DIY TRT (20yo)

[nutcase6174]

Hello everyone! I just wanted to get yall's input on doing DIY TRT.

I am a 20yo guy, 6'0" and 197lbs who has worked out on and off since I was 15. Never done any PEDs including sarms, prohormones, AAS's, hgh, peptides, etc.

I've always figured I was a lower test guy given my strength progression rate, fat distribution, muscle definiton, etc. even with extremely strict CICO + macros and at some stages 5-6 times a week strength training + cardio.

Recently I have had a ton of the typical side effects of low T (libido, energy, weight gain, mental sides) so I got it tested and it was:

Total T: 238 ng/dl
Free T: 33pg/ml

Which was concerning to say the least to both me and the lab, so I had it checked again later that day and it was even lower: 172ng/dl

Levels that low could've indicated a pituitary tumor, so I had my other hormone levels checked and they were:

FSH: 3.1 mIU/mL
LH: 4.8 mlU/mL
Estradiol: 15.0 pg/mL
Prolactin: 9.0 ng/mL

My other hormones are fine, so i don't have a tumor thank god but my test is cooked and all my low T symptoms keep getting worse. I mean I dont even want to have sex anymore at all.

As y'alll know there is 0 doctors who will ever give me TRT due to my age, however I am seriously not doing well especially mentally since it has been taking me away from enjoying the things I love especially the gym, sex, etc.

I was planning on just starting enclomephine alongside test E 200mg/week and monitoring how I do on that, since its long term I do not want to have to use an AI.

What do yall think about that dosage? I was thinking to space it out 2x a week 100mg each time, subcutaneously to limit scar tissue buildup given how long I'm going to be pinning (rest of my life). What is your experience with managing fertility? I have the results from a semen analyiss coming soon but either way I'm not wanting to have sex so I'm basically infertile lmao.

 

[glpfun]

Estradiol is better

 

[ethernea]

As y'alll know there is 0 doctors who will ever give me TRT due to my age, however I am seriously not doing well especially mentally since it has been taking me away from enjoying the things I love especially the gym, sex, etc.

Why would no doctor be willing to put you on TRT? Sure, you're young but your test levels ARE in the gutter and if it is so naturally, you're bound to find a good doc that won't let you live miserably...

So try to find a good doc first before turning to DIY TRT, unless you live in a shit country/area where getting a good legal TRT isn't possible

 

[Markimus Rex]

I'd start at 100mg instead, you won't need much with already low test, and I'd use test prop, if you can handle EOD shots, use an insulin pin, test prop will better mimick natural test, and give you more satisfying results...

 

[nutcase6174]

Why would no doctor be willing to put you on TRT? Sure, you're young but your test levels ARE in the gutter and if it is so naturally, you're bound to find a good doc that won't let you live miserably...

So try to find a good doc first before turning to DIY TRT, unless you live in a shit country/area where getting a good legal TRT isn't possible

I'm meeting with Transcend this week before I dive into UGLs. Basically every TRT clinic + endocrinologists do not ever prescribe T to someone my age so after a few consults this is my last option.

 

[nutcase6174]

I'd start at 100mg instead, you won't need much with already low test, and I'd use test prop, if you can handle EOD shots, use an insulin pin, test prop will better mimick natural test, and give you more satisfying results...

Why does prop make better results? I was figuring enanthate because it lasts longer so it would be more stable levels over time. Isn't prop half life like 3-4 days which is still much longer than the regular test cycle? I mean I figure test suspension must be the best in terms of mimicking the spikes + dips of natural test but suspension would basically wear off overnight and would need to be dosed every single day.

 

[nutcase6174]

Estradiol is better

I don't mean to be rude but is this a joke? If not can you explain more on why this would help my T levels? I'm not on gear so there's no excess aromitization to try to counteract.

 

[glpfun]

It will make your peepee feminine and breasts, you’ll make a good girl

 

[craigdt]

I was exactly in your case, but about 15 years older.

Started with 100-150mg test prop per week, pinned every day.

Diy.

You can get a vial of test for like $15 bucks.

you already know what your levels are, so dont need a test right now.

Life. Changer.

Just start.

 

[nutcase6174]

I'd start at 100mg instead, you won't need much with already low test, and I'd use test prop, if you can handle EOD shots, use an insulin pin, test prop will better mimick natural test, and give you more satisfying results...

IM or subcutaneously? From what I can tell both are basically same effectiveness but no one does subcutaneous for some reason.

 

[craigdt]

IM or subcutaneously? From what I can tell both are basically same effectiveness but no one does subcutaneous for some reason.

Stab that shit into your muscle

 

[AlexDavis43]

Why does prop make better results? I was figuring enanthate because it lasts longer so it would be more stable levels over time. Isn't prop half life like 3-4 days which is still much longer than the regular test cycle? I mean I figure test suspension must be the best in terms of mimicking the spikes + dips of natural test but suspension would basically wear off overnight and would need to be dosed every single day.

