Fruit and fat gain

[1tank1]

I tend to eat 1 apple and 1 banana every couple days. Banana more often than apples, but I eat blueberries the most (more on that below).

I go for the honeycrisp apples, personally. I don't like sour stuff much. The honeycrisp is a nice blend of acidic and sour and sweet. They're cheap near me, all locally grown and organic. I'm lucky to have so much food diversity nearby--they were expensive as SHIT up north even though there were apple orchards all over (the orchard ones were good but they're only available a short period of time).

Sometimes we'll get grapes, but not often due to the sugar. We grow cantaloupe and eat a decent number of those in the summer. We also grow wild strawberries (alpine and some other species, would have to ask my lady she's in charge of the food growing 'round here) and eat a handful of those daily. Fucking a those strawberries are so good. So much better than the ones at the store. They're tiny little things but they're everbearing so they literally produce about two handfuls of strawberries every single day for about 9 months out of the year where I live in the southeast mountains.
We also have several blackberry and raspberry plants that produce a decent amount when they produce, but the harvest is fairly short lived compared to our other fruit plants.

In two years our blueberry bushes (AKA "bloobs" as I like to call them) will be producing. Should get about 50-70 pounds of blueberries.

For now I eat some store bought frozen bloobs basically every day, about a quarter cup with oatmeal or in cereal (I always add whey to my oats and cereal and sometimes hydrolyzed collagen).

I love watermelon too but it tends to bother my stomach, probably because I eat too much of it.

Sometimes I will eat frozen mango with my greek yogurt. But in the US mango just isn't that great. Especially the frozen stuff that's frozen before it's actually ripe which is usually the case, so that's rare. I'll get it if it's on sale and a bag or two will last a long time. More often I use bloobs. As you can tell I love me some nice bloobs.

I personally like pineapple a lot too. I don't buy it often though. I fucking LOOVE putting pineapple in things like zucchini bread or carrot cake--it adds a really nice sweetness to it and moisture.

Anyway. That's my fruit story. I don't notice any negative effects on digestion, unless I eat too much melon. That causes gas and stomach upset. I still take digestive enzymes though

Edit: I'm not just eating fruit alone obviously. It's mixed in with protein and fats and carbs. As Mac11 said when you eat a meal the glycemic index of that meal is essentially blunted by the slower digesting foods. Like if you eat eggs and jam, or egg noodles, the glycemic response is totally different than eating jam alone, or plain wheat noodles. I like apple and banana with peanut butter or in oatmeal or the latter in cereal with whey.

I enjoyed reading that response.

Agree 100% about wild strawbs. They actually taste of strawberry whereas the bigger ones in stores just taste like chemicals and water.

Moving off topic slightly....but the same can be said about salmon vs wild salmon or chicken vs free range chicken. Totally different flavours.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

I’ve read about this before but it’s been a long time. Can you share any sources of info on this? I’m very interested/curious

Grapefruit interacts with intestinal enzyme CYP3A4 (also referred to as P450) which reduces the amount of drug metabolized increasing the amount of drug making it to the bloodstream.

The medical world treats this as a negative, my take is there’s a possibility to use less gear while being just as or more effective (in my experience).

Pro tip: I am not a physician and as such as not giving you advice on trying to effect your CYP3A4 enzyme as it is an important one. I am not on any other prescription medication. You should investigate prior to experimenting at a minimum.

Drug Interactions with CYP3A4: An Update | Pharmacy Times

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[MFAAS]

I enjoyed reading that response.

Agree 100% about wild strawbs. They actually taste of strawberry whereas the bigger ones in stores just taste like chemicals and water.

Moving off topic slightly....but the same can be said about salmon vs wild salmon or chicken vs free range chicken. Totally different flavours.

Thanks man! Glad to hear you know of the beauty of wold strawbs. Of everyone I know we are the only people who grow wild strawberries. I think that'll change now though as I've introduced some neighbors to them who were floored. They're naturally super disease resistant (important for us in a temperate rainforest) and like I said, everbearing fruit?! Fucking awesome!

I just slaughtered and we baked a beautiful whole chicken yesterday in a Dutch oven with carrots, celery, and onion, then potatoes on top (gotta keep empty above the delicious broth down below or they get mushy).

