Cosmetic enhancement for a vacation

[Sadist]

I wasn’t looking to go on a drastic cut and be carb depleted so I can feel like shit before I even get there and start drinking. I appreciate the advice but I think you missed the mark on what I was asking for. @Sadist

I wasn’t looking to transform my physique in 2 weeks, just a cosmetic enhancement to what I already have built. I ended up going with anavar and upped my daily dose of cialis and I think I looked leaner and more vascular and full. Regardless it shouldn’t have even been that big of a deal I was probably one of 3 people in actual shape at the entire resort lol I forgot most people are lazy and we’re in a bubble of .001% physiques in the world.

I already felt like shit by day 4 of binge drinking lol @BigDadd7 so you’re absolutely right I can’t imagine the misery I wouldve went through if I was already dehydrated and carb deleted the first day there

i see, then just stick to everything else i mentioned and youll still be fine. i mentioned dnp to merely suggest the most optimal way to get absolutely shredded in a short period of time.

as i said though, you can leave some room for desaturation to feel baseline again. btw, i was drinking like every day on dnp and as i said before, was absolutely fine. i drink a lot on cycle in general, which despite being unideal (water), i can afford to do at 0 cost (which is very individual, but im just putting it out there).

either way, i hope other users’ advice helped you out and you had a good time!

 

[BigDadd7]

it pretty much is the magic us “looksmaxxers” think it is though. ive gone from 18% to 12% in 10 days on that shit. i dont see a point of restricting yourself with not taking some compounds just because it seems like “too much” and coping with “muh diet”. its not about the ability to control the diet, for unless youre a 300lb 150ng/dl test idiot, dieting should he no issue at all. and youre either lying about having used dnp, or are brutally underinformed, as you wouldve understood why i throw glps into my dnp-assisted cuts instead of making such assumptions.

besides, obviously he will have to leave a few days to desaturate from it before he goes; it really doesnt take that long.

No, you did not lose 6% bf in 10 days. You dehydrated and carb depleted yourself. Maybe 3% if you're lucky.

 

[HeatherSwanson]

Hi guys,

as you all know i'm in the midst of a cycle. I will be going to costa rica in late january. there is a gym in the resort i'm staying at so i'll still be lifting every morning. Is there something I can take on top of my test cycle for a temporary cosmetic enhancement for this trip? Obviously i'll be shirtless a lot so i'm trying to look best as possible.

I'm not concerned about performance (The first thing that came to mind for me was anavar but that's moreso performance as opposed to cosmetic enhancement), i just want something that will dry me out and look nice and full during this trip (also needs to work within 3 weeks lol)

Any ideas? or just stick to my test cycle and thats it. I also already take MT2 and will tan before the trip

Run 50mg tbol a day for 2-3 weeks prior to the trip... You'll be flat as fuck when you're home but that's about as shortcutty as it gets

 

[Sadist]

No, you did not lose 6% bf in 10 days. You dehydrated and carb depleted yourself. Maybe 3% if you're lucky.

of course lowering my gear dosage, cutting off hgh and discontinuing creatine helped, but i did not look much fatter/bloated even after desaturating from dnp (and therefore regaining carbs). with the amount of shit i ran, it is very much possible to lose that much fat. i lost about 12kg in total in that period.

 

[RockyP]

If you’re in shape eating lots of salty carbs and drinking booze should make you look great, but a few days in a row of it and you’ll likely spill over. If you’re going to be drinking, obviously it’s asinine to take any orals. And since you can’t / prob won’t travel with injectables, problem is solved. Don’t do anything. Just go enjoy yourself.

 

[Mfras]

No, you did not lose 6% bf in 10 days. You dehydrated and carb depleted yourself. Maybe 3% if you're lucky.

Yeah I just read that and had pause. I’m losing just under a pound a week and it’s gonna take me ten weeks to go from tickling 14% down to a solid 10%. DNP, Clen, all those weight loss compounds I only see value for people sub 10% and struggling for an edge while constantly miserable.