It depends on your preferred injection frequency.

IM or subcutaneously? From what I can tell both are basically same effectiveness but no one does subcutaneous for some reason.

Some people feel very heated about this but they're similar (there are studies). Again personal preference

 

[Slowww]

I think you should use less and a slower ester, less injection frequency as you begin.

 

[glpfun]

I think if you’re sure you don’t want to be a girl you should take a lot of tren start with 40 mg every day to reverse your transition

 

[dinfar1337]

Hello everyone! I just wanted to get yall's input on doing DIY TRT.

I am a 20yo guy, 6'0" and 197lbs who has worked out on and off since I was 15. Never done any PEDs including sarms, prohormones, AAS's, hgh, peptides, etc.

I've always figured I was a lower test guy given my strength progression rate, fat distribution, muscle definiton, etc. even with extremely strict CICO + macros and at some stages 5-6 times a week strength training + cardio.

Recently I have had a ton of the typical side effects of low T (libido, energy, weight gain, mental sides) so I got it tested and it was:

Total T: 238 ng/dl
Free T: 33pg/ml

Which was concerning to say the least to both me and the lab, so I had it checked again later that day and it was even lower: 172ng/dl

Levels that low could've indicated a pituitary tumor, so I had my other hormone levels checked and they were:

FSH: 3.1 mIU/mL
LH: 4.8 mlU/mL
Estradiol: 15.0 pg/mL
Prolactin: 9.0 ng/mL

My other hormones are fine, so i don't have a tumor thank god but my test is cooked and all my low T symptoms keep getting worse. I mean I dont even want to have sex anymore at all.

As y'alll know there is 0 doctors who will ever give me TRT due to my age, however I am seriously not doing well especially mentally since it has been taking me away from enjoying the things I love especially the gym, sex, etc.

I was planning on just starting enclomephine alongside test E 200mg/week and monitoring how I do on that, since its long term I do not want to have to use an AI.

What do yall think about that dosage? I was thinking to space it out 2x a week 100mg each time, subcutaneously to limit scar tissue buildup given how long I'm going to be pinning (rest of my life). What is your experience with managing fertility? I have the results from a semen analyiss coming soon but either way I'm not wanting to have sex so I'm basically infertile lmao.

enclomiphene is a natty compound, you can take it with testosterone but it absolutely wont do shit since you're getting the testosterone from a external source and shutting yourself down.

at 182cm and 90kg if you're not morbidly obese this is not low testosterone. this is extremely low testosterone dude you must be suffering, fuck this process going through a doctor which is gonna turn out more expensive anyway.

just grab some kits from a china man vendor and inject trt 2x a week. vials is 9-11$ on trt each vial last you a good 20+ weeks if you're running like 125mg trt a week. expensive part is just gonna be bloodwork you can be lazy get it 2/3 times a year on trt

 

[k0rkscrew]

Any other medications or recreational drugs used currently or in your past? Have you tried any other methods to boost your levels? If there was an option to boost your levels naturally would you try it or are you just set on TRT?

 

[nutcase6174]

I think if you’re sure you don’t want to be a girl you should take a lot of tren start with 40 mg every day to reverse your transition

I was thinking of PlanB maxxing first

 

[nutcase6174]

enclomiphene is a natty compound, you can take it with testosterone but it absolutely wont do shit since you're getting the testosterone from a external source and shutting yourself down.

at 182cm and 90kg if you're not morbidly obese this is not low testosterone. this is extremely low testosterone dude you must be suffering, fuck this process going through a doctor which is gonna turn out more expensive anyway.

just grab some kits from a china man vendor and inject trt 2x a week. vials is 9-11$ on trt each vial last you a good 20+ weeks if you're running like 125mg trt a week. expensive part is just gonna be bloodwork you can be lazy get it 2/3 times a year on trt

On the plus side I might hyper respond to anything since even with my low level i still have alright chest+traps and okay delts. I look like someone who works out not lean but not by any means like chubby or anything. More like a dad bod with less gut and more defined delts+chest.

 

[nutcase6174]

Any other medications or recreational drugs used currently or in your past? Have you tried any other methods to boost your levels? If there was an option to boost your levels naturally would you try it or are you just set on TRT?

Nope, just diet and exercise + multivitamins (oneaday) + creatine for natural test boosts, and no other drugs.

I would like to just do it natural but there are no actual studies indicating any sort of supplement (including enclomephine) would bring me even within the normal range.

 

[dinfar1337]

On the plus side I might hyper respond to anything since even with my low level i still have alright chest+traps and okay delts. I look like someone who works out not lean but not by any means like chubby or anything. More like a dad bod with less gut and more defined delts+chest.

haha good luck! when you cut down to a good 10% bf your confidence will be shattered and when you're bulking you'll feel like god again. this is just the process. will be much appreciated if you update us on your journey going forward