Literally the best chicken you've ever eaten. My girl needs to get her Michelin star haha. I'm sure our happy chickens make a big difference too. God damn they are spoiled. I love them. It was sad to kill her but she's lived a good life and sadly egg laying was through. She didn't even know was hit her. I'll admit it was my first slaughter of a "pet" chicken (I do consider them pets, I give them treats and pet them, they're sweet and funny girls), I teared up as I did it. But this is how we're meant to live IMO. The US decided that keeping chickens was associated with poverty and getting meat from the butcher was classier, so largely disappeared home slaughtered meat and everyone got overly sensitive to killing for food. It's crazy it only took like 2 generations.

Just like wild venison from a mountain deer is infinitely better than store bought venison (and I'll say the CWD ridden deer up north midwest that gorge on food plots laid out by assholes who bait and feed to attract deer to their property because they're lazy fucks who don't want to ACTUALLY hunt, just sit Ina. Tree stand and get drunk and hope for the best when them and 5 other guys nearby all try to shoot the same deer). I've been seeing so many deer on my hikes lately. I walk on the trail and they just look at me. Super excited for bowhunting season. Anyway I'm rambling but at least it's semi-on topic haha.

Grapefruit interacts with intestinal enzyme CYP3A4 (also referred to as P450) which reduces the amount of drug metabolized increasing the amount of drug making it to the bloodstream.

The medical world treats this as a negative, my take is there’s a possibility to use less gear while being just as or more effective (in my experience).

Pro tip: I am not a physician and as such as not giving you advice on trying to effect your CYP3A4 enzyme as it is an important one. I am not on any other prescription medication. You should investigate prior to experimenting at a minimum.

Drug Interactions with CYP3A4: An Update | Pharmacy Times

Pharmacy Times offers the latest news and insights for the pharmacy professional and solutions that impact the everyday practice of pharmacy.

www.pharmacytimes.com

Hey @Mac11wildcat I may be able to help here having been a pharmcology nerd for quite a long time.

I don't believe that CYP3A4 inhibitors such as (white) grapefruit juice (specifically white) will slow down the metabolism of testosterone. If you look at the enzymes involved, there are only two enzymes which I can find that metabolize testosterone, that is CYP19 (aka aromatase), and 5α-reductase which forms test into DHT.

CYP3A4 is a very common metabolic pathway for many oral drugs, and MAY be involved with the metabolism of other injectible or oral steroids (I don't know offhand, but could do some research), but testosterone isn't one of them I am afraid. The only way to slow down metabolism of test is to take aromatase inhibitors (which inhibit CYP19) or finasteride (which inhibits 5alpha-reductase).



As I said, WGFJ could be relevant for other steroids though. I'm interested so when I have time this weekend I'll peek into it and post back what I find. Perhaps it is worthy of its own thread if the findings are promising enough!

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Thanks man! Glad to hear you know of the beauty of wold strawbs. Of everyone I know we are the only people who grow wild strawberries. I think that'll change now though as I've introduced some neighbors to them who were floored. They're naturally super disease resistant (important for us in a temperate rainforest) and like I said, everbearing fruit?! Fucking awesome!

I just slaughtered and we baked a beautiful whole chicken yesterday in a Dutch oven with carrots, celery, and onion, then potatoes on top (gotta keep empty above the delicious broth down below or they get mushy).

Literally the best chicken you've ever eaten. My girl needs to get her Michelin star haha. I'm sure our happy chickens make a big difference too. God damn they are spoiled. I love them. It was sad to kill her but she's lived a good life and sadly egg laying was through. She didn't even know was hit her. I'll admit it was my first slaughter of a "pet" chicken (I do consider them pets, I give them treats and pet them, they're sweet and funny girls), I teared up as I did it. But this is how we're meant to live IMO. The US decided that keeping chickens was associated with poverty and getting meat from the butcher was classier, so largely disappeared home slaughtered meat and everyone got overly sensitive to killing for food. It's crazy it only took like 2 generations.

Just like wild venison from a mountain deer is infinitely better than store bought venison (and I'll say the CWD ridden deer up north midwest that gorge on food plots laid out by assholes who bait and feed to attract deer to their property because they're lazy fucks who don't want to ACTUALLY hunt, just sit Ina. Tree stand and get drunk and hope for the best when them and 5 other guys nearby all try to shoot the same deer). I've been seeing so many deer on my hikes lately. I walk on the trail and they just look at me. Super excited for bowhunting season. Anyway I'm rambling but at least it's semi-on topic haha.



Hey @Mac11wildcat I may be able to help here having been a pharmcology nerd for quite a long time.