The only way for it to be true is if he’s a wiry calisthenics athelete and 4’ 11”- then it would make sense because when you’re 100lbs with 85 ffm the bf% numbers equal small lb amounts.

 

[Sadist]

Yeah I just read that and had pause. I’m losing just under a pound a week and it’s gonna take me ten weeks to go from tickling 14% down to a solid 10%. DNP, Clen, all those weight loss compounds I only see value for people sub 10% and struggling for an edge while constantly miserable.

The only way for it to be true is if he’s a wiry calisthenics athelete and 4’ 11”- then it would make sense because when you’re 100lbs with 85 ffm the bf% numbers equal small lb amounts.

you lose about 1lb of pure fat per day on mere 200mg/day but ok…

 

[Mfras]

you lose about 1lb of pure fat per day on mere 200mg/day but ok…

“Pure fat” hahahahaha

 

[Sadist]

“Pure fat” hahahahaha

i guess you know better bro. i just started my new cycle, so you will have to wait a few months while i bulk, but when i start my cut i may deadass make a thread showing how dnp drops my bodyfat BY THE DAY with 0 muscle mass loss.

 

[Mfras]

i guess you know better bro. i just started my new cycle, so you will have to wait a few months while i bulk, but when i start my cut i may deadass make a thread showing how dnp drops my bodyfat BY THE DAY with 0 muscle mass loss.

I’m not Mr. Science based guy but if you did enough DNP to drop your tdee by 3500 calories that’d be a pretty wild ride. A pound a day is certainly possible but would have to include a ton of water, glycogen, and probably some muscle, especially if it made it hard to eat and you starved yourself on top of feeling like you had a fever while cooking in an oven.

Just my opinion but when banging 500 tren and doing a PSMF for a month seems like a healthier option maybe you’re looking at the wrong drugs. If DNP was safe for more than mild use in a cut simulating a few hundred extra calorie deficit everybody would be on it.

 

[Mfras]

i guess you know better bro.

I had chatgpt run the numbers, assuming you’re a smaller dude to make it “more realistic” with a start at 18% fat 180lbs total.

Your numbers:

Scenario A: “Best case” (zero lean loss, all fat)
Lean stays 147.6 lb.
At 10% BF, lean is 90% of total weight:

• Total weight = 147.6 / 0.90 = 164.0 lb
• Fat mass = 164.0 × 0.10 = 16.4 lb

So the change would be:

• Fat loss: 32.4 − 16.4 = 16.0 lb fat
• Weight loss: 180 − 164 = 16.0 lb total (all fat)
• Energy requirement:
• 16.0 lb fat × 3,500 kcal/lb = 56,000 kcal
• Over 10 days: 5,600 kcal/day deficit
• That is… absurdly high.
• To contextualize: if someone’s TDEE is ~2,800–3,200, they’d have to be effectively not eating AND magically burning an extra 2,500–3,000 kcal/day on top, every day, for 10 days.

 

[Sadist]

I’m not Mr. Science based guy but if you did enough DNP to drop your tdee by 3500 calories that’d be a pretty wild ride. A pound a day is certainly possible but would have to include a ton of water, glycogen, and probably some muscle, especially if it made it hard to eat and you starved yourself on top of feeling like you had a fever while cooking in an oven.

Just my opinion but when banging 500 tren and doing a PSMF for a month seems like a healthier option maybe you’re looking at the wrong drugs. If DNP was safe for more than mild use in a cut simulating a few hundred extra calorie deficit everybody would be on it.

the problem with dnp is that its fearmongered to death, thats why everyone refuses to do it. it actually makes you hungry as fuck, that is the exact reason why i also use a glp whilst on it. and of course some of it will be water and glycogen as you said, but that would only come in the first few days, after which it will be 99% fat. my exact cutting stack went as follows:

400mg dnp
10mg retatrutide
125mcg cagrilintide
20mg anavar
260mg tren ace
dropping test from 1g to 250mg
discontinuing hgh from 6iu

all of that, obviously, made my pre and post cut look like two different people, and i remember how one day i woke up, looked in the mirror and thought “holy fucking shit”, and i indeed did retain all my muscle mass (your muscles do look depleted on dnp, but regain fullness when you get off for a number of reasons, so it is temporary) but my whole point is that a cut ideally should be approached in multiple pathways as opposed to just eliminating fat. even shit like melanotan (which i jumped on right afterwards) makes you look even more shredded, as you may know.

does that stack look excessive? on paper, yeah. but as mentioned in my posts above, i barely ever felt like overheating (especially considering i ran it in december) and only really had excessive sweating at night. glps also didnt really bother me that much (as my bmr has my appetite nuked at baseline anyways); i just wanted to make sure i make the most out of the dnp cycle (as users talked about the aforementioned extreme hunger whilst on it). to me, it was always about simply using correct ancillaries, as i literally drank whilst on dnp like every day and felt completely fine, with my bloods coming back as perfect (besides sex hormones, obviously).

 

[Sadist]

I had chatgpt run the numbers, assuming you’re a smaller dude to make it “more realistic” with a start at 18% fat 180lbs total.

Your numbers:

Scenario A: “Best case” (zero lean loss, all fat)
Lean stays 147.6 lb.
At 10% BF, lean is 90% of total weight:

• Total weight = 147.6 / 0.90 = 164.0 lb
• Fat mass = 164.0 × 0.10 = 16.4 lb

So the change would be:

• Fat loss: 32.4 − 16.4 = 16.0 lb fat
• Weight loss: 180 − 164 = 16.0 lb total (all fat)
• Energy requirement:
• 16.0 lb fat × 3,500 kcal/lb = 56,000 kcal
• Over 10 days: 5,600 kcal/day deficit
• That is… absurdly high.
• To contextualize: if someone’s TDEE is ~2,800–3,200, they’d have to be effectively not eating AND magically burning an extra 2,500–3,000 kcal/day on top, every day, for 10 days.

i’m 6’4 and i ate once a day or even once per two days, for reference. not only is gpt inaccurate, but its also a fearmongering final boss.

 

[Mfras]

i’m 6’4 and i ate once a day or even once per two days, for reference. not only is gpt inaccurate, but its also a fearmongering final boss.

Maybe so but I didn’t ask chat gpt about DNP. I asked it to run the numbers to see what actual pounds of fat would be lost in your 18% to 12% pure fat loss in 10 days claim. Not because I trust GPT’s opinion, but because I’m not busting out a calculator to run the numbers myself. I even had it start at 180lbs total at 18% which assumes a tiny weak little man- making your claim “more plausable”.

I’m not on this forum to be smarter than anybody or win arguements but please don’t post this bullshit it’s not cool. DNP actually is a scary drug. I’m sure you lost 16lbs in 10 days- fighters do that kind of shit all the time to make weight. But then they gain it back in two days after weigh in, because it’s mostly not fat.

 

[bossetti]

i’m 6’4 and i ate once a day or even once per two days, for reference. not only is gpt inaccurate, but its also a fearmongering final boss.

single digit bodyfat while eating haribos pasta and pizza lol, u dont need any DNP lmao

 

[adrenalytic]

Maybe so but I didn’t ask chat gpt about DNP. I asked it to run the numbers to see what actual pounds of fat would be lost in your 18% to 12% pure fat loss in 10 days claim. Not because I trust GPT’s opinion, but because I’m not busting out a calculator to run the numbers myself. I even had it start at 180lbs total at 18% which assumes a tiny weak little man- making your claim “more plausable”.

I’m not on this forum to be smarter than anybody or win arguements but please don’t post this bullshit it’s not cool. DNP actually is a scary drug. I’m sure you lost 16lbs in 10 days- fighters do that kind of shit all the time to make weight. But then they gain it back in two days after weigh in, because it’s mostly not fat.

Arguing with a looksmaxxer is about as futile as it gets. They already have it all figured out. They're here to educate us. It's weird how they're all tiny mfers using grams upon grams of gear though.