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And there’s no other enzyme besides aromatase to produce estrogens of any type in the body - both in women and men, they are all converted by aromatase from androgens.

There is a putative mechanism by which 19-Nortestosterone derivates can be converted into estrogens in the liver:


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i would probably do a multi targeted treatment plan to speed up aromatese and get more e2

so i would probably still run your estradiol cyp + dbol + up test by +- 10% and lower eq by +- 10% for short term and long term planning.

It's more for long term planning lol

Inject more E2 or add ment lol

Just don't know what's the conversion to E2 (if any at all) lol.

From reading @bigdaddyandfriends's post, it almost feels like taking DBOL or MENT won't do much if 1g of Test isn't sufficient. The conversion is going to be blocked by EQ somehow (to a certain extend).
 
It's more for long term planning lol
just be lazy then.

testosterone 1200mg

eq 800mg

up estradiol cyp to 2x your current dose

you should have workable estrogen from there in few weeks and can go down to 1000mg test 400-600 eq and stay there without the need of dbol, ment, estradiol cyp. slowly but steadily take out 0.25mg e cyp a week when you've gone down to 1g test again
 
It's more for long term planning lol



Just don't know what's the conversion to E2 (if any at all) lol.

From reading @bigdaddyandfriends's post, it almost feels like taking DBOL or MENT won't do much if 1g of Test isn't sufficient. The conversion is going to be blocked by EQ somehow (to a certain extend).
Estradiol cyp would be my first choice.

I was a bit joking on the ment, you don't want to add another more variables in that stack. Just go with e2cyp very easy to dial in when you have found your dose and then you can use it in the future for any other cycle
 
You just need your body to find equilibrium I would wait a bit more before dropping the idea of 1mg ecyp
at this point im just happy my body is not breaking out on my face+chest anymore and i only get shoulder + back acne from unstable hormones.

1g test 1g eq atleast a little acne is expected
 
Inject more E2 or add ment lol
Didnt follow the conversation, but why forcing the gram of EQ? 1 gram of test is standard and I can understand the need but you usually adapt your AI to your test dose, no ?

Anyway, low dose MENT is probably the best idea. If MENT isnt possible, something that makes your more e2 sensitive (nand, anadrol, tren).

Test/eq/low dose tren is, imo, a good mass cycle. And 50 to 100 mg of tren won't make your HTC goes skyhigh.

Nand and anadrol, on the other hand...
 
1 month into eq now, headache is strong and daily.

gonna be fun to see bloodwork in another month and assess whatevers causing it.

bp is 120/70-80 ish with 20mg cialis
 
I’ve used eq in all my preps and off-season cycles as well

Eq does seem to effect gaba levels for me, unless it’s low e2, or both that cause anxiety

Regular supplementational gaba calms me down

I know people will say it doesn’t cross the bbb, and maybe it doesn’t but it works, esp for f I haven’t taken it for a few days three to five grams with no food before or after for at least an hour

Taking gaba a and b drugs , even in prep is undo stress. Do what you have to do though

As you may know the less drugs one must take, the better
 
I'm a big fan of EQ and I run it every cycle, mainly for estrogen management. It's cheap and I have never experienced any side effects but I don't run it at a very high dose. Currently I'm on 750 sustanon and 200 EQ. Normally I get mild estrogen sides at anything over 350 test but with just a little dab of EQ it eliminates all that.
 
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