Enclomiphene and MK-677

[stamdem]

I’m looking for some constructive criticism on it I’m planning to start. My goal is lean bulk while keeping health markers within a reasonable range.

Is this combination even worth it?

I'm not looking for a "magic pill," just an honest assessment of whether this stack provides a noticeable edge over a natural approach

 

[shredded.lyfe]

Tell me you're a teenager without telling me you're a teenager

 

[stamdem]

Tell me you're a teenager without telling me you're a teenager

I'm not a teenager

 

[Mariusdr]

Tried enclomiphene, did not do much for me. Personally would steer away from MK677, there are better HGH secretagogues out there.

 

[stamdem]

Tried enclomiphene, did not do much for me. Personally would steer away from MK677, there are better HGH secretagogues out there.

did your bloodwork show higher test levels?
I actually view the MK-677 hunger as a major benefit

 

[Mariusdr]

did your bloodwork show higher test levels?
I actually view the MK-677 hunger as a major benefit

Nope - similar to normal

 

[tweek]

What a ridiculous "cycle"

 

[the_pope]

I’m looking for some constructive criticism on it I’m planning to start. My goal is lean bulk while keeping health markers within a reasonable range.

Is this combination even worth it?

I'm not looking for a "magic pill," just an honest assessment of whether this stack provides a noticeable edge over a natural approach

This "cycle" won't do anything for you. MK677 will increase your hunger but fuck your insulin sensitivity, so it'll end being more of a problem than an improvement over natty.

Enclomiphene could elevate your natural test level marginally. Expensive drug for a barely noticeable effect. It won't bring you any gains. Save it for PCT if you ever decide to do a real cycle.

Speaking of a real cycle, 500 mg of test per week will bring you actual gains. But honestly, you sound like you're a teenager so you're probably better off without it. Wait until your mid 20s before using PEDs, it'll be for the better.

 

[ColdDuck]

What the fuck is this shitty "cycle"

 

[stamdem]

This "cycle" won't do anything for you. MK677 will increase your hunger but fuck your insulin sensitivity, so it'll end being more of a problem than an improvement over natty.

Enclomiphene could elevate your natural test level marginally. Expensive drug for a barely noticeable effect. It won't bring you any gains. Save it for PCT if you ever decide to do a real cycle.

Speaking of a real cycle, 500 mg of test per week will bring you actual gains. But honestly, you sound like you're a teenager so you're probably better off without it. Wait until your mid 20s before using PEDs, it'll be for the better.

im on my late 20s for the insulin i can just take berberine, again im not looking for major improvement hopefully it will be more impactful than creatine

 

[the_pope]

im on my late 20s for the insulin i can just take berberine, again im not looking for major improvement hopefully it will be more impactful than creatine

Assuming you really are in your late 20s, what is the reason you're not doing a simple testosterone cycle?

Look, even if you manage your insulin sensitivity with berberine while taking MK677 and increase your hunger, this is using two drugs with side effects just to increase your appetite. You could probably optimize your meal planning (add more frequent, smaller meals, just chug down more protein shakes, a long etc) and have the same end result: eating more calories, growing more. What is the point of using two drugs and risk their side effects?

And a simple test cycle won't be a "major improvement". It will put some muscle on you, but you won't blow up suddenly. You won't look like you're on steroids. Far from it. Nobody looks like they are on steroids on their first test cycle. You'll make steady lean mass gains. And it's the safest compound there is. With far less sides than MK.

 

[stamdem]

Assuming you really are in your late 20s, what is the reason you're not doing a simple testosterone cycle?

Look, even if you manage your insulin sensitivity with berberine while taking MK677 and increase your hunger, this is using two drugs with side effects just to increase your appetite. You could probably optimize your meal planning (add more frequent, smaller meals, just chug down more protein shakes, a long etc) and have the same end result: eating more calories, growing more. What is the point of using two drugs and risk their side effects?

And a simple test cycle won't be a "major improvement". It will put some muscle on you, but you won't blow up suddenly. You won't look like you're on steroids. Far from it. Nobody looks like they are on steroids on their first test cycle. You'll make steady lean mass gains. And it's the safest compound there is. With far less sides than MK.

I read about the side effects of steroids like Left Ventricular Hypertrophy hormonal shutdown (or even hair loss) while it's got less sides effect the sides effect are much more serious, is it?