I don't believe that CYP3A4 inhibitors such as (white) grapefruit juice (specifically white) will slow down the metabolism of testosterone. If you look at the enzymes involved, there are only two enzymes which I can find that metabolize testosterone, that is CYP19 (aka aromatase), and 5α-reductase which forms test into DHT.

CYP3A4 is a very common metabolic pathway for many oral drugs, and MAY be involved with the metabolism of other injectible or oral steroids (I don't know offhand, but could do some research), but testosterone isn't one of them I am afraid. The only way to slow down metabolism of test is to take aromatase inhibitors (which inhibit CYP19) or finasteride (which inhibits 5alpha-reductase).

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As I said, WGFJ could be relevant for other steroids though. I'm interested so when I have time this weekend I'll peek into it and post back what I find. Perhaps it is worthy of its own thread if the findings are promising enough!

Think orals, not test. Anecdotally, I saw smaller anavar, primo ace, and winny doses have uncharacteristic effects when grapefruit juice was at 16oz a day. Again, not medical advice folks.

 

[GuerillaPete]

Thanks man! Glad to hear you know of the beauty of wold strawbs. Of everyone I know we are the only people who grow wild strawberries. I think that'll change now though as I've introduced some neighbors to them who were floored. They're naturally super disease resistant (important for us in a temperate rainforest) and like I said, everbearing fruit?! Fucking awesome!

I just slaughtered and we baked a beautiful whole chicken yesterday in a Dutch oven with carrots, celery, and onion, then potatoes on top (gotta keep empty above the delicious broth down below or they get mushy).

Literally the best chicken you've ever eaten. My girl needs to get her Michelin star haha. I'm sure our happy chickens make a big difference too. God damn they are spoiled. I love them. It was sad to kill her but she's lived a good life and sadly egg laying was through. She didn't even know was hit her. I'll admit it was my first slaughter of a "pet" chicken (I do consider them pets, I give them treats and pet them, they're sweet and funny girls), I teared up as I did it. But this is how we're meant to live IMO. The US decided that keeping chickens was associated with poverty and getting meat from the butcher was classier, so largely disappeared home slaughtered meat and everyone got overly sensitive to killing for food. It's crazy it only took like 2 generations.

Just like wild venison from a mountain deer is infinitely better than store bought venison (and I'll say the CWD ridden deer up north midwest that gorge on food plots laid out by assholes who bait and feed to attract deer to their property because they're lazy fucks who don't want to ACTUALLY hunt, just sit Ina. Tree stand and get drunk and hope for the best when them and 5 other guys nearby all try to shoot the same deer). I've been seeing so many deer on my hikes lately. I walk on the trail and they just look at me. Super excited for bowhunting season. Anyway I'm rambling but at least it's semi-on topic haha.



Hey @Mac11wildcat I may be able to help here having been a pharmcology nerd for quite a long time.

I don't believe that CYP3A4 inhibitors such as (white) grapefruit juice (specifically white) will slow down the metabolism of testosterone. If you look at the enzymes involved, there are only two enzymes which I can find that metabolize testosterone, that is CYP19 (aka aromatase), and 5α-reductase which forms test into DHT.

CYP3A4 is a very common metabolic pathway for many oral drugs, and MAY be involved with the metabolism of other injectible or oral steroids (I don't know offhand, but could do some research), but testosterone isn't one of them I am afraid. The only way to slow down metabolism of test is to take aromatase inhibitors (which inhibit CYP19) or finasteride (which inhibits 5alpha-reductase).

View attachment 171626

As I said, WGFJ could be relevant for other steroids though. I'm interested so when I have time this weekend I'll peek into it and post back what I find. Perhaps it is worthy of its own thread if the findings are promising enough!

Wild strawberries are awesome i pick them from the wild when in season .
Store bought chicken where i live is full of water that evaporates as you cock it .
Home raised chicken meat has a different texture.
With the lockdown and the fear of food shortages pushed me to grow my own and i like it a lot .

 

[Mac11wildcat]

evaporates as you cock it

Have you tried not touching the chicken with your dick?

 

[GuerillaPete]

Have you tried not touching the chicken with your dick?

No not really you got me.

 

[1tank1]

Thanks man! Glad to hear you know of the beauty of wold strawbs. Of everyone I know we are the only people who grow wild strawberries. I think that'll change now though as I've introduced some neighbors to them who were floored. They're naturally super disease resistant (important for us in a temperate rainforest) and like I said, everbearing fruit?! Fucking awesome!

