Cops love to shoot you... even in the back

to your point


Did you hear the guy in the video that was interviewed. "He handled it very well, he was BACKING UP INSTEAD OF ENGAGING. That is my point of how much of the public perceives police involvement, they think police should turn their backs.

Video was decent, but not quite along the lines of what I'm talking about. I'm talking about a straight beatdown, as in repeated swings with it until the person stops moving :)
 
Idk how many more do you think committed crimes and were not caught or charged? Like the 5 pricks that choked out Eric Garner, all acquitted for killing a defenseless man in broad day light?

That would be counted towards your arrests.

You are now bringing in new factors here.

Convictions vs arrests are two different things. Let’s stay on topic.
 
That would be counted towards your arrests.

You are now bringing in new factors here.

Convictions vs arrests are two different things. Let’s stay on topic.
No your confused they were not charged therefore it wouldn’t count.

Convictions vs arrests are different.
But when did this thread become one topic? I’m going to try and dig up the number of internal affairs investigations nation wide. They might not be charged yet but there being investigated for a reason and nationwide I’m sure the number is astonishing!!
 
Its 2019 I didn't think that anyone would still think you can judge a group bye individual actions that's like saying hey there was 50 000 rapes in the USA last year so every American is a rapist an so on. I agree that some cops are assholes but it doesn't mean all them are bad people
 
Its 2019 I didn't think that anyone would still think you can judge a group bye individual actions that's like saying hey there was 50 000 rapes in the USA last year so every American is a rapist an so on. I agree that some cops are assholes but it doesn't mean all them are bad people
I agree there not all bad. Though to use the term a few bad apples is a played out representation. If I were a gonna take a guess I would say 65% are good against 35% bad. There are ten of thousands cops under investigation for police misconduct, and police brutality.

Could it all be fake news? :rolleyes:
 
I agree there not all bad. Though to use the term a few bad apples is a played out representation. If I were a gonna take a guess I would say 65% are good against 35% bad. There are ten of thousands cops under investigation for police misconduct, and police brutality.

Could it all be fake news? :rolleyes:

Tens of thousands of cops under investigation? Were did that number come from.

Again, how many are in the police force in the entire USA?

65% good cops vs 35% bad cops.

So based on your numbers let’s play this out.

There are around 900,000 police force/ sworn officers in the United States.

There were 1,000 arrests on police
What is that percentage based off number of sworn police men and women?

You are saying that roughly 585,000 cops out of the 900,000k are good and
And the remainder are bad?

But based off the arrests made and convictions, that number would be widely argued/ false.

Even if you add is the propaganda of “how many weren’t caught... go ahead and double the amount to 2,000 arrests or even triple that number. It still makes up for less than .5% ( point five percent)

You realize that even if 9k arrests and convictions were to happen that still makes up less than 1% of all the sworn officers in the United States? And this is based off the numbers you provided on arrested cops.

Even if we go back to 10 of thousands being investigated... again... less Than 1%.


But I guess that 1% of bad cops gets all the attention away from the other 99% excellent cops doing their job.
 
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No your confused they were not charged therefore it wouldn’t count.

Convictions vs arrests are different.
But when did this thread become one topic? I’m going to try and dig up the number of internal affairs investigations nation wide. They might not be charged yet but there being investigated for a reason and nationwide I’m sure the number is astonishing!!

Will still make up less than 3% lmao.

Obviously convictions vs arrests are different. You must not have read my posts because that’s exactly what I said.

If an officer is arrested it is counted as an arrest.

If an officer is arrested it is counted as conviction rate.

No confusion here.
 
Will still make up less than 3% lmao.

Obviously convictions vs arrests are different. You must not have read my posts because that’s exactly what I said.

If an officer is arrested it is counted as an arrest.

If an officer is arrested it is counted as conviction rate.

No confusion here.
Still seem confused though??
They were not arrested or convicted. Only investigated. They are in the grey area along with thousands of other piece of shit cops.

Your right only 1% of cops are bad.
What a joke!!
 
Still seem confused though??
They were not arrested or convicted. Only investigated. They are in the grey area along with thousands of other piece of shit cops.

Your right only 1% of cops are bad.
What a joke!!

That validates my point even further.

If you want to lump them all into one category then that’s fine too. Call it grey area or whatever.

And yes, based off number you provided and numbers the government provides with number of sworn officers only less than 1% of all sworn officers do wrong.

So I do believe the term a few bad apples is relevant considering there are only based off your numbers 1-3k bad cops or if we add in the propoganda 10,000 bad cops we still have 890,000k good cops.

So your chances of encountering a “bad” cop is relatively low. But to bad we consider bad cops bad for doing their job and hopefully making it back to their family and putting their life on the line.
 
Have to agree with some cops being flat out cowards! If you’ve been picked on you’re entire childhood and finally lifted a few weights and got some size.... maybe being a cop is a poor career choice. That seems to be case as some cops are quick to pull trigger because they’re afraid.
@Demondosage youre saying cops need to “start” pulling the batons, where have you been. They’ve been doing that shit for generations right here in the good ole US of A.
What it comes down to is wrong is wrong; doesn’t matter if you have a badge or not. Also, a bitch is a bitch, doesn’t matter if you have a badge or not. Pick another career if you ignore your training and react with unwarranted force.

