceutical companies have the resources for this, not UGLs.

I’m surprised your number 1 custy and industry expert @william23kelly didn’t let you know about this.

We really appreciate this. We will admit we are new to pressing tablets and there will be a learning curve to it. Again, we are committed to being as transparent as possible even if it makes us look not the best.

 

[unclebob]

Again, we are committed to being as transparent as possible even if it makes us look not the best.

Says the guy who tried to pawn off his test results on a free drug testing service that only does identification testing AND DOES NOT DO PURITY TESTING like Jano does!

 

[verb]

Says the guy who tried to pawn off his test results on a free drug testing service that only does identification testing AND DOES NOT DO PURITY TESTING like Jano does!

I’m glad you enjoy repeating yourself

 

[unclebob]

I’m glad you enjoy repeating yourself

So you support sources who outright lie?

 

[unclebob]

@helionlabs

How long till you start posting test results for the rest of your orals?

 

[justtrtbro]

So you support sources who outright lie?

No dog in this fight mate, just asking out of curiosity as I considered ordering here a while back - where did they lie? I believe they may have suggested GYDT did purity testing by conflating the 5% i minimum inclusion for detection for....the error often associated in purity tests? Just wondering!

 

[dizzleskiiiii]

I ordered test-cyp and m-tren, but due to low stock the supplier substituted a vial of EQ. I’m prepping for a show on roughly 1000 mg test, 600 mg EQ and 2 mg m-tren. I haven’t had bloodwork yet, but with calories reduced and cardio increased I’m maintaining 270 lb at about 9–10% body fat, so the changes are noticeable. I’ll share photos seven weeks after the show. So far I prefer injectable m-tren it appears to deliver the visual benefits I want without many of the side effects I experienced with conventional tren, though I am concerned about its strain on my organs but what can you do.

They respond fast and delivery was quick, no complaints from me and the prices are very reasonable.

How long did delivery take?

 

[joeblow543212]

I've gotten my few orders from helion in 4-5 business days.

 

[justtrtbro]

That's pretty good. The price is excellent for a group which tests.

 

[dizzleskiiiii]

You guys still shipping with the Canada post strike?

 

[helionlabs]

You guys still shipping with the Canada post strike?

Finding alternative courier.

We did ship with ChitChats during the last strike but they opened up a package and then seized all of the orders in transit and banned us due to violating their TOS. Sucks because they were faster than Canada Post

 

[littlebicepsbigdick]

Finding alternative courier.

We did ship with ChitChats during the last strike but they opened up a package and then seized all of the orders in transit and banned us due to violating their TOS. Sucks because they were faster than Canada Post

Are they allowed to randomly do that or did they have reasonable grounds to do so?

 

[littlebicepsbigdick]

Also @helionlabs is your current Tren E batch the same that was Jano tested on the website at 268mg/ml or is this a new batch?

 

[helionlabs]

Are they allowed to randomly do that or did they have reasonable grounds to do so?

Unsure. Regardless we would like to use a different courier just in case.

Also @helionlabs is your current Tren E batch the same that was Jano tested on the website at 268mg/ml or is this a new batch?

New batch. Same batch of raws and same formula as the the last batch though.

 

[verb]

Are they allowed to randomly do that or did they have reasonable grounds to do so?

They’re not a government org so they probably reserve the right in their ToS. It’s a liability mitigation strategy

 

[helionlabs]

We decided to chance it with ChitChats and Stallion Express. Orders may take a bit longer to get sent out. In the event an order gets seized we will reship.

 

[Beginnerweak]

Do you have accutane / isotretinoin available ?

Thank you.