I just slaughtered and we baked a beautiful whole chicken yesterday in a Dutch oven with carrots, celery, and onion, then potatoes on top (gotta keep empty above the delicious broth down below or they get mushy).

Literally the best chicken you've ever eaten. My girl needs to get her Michelin star haha. I'm sure our happy chickens make a big difference too. God damn they are spoiled. I love them. It was sad to kill her but she's lived a good life and sadly egg laying was through. She didn't even know was hit her. I'll admit it was my first slaughter of a "pet" chicken (I do consider them pets, I give them treats and pet them, they're sweet and funny girls), I teared up as I did it. But this is how we're meant to live IMO. The US decided that keeping chickens was associated with poverty and getting meat from the butcher was classier, so largely disappeared home slaughtered meat and everyone got overly sensitive to killing for food. It's crazy it only took like 2 generations.

Just like wild venison from a mountain deer is infinitely better than store bought venison (and I'll say the CWD ridden deer up north midwest that gorge on food plots laid out by assholes who bait and feed to attract deer to their property because they're lazy fucks who don't want to ACTUALLY hunt, just sit Ina. Tree stand and get drunk and hope for the best when them and 5 other guys nearby all try to shoot the same deer). I've been seeing so many deer on my hikes lately. I walk on the trail and they just look at me. Super excited for bowhunting season. Anyway I'm rambling but at least it's semi-on topic haha.

I spent 20 years working in fine dining kitchens bro so I know all about the big difference in flavour from quality/natural fresh produce.

I've never hunted or slaughtered an animal myself though coz that's not legal here and I don't think I could kill and gut an animal anyway.... but I'm okay dealing with the carcass of a dead animal after it has been hung/gutted/drained/cleaned.

If someone gave me a whole side of beef I'd be able to prep all the cuts easily and create numerous fantastic meals but if someone gave me a freshly killed dead cow I'd just look at it and feel sorry for it and I'd never be able to do anything with it apart from bury it.

 

[1tank1]

Sometimes I will eat frozen mango with my greek yogurt.

Getting back on topic (relative to my bloating problem) mixing fresh fruit with yoghurt is also something that has been playing on my mind lately.

If you put citric acid into milk (lemon juice for example), the milk curdles, and that's essentially the same as eating fresh fruit with natural yoghurt so that's what will happen in your stomach.

I've been eating fresh pineapple with greek yoghurt and uncooked rolled oats daily (hence my other post about food combining that nobody here seems to understand) and I think it's causing me to bloat/distend in the stomach due to digestion issues.

 

[Inspired]

Getting back on topic (relative to my bloating problem) mixing fresh fruit with yoghurt is also something that has been playing on my mind lately.

If you put citric acid into milk (lemon juice for example), the milk curdles, and that's essentially the same as eating fresh fruit with natural yoghurt so that's what will happen in your stomach.

I've been eating fresh pineapple with greek yoghurt and uncooked rolled oats daily (hence my other post about food combining that nobody here seems to understand) and I think it's causing me to bloat/distend in the stomach due to digestion issues.

The problem is the oats.

 

[MFAAS]

I spent 20 years working in fine dining kitchens bro so I know all about the big difference in flavour from quality/natural fresh produce.

I've never hunted or slaughtered an animal myself though coz that's not legal here and I don't think I could kill and gut an animal anyway.... but I'm okay dealing with the carcass of a dead animal after it has been hung/gutted/drained/cleaned.

If someone gave me a whole side of beef I'd be able to prep all the cuts easily and create numerous fantastic meals but if someone gave me a freshly killed dead cow I'd just look at it and feel sorry for it and I'd never be able to do anything with it apart from bury it.

Yeah it was hard emotionally. I love animals deeply, but I want to live true to my values and I feel one of the most important thing thay people need to try to do is NOT be a hypocrite. I SAY that this is the way humans are meant to live. Might I change my mind? Perhaps, idk. But I am gonna give it a wholehearted try. I just refuse to be one who doesn't live as I say. Hypocrisy is such a huge problem in modern society, I will do what I can not to be one.

I couldn't kill a cow, personally. I can shoot a deer from 100 yards but I couldn't kill a cow. Cows have too much intelligence in their eyes and they are sweet animals. I also couldn't kill a hog. I RARELY ever eat beef for thay reason and I almost never eat pork. Only exception is some pepperoni on our homemade sourdough goat cheese pizzas.