I think a big issue and the reason many of the incidents of unnecessary or excessive use of force by police comes down to poor training. At most most police training is 6 months, usually around 20 weeks. Cops in Europe have superior training and train well over 2 years. I mean most of them don’t have guns so they need the extra training and so they are better equipped dealing with a suspect armed with a knife. I just think in many cases the cops here just don’t know what to do and are quick on the draw due to fear instead of outright malice. Give them better training.
 
That validates my point even further.

If you want to lump them all into one category then that’s fine too. Call it grey area or whatever.

And yes, based off number you provided and numbers the government provides with number of sworn officers only less than 1% of all sworn officers do wrong.

So I do believe the term a few bad apples is relevant considering there are only based off your numbers 1-3k bad cops or if we add in the propoganda 10,000 bad cops we still have 890,000k good cops.

So your chances of encountering a “bad” cop is relatively low. But to bad we consider bad cops bad for doing their job and hopefully making it back to their family and putting their life on the line.
Like choking out defenseless people and shooting unarmed kids in the back.
Yeah props to the pigs!! It’s ok they can still go home to there family after doing this shit and still get paid. The system is flawed just like the piggies lives. They signed up because there unqualified to do anything else besides maybe be a security guard at a bowling alley. Sad days !!
 
Like choking out defenseless people and shooting unarmed kids in the back.
Yeah props to the pigs!! It’s ok they can still go home to there family after doing this shit and still get paid. The system is flawed just like the piggies lives. They signed up because there unqualified to do anything else besides maybe be a security guard at a bowling alley. Sad days !!

So we can say that about the civilians then who murder cops for no reason or civilians who bombed, slayed and mamed their fellow people or the gangs who shoot each other over turf war and innocent kids, mothers and fathers get caught in cross hair.

You seem to think or believe cops are the only people killing anyone.
 
Like choking out defenseless people and shooting unarmed kids in the back.
Yeah props to the pigs!! It’s ok they can still go home to there family after doing this shit and still get paid. The system is flawed just like the piggies lives. They signed up because there unqualified to do anything else besides maybe be a security guard at a bowling alley. Sad days !!

How many times have you had run-ins with LE?
 
I think a big issue and the reason many of the incidents of unnecessary or excessive use of force by police comes down to poor training. At most most police training is 6 months, usually around 20 weeks. Cops in Europe have superior training and train well over 2 years. I mean most of them don’t have guns so they need the extra training and so they are better equipped dealing with a suspect armed with a knife. I just think in many cases the cops here just don’t know what to do and are quick on the draw due to fear instead of outright malice. Give them better training.



Again ,easy to say until you are in that position.


You can’t train for every scenario. These are split second decisions.

And these cops who do shoot have to live with it.

Again, I suggest anyone who thinks they can do better go be on the force, or go to the military. But most wont put their life on the line but will sit back and critique much like the back seat driver tells the driver how to drive.
 


Again ,easy to say until you are in that position.


You can’t train for every scenario. These are split second decisions.

And these cops who do shoot have to live with it.

Again, I suggest anyone who thinks they can do better go be on the force, or go to the military. But most wont put their life on the line but will sit back and critique much like the back seat driver tells the driver how to drive.


Of course you can’t train for every scenario, but why settle for a half assed <6 month training when they could take the time and do it right like they do in the UK where they do an extensive training >5x longer? You’re putting them in potentially dangerous situations that can put them, the suspect and worst of all innocent bystanders at risk. I personally would vote for thorough training.
 
Of course you can’t train for every scenario, but why settle for a half assed <6 month training when they could take the time and do it right like they do in the UK where they do an extensive training >5x longer? You’re putting them in potentially dangerous situations that can put them, the suspect and worst of all innocent bystanders at risk. I personally would vote for thorough training.

I can agree with that for sure.
 
If cops started calling out each other’s bad deeds instead of blindly defending each other maybe people wouldn’t be so hostile towards them.
“It’s a hard thankless job”
If you were looking for an easy job to get thanked for your ego means more to you than upholding the rule of law and all that’s morally just. I’m not cut out to be a cop- I’m hot headed, don’t handle stress well, don’t trust people, etc. I couldn’t do the job but at least I’m aware of this. A lot of cops unfortunately do not.
 
If cops started calling out each other’s bad deeds instead of blindly defending each other maybe people wouldn’t be so hostile towards them.
“It’s a hard thankless job”
If you were looking for an easy job to get thanked for your ego means more to you than upholding the rule of law and all that’s morally just. I’m not cut out to be a cop- I’m hot headed, don’t handle stress well, don’t trust people, etc. I couldn’t do the job but at least I’m aware of this. A lot of cops unfortunately do not.

Based on statistics you are incorrect. You are speculating.
 
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