End of Primo for Me

[Sicsemptyran]

Bit of a topic that has been beat dead at this point but figured it would serve as a reminder for those who want something to work that occasionally there are compounds that simply don’t work for you.

Have always been interested in primo (stocked up on quite a bit back when it was available) and am about 6 weeks into trying for a 3rd time to work it into a regiment.

Unfortunately, as someone who already barely aromatizes (1800 TT on 200mg/test/wk puts me at 35-40E2 sensitive), it appears that any ratio of test to primo just does not work.

Currently running 500mg/test + 70mg of primo or a ~7:1 ratio, felt way too jittery/couldn’t sleep/shot libido - E2 came back at 11. Two days of some dbol and what do you know, feel like a million bucks.

Everything else looks perfect, but the low E2 is a horrible feeling for me and is the only thing that can get my BP over 115/65, so looks like that’s the end of the road for primo for me!

 

[atruse]

Why don’t you try injecting estradial?

There’s a thread on the cycle log of someone doing that right now.
And I’ll be starting a test/primo cycle next week with 1mg/wk estradial cypionate to keep e2 from crashing

 

[adrenalytic]

Tried running it with a wet compound? Or look into DHEA

 

[Sicsemptyran]

Why don’t you try injecting estradial?

Totally could find ways around it, more just lack of care to overcomplicate frankly.

Still at a point where I could likely accomplish the 95% of what I want to do with mostly just test and even when running abusive levels of test (and most other compounds besides primo..) my bloodwork/feels remain immaculate, so don’t think I’ll do that yet.

Few cycles down the line I may very well give it another go but not for now! I may also just try to leave it in at something ridiculous like 14mg a wk and see what that does over the next 6 weeks.

 

[Sicsemptyran]

Tried running it with a wet compound? Or look into DHEA

Have not yet! Other than to pull the rip cord the other day and throw in some dbol just to be able to sleep through the night/get some estrogen agonism.

Considered running another 10wks of HCG even though I just finished 10wk’s of HCG with my TRT heading into this, but similar to the suggestion of using estrogen I just felt there’s no need to overcomplicate just for the sake of using primo for primo’s sake.

 

[adrenalytic]

Have not yet! Other than to pull the rip cord the other day and throw in some dbol just to be able to sleep through the night/get some estrogen agonism.

Considered running another 10wks of HCG even though I just finished 10wk’s of HCG with my TRT heading into this, but similar to the suggestion of using estrogen I just felt there’s no need to overcomplicate just for the sake of using primo for primo’s sake.

I get that. Primo is great for the look it gives. Try DHB. I feel like I look amazing on it. Same dryness so you'll have some E2 lowering effect but just up your test to find a good balance and shouldn't be an issue.

It's also way more anabolic than primo.

 

[Methyl Mike]

Add dbol and you'll be happy.

 

[Sicsemptyran]

Add dbol and you'll be happy.

You are not wrong! Put in my original post that 2 days of dbol had me feeling like a million bucks.

 

[RockyP]

Todd Lee is smiling somewhere. Time to load up on masteron!

In all seriousness it’s great you realized this. There is NOTHING magical about primobolan and being a very low aromatizer is a super power.

 

[Eddie.]

Im kinda the same with EQ lately, running a very low dose just to say you run a second anabolic is dumb.

Although it saves me from trying to figure how much AI to take but honestly next off season i might try something like 1200-1500mg test solo. On cutting phase adding more compounds works well but for off season i doubt they do anything besides driving your e2 all over the place.

 

[Raiders789]

Hey bro, I'm the same as you - crazy low aromatizer and any ratio of test/primo ive tried zeroed my E2. Def feel you on the low E2, people don't talk abt how much having low estrogen sucks lmao

I just started a thread documenting my current test/primo/injectable E2 cycle. I've run a cycle with injectable estradiol before and it was absolutely great - it takes all the guesswork + dose titrating out so you don't have to worry about E2 management or side effects(as long as you know your natural E2 is zeroed). I've been more and more in favor of structuring my cycles like this, becuase it gives a lot more freedom to increase the dose of any AI-like steroid(primo, mast, eq) without worrying about E2 and lets that steroid be the driver of hypertrophy. I haven't tried this but using injectable E2 could let you run a nandrolone only cycle, I believe MPMD did a trial of hrt like that but used transdermal estrogen.

I've tried high test as well, which might be a lot more cost efficient, but anything above like 500 test and I get bad acne and face bloat. Not a dealbreaker but currently a few weeks in on 250test/500primo with IM E2 and have had zero of those sides with great gym progress. And I look a lot leaner/less bloated than I would on say 750 test. Also another weird thing I've noticed is that even on 750mg steroids/week, I'm not getting the "gear face" look - like looking older and the tougher facial skin + redness, which I'd attribute to the primo.

Unique Test/Primo/E2 Base Cycle + EO Experiment

 

[nathenking]

Bit of a topic that has been beat dead at this point but figured it would serve as a reminder for those who want something to work that occasionally there are compounds that simply don’t work for you.

Have always been interested in primo (stocked up on quite a bit back when it was available) and am about 6 weeks into trying for a 3rd time to work it into a regiment.

Unfortunately, as someone who already barely aromatizes (1800 TT on 200mg/test/wk puts me at 35-40E2 sensitive), it appears that any ratio of test to primo just does not work.

Currently running 500mg/test + 70mg of primo or a ~7:1 ratio, felt way too jittery/couldn’t sleep/shot libido - E2 came back at 11. Two days of some dbol and what do you know, feel like a million bucks.

Everything else looks perfect, but the low E2 is a horrible feeling for me and is the only thing that can get my BP over 115/65, so looks like that’s the end of the road for primo for me!

At least you know now and can move onto greener pastures! I do fine on EQ Mast Test and Primo. That is all I will run anymore over the age of 40