Here's a pic of that bird after cooking (her name was Matilda).



Had some leftovers for dinner tonight too. Almost gone. Then we will make broth out of the carcass and some of the organs. The other organs go to my dog for his homemade food.

The problem is the oats.

I agree uncooked oats is a bad idea. @1tank1 you should cook them.

Think orals, not test. Anecdotally, I saw smaller anavar, primo ace, and winny doses have uncharacteristic effects when grapefruit juice was at 16oz a day. Again, not medical advice folks.

This wouldn't surprise me. For some reason I thought youbwere specifically mentioning test, idk why though looking back. I'll look into the biotransformation of these substances (and others) to confirn. I think formatting the data I find into a table could be very nice. There are various ways to inhibit various enzymes (primarily CYPxxx enzymes) so that will be taken into consideration as well.


Edit: I was one of those kids who didn't like the fox and the hound or Bambi because the animal died. I grew up with a dog and a cat and I just was so upset by it. Same with all dogs go to heaven lol. So sensitive. I started out rabbit hunting then moved up to deer. Anyone can do it but you have to have a specific mindset and steel your heart if you didnt grow up doing it.

 

[1tank1]

I agree uncooked oats is a bad idea. @1tank1 you should cook them.

Is there a reason why you think uncooked rolled oats are a bad idea and does the reason apply to "all" oats (powdered etc).

The only time I've ever cooked oats is when I wanted a bowl of hot porridge in winter. Any other time I either eat them raw or I soak the ground/powdered stuff overnight in the fridge for a shake with milk or water.

 

[GuerillaPete]

Is there a reason why you think uncooked rolled oats are a bad idea and does the reason apply to "all" oats (powdered etc).

The only time I've ever cooked oats is when I wanted a bowl of hot porridge in winter. Any other time I either eat them raw or I soak the ground/powdered stuff overnight in the fridge for a shake with milk or water.

I do the same with oats and never had problems .

 

[MFAAS]

Is there a reason why you think uncooked rolled oats are a bad idea and does the reason apply to "all" oats (powdered etc).

The only time I've ever cooked oats is when I wanted a bowl of hot porridge in winter. Any other time I either eat them raw or I soak the ground/powdered stuff overnight in the fridge for a shake with milk or water.

Yes--because rolled oats are very high in fiber, both soluble and insoluble (its about 50/50) and cooking helps to begin breaking down some of that fiber.

Overnight oats is fine, soaking them will also help ease digestion, I have done overnight boats without any probs.

But raw uncooked rolled oats will almost certainly cause some indigestion just vexause our stomachs will struggle to break them down well enough, and then the leftovers will ferment in the gut, causing gas and bloating. Try cooking them for 4 or 5 days, I would be floored if your stomach wasn't feel better by the end of it.

 

[theotherguy]

Getting back on topic (relative to my bloating problem) mixing fresh fruit with yoghurt is also something that has been playing on my mind lately.

If you put citric acid into milk (lemon juice for example), the milk curdles, and that's essentially the same as eating fresh fruit with natural yoghurt so that's what will happen in your stomach.

I've been eating fresh pineapple with greek yoghurt and uncooked rolled oats daily (hence my other post about food combining that nobody here seems to understand) and I think it's causing me to bloat/distend in the stomach due to digestion issues.

But there’s other acids and chemical reactions going on in your stomach and gut, I cannot say for sure, but I don’t believe it would be the same as just putting citric acid into yogurt and it just curdling.

I’m certainly open to being corrected though

 

[MFAAS]

Is there a reason why you think uncooked rolled oats are a bad idea and does the reason apply to "all" oats (powdered etc).

The only time I've ever cooked oats is when I wanted a bowl of hot porridge in winter. Any other time I either eat them raw or I soak the ground/powdered stuff overnight in the fridge for a shake with milk or water.

Also to answer (I missed that): idk for sure I think you could try different types and quantities (smaller quantities may be easier, ifk) if you want to.

Personally, I don't seenthw attraction to eat dry oats. My chickens do lol. I don't. It upsets my dogs stomach whereas cooked doesn't.

I would Personally say to cook all oats. Whether that be boiling water, hot nilk,, or baking (I love oats baked with some raisins, cinnamon, a dash of maple syrup. I always I add protein powder to my oats too so it's a protein bomb.

Anyway, I say it will always always be easier on your stomach to cook the oats first. It also may help with nutrient absorption (as cooking generally does). Some may be fine without cooking but others such as yourself may need it. Give it a try and let us know how you feel!

Often times to cook, I just boil water inb ithe kettle then pour it over the oats. This works great for quick cooking oats but for rolled oats you must cook for several minutes in boiling water.

 

[1tank1]

Also to answer (I missed that): idk for sure I think you could try different types and quantities (smaller quantities may be easier, ifk) if you want to.

Personally, I don't seenthw attraction to eat dry oats. My chickens do lol. I don't. It upsets my dogs stomach whereas cooked doesn't.

I would Personally say to cook all oats. Whether that be boiling water, hot nilk,, or baking (I love oats baked with some raisins, cinnamon, a dash of maple syrup. I always I add protein powder to my oats too so it's a protein bomb.

Anyway, I say it will always always be easier on your stomach to cook the oats first. It also may help with nutrient absorption (as cooking generally does). Some may be fine without cooking but others such as yourself may need it. Give it a try and let us know how you feel!

Often times to cook, I just boil water inb ithe kettle then pour it over the oats. This works great for quick cooking oats but for rolled oats you must cook for several minutes in boiling water.

Rolled oats are the main ingredient in Muesli and I've never heard anyone say Muesli needs to be cooked. Most people just add milk and eat it straight away like any other cereal but I get the point you're trying to make.

Raw oats are just a nice light texture addition to a bowl of greek yoghurt and fruit and they put some slow release carbs into the meal but I use granola sometimes too (which is the same as your suggestion to bake the oats with some syrup/honey.... but quicker and more convenient with no washing up to do later lol).

 

[GuerillaPete]

Rolled oats are the main ingredient in Muesli and I've never heard anyone say Muesli needs to be cooked. Most people just add milk and eat it straight away like any other cereal but I get the point you're trying to make.

Raw oats are just a nice light texture addition to a bowl of greek yoghurt and fruit and they put some slow release carbs into the meal but I use granola sometimes too (which is the same as your suggestion to bake the oats with some syrup/honey.... but quicker and more convenient with no washing up to do later lol).

I just soak mine in coconut milk for 1-2 hours .
I use the steel cut oats .
Never had an upset stomach from them and i do eat a fair bit of oats .

 

[JesterBOB]

Yeah it was hard emotionally. I love animals deeply, but I want to live true to my values and I feel one of the most important thing thay people need to try to do is NOT be a hypocrite. I SAY that this is the way humans are meant to live. Might I change my mind? Perhaps, idk. But I am gonna give it a wholehearted try. I just refuse to be one who doesn't live as I say. Hypocrisy is such a huge problem in modern society, I will do what I can not to be one.

I couldn't kill a cow, personally. I can shoot a deer from 100 yards but I couldn't kill a cow. Cows have too much intelligence in their eyes and they are sweet animals. I also couldn't kill a hog. I RARELY ever eat beef for thay reason and I almost never eat pork. Only exception is some pepperoni on our homemade sourdough goat cheese pizzas.

Here's a pic of that bird after cooking (her name was Matilda).

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Had some leftovers for dinner tonight too. Almost gone. Then we will make broth out of the carcass and some of the organs. The other organs go to my dog for his homemade food.


I agree uncooked oats is a bad idea. @1tank1 you should cook them.

This wouldn't surprise me. For some reason I thought youbwere specifically mentioning test, idk why though looking back. I'll look into the biotransformation of these substances (and others) to confirn. I think formatting the data I find into a table could be very nice. There are various ways to inhibit various enzymes (primarily CYPxxx enzymes) so that will be taken into consideration as well.


Edit: I was one of those kids who didn't like the fox and the hound or Bambi because the animal died. I grew up with a dog and a cat and I just was so upset by it. Same with all dogs go to heaven lol. So sensitive. I started out rabbit hunting then moved up to deer. Anyone can do it but you have to have a specific mindset and steel your heart if you didnt grow up doing it.

Hypocrisy is generally a big problem, and people, because of the fear of admitting weakness to themselves and others, begin to lie and deceive, and as a result, a complete lie.
I love animals in general and can't imagine how they can be killed. Therefore, when I come for fresh meat, I try not to look at farms for animals, because my conscience begins to torment me.

 

[MFAAS]

I just soak mine in coconut milk for 1-2 hours .
I use the steel cut oats .
Never had an upset stomach from them and i do eat a fair bit of oats .

Soaking works great top in my experience.