Combining NPP and Tren

[syuri]

@syuri

I think we talked in another thread but I'm running 50mg of tren E and I definitely feel a change. It's subtle but it's there. I'm down 2 lbs on the scale and still putting weight on the bar. Gonna bump to 80mg next week then top out at 100 for a hard cut.

Yeah, we did talk in another thread. I’m new to this site and I definitely change my profile picture often but I recognize some users here now lol

Yeah. I envy your usage of Tren. I think I pushed my Ace dosages too high (140) especially it being my first time. Granted, I worked my way up to that from the span of a few weeks, but I appreciate anecdotes and respect compound usage like yours. A low dose of Enanthate titrated up over time for a cut is a smart usage of tren. I’ll be doing something similiar after my bulk

Glad to see you’re making progress with it! Hope your hard cut goes well man! Trenything is possible, after all.

 

[adrenalytic]

Trenything is possible

Thanks bro and I am totally stealing that! Brilliant.

 

[Ron OG Mouse]

Yeah I’m finding out that so far I tolerate it well but I’m just entering a sort of week 3 phase in a normal tren timeline when effects (good and bad) start to really ramp. At least according to everything I’ve read, and the info I tricked chat GPT into laying out for me . So maybe shit will get bad, or good, or both I dunno- like the man said this stuff is so individual.

So far I’m not in love, which is good. But I’m also satisfying my curiosity which was really the whole point.

Milk Thistle. Cranberry extract and 2-3 gallons of water ED. That is a lifeline on Tren. Take care of you kidneys and liver.

I have never ran the two together. How are you joints? Deca always bloats you and lubes your joints while Tren kinda dries you out. How are they in combo? I am really curious as I have been thinking of added either Deca or Mast to the next cycle with Test and Tren. Completely different results but if I can get my joints feeling better at my age that's a big plus for Deca.

Have you gotten the superman/invencible effect from Tren yet? Nothing like it IMO. As long as you are in control and not a raving assshole it's great. Some guys can't control it.

 

[Mfras]

Milk Thistle. Cranberry extract and 2-3 gallons of water ED. That is a lifeline on Tren. Take care of you kidneys and liver.

I have never ran the two together. How are you joints? Deca always bloats you and lubes your joints while Tren kinda dries you out. How are they in combo? I am really curious as I have been thinking of added either Deca or Mast to the next cycle with Test and Tren. Completely different results but if I can get my joints feeling better at my age that's a big plus for Deca.

Have you gotten the superman/invencible effect from Tren yet? Nothing like it IMO. As long as you are in control and not a raving assshole it's great. Some guys can't control it.

No cran or thistle but yes on drinking tons of water.

I did gain 3-5lbs bodyweight when the tren came onboard but continue to look leaner every week like usual- been losing ≈1lb/week on the same cals I’ve been on sonce before adding tren in, but the scale hasn’t budged since more water came on. I’m a little full normally with the deca and gh and other than leaning out overall haven’t noticed a different look in the face, hands, feet/legs/ankles. So the tren is probably mostly intercellular water not bloat or blur.

The deca at 80mg I don’t even notice when I put it in but joints feel pretty great, which was the goal. Being my first foray into tren I have no idea how it would be without the deca. The deca’s been in for months though so the tren coming in was one variable at a time.

So far all I have learned about tren is there aren’t uncomfortable side effects for me, especially at low dose. Except pip- this shit hurts, especially front delts. I’m gonna hold here at 350/week for a little bit before dropping it- maybe I tolerate it well, maybe my bloodwork will be fucked, maybe it just didn’t get bad yet. And maybe it’ll turn out more like masteron in it’s usefulness to me- something that could shine when I’m way leaner. I’m around 16% now so lean enough to see stuff but not a dramatic effect someone sub 10% might see. I have 4 weeks left at 50/day in the bottle I opened so no matter what I’m not cracking another one, if I even make it that far.

Superman? I have felt some aggression in the gym for sure- set to kill and supersetting my normal routine, adding a sets, brutal dropsets, and recovering pretty well, but haven’t experienced PRs that seem magically easy the way I do on an NPP cycle. I think I might be in the ‘increased CNS and muscle recruitment’ phase, but not superman and no crazy stuff happening in the mirror that I didn’t expect as my continuing long cut works thru 16% and approaches 15%.

I had to expected my body to reject the tren, or for crazy mental/mood stuff to happen. Now I’m just waiting to see if anything really good even happens

 

[syuri]

No cran or thistle but yes on drinking tons of water.

I did gain 3-5lbs bodyweight when the tren came onboard but continue to look leaner every week like usual- been losing ≈1lb/week on the same cals I’ve been on sonce before adding tren in, but the scale hasn’t budged since more water came on. I’m a little full normally with the deca and gh and other than leaning out overall haven’t noticed a different look in the face, hands, feet/legs/ankles. So the tren is probably mostly intercellular water not bloat or blur.

The deca at 80mg I don’t even notice when I put it in but joints feel pretty great, which was the goal. Being my first foray into tren I have no idea how it would be without the deca. The deca’s been in for months though so the tren coming in was one variable at a time.

So far all I have learned about tren is there aren’t uncomfortable side effects for me, especially at low dose. Except pip- this shit hurts, especially front delts. I’m gonna hold here at 350/week for a little bit before dropping it- maybe I tolerate it well, maybe my bloodwork will be fucked, maybe it just didn’t get bad yet. And maybe it’ll turn out more like masteron in it’s usefulness to me- something that could shine when I’m way leaner. I’m around 16% now so lean enough to see stuff but not a dramatic effect someone sub 10% might see. I have 4 weeks left at 50/day in the bottle I opened so no matter what I’m not cracking another one, if I even make it that far.

Superman? I have felt some aggression in the gym for sure- set to kill and supersetting my normal routine, adding a sets, brutal dropsets, and recovering pretty well, but haven’t experienced PRs that seem magically easy the way I do on an NPP cycle. I think I might be in the ‘increased CNS and muscle recruitment’ phase, but not superman and no crazy stuff happening in the mirror that I didn’t expect as my continuing long cut works thru 16% and approaches 15%.

I had to expected my body to reject the tren, or for crazy mental/mood stuff to happen. Now I’m just waiting to see if anything really good even happens

Love reading your anecdotes and experiences man. I couldn’t tolerate it myself, but sure love seeing the results careful usage can give.

 

[bananafeet]

Yeah I’m finding out that so far I tolerate it well but I’m just entering a sort of week 3 phase in a normal tren timeline when effects (good and bad) start to really ramp. At least according to everything I’ve read, and the info I tricked chat GPT into laying out for me . So maybe shit will get bad, or good, or both I dunno- like the man said this stuff is so individual.

So far I’m not in love, which is good. But I’m also satisfying my curiosity which was really the whole point.

Everyone thinks they have mastered tren lol

It goes fine, then all of a sudden it's intolerable.

No cran or thistle but yes on drinking tons of water.

I did gain 3-5lbs bodyweight when the tren came onboard but continue to look leaner every week like usual- been losing ≈1lb/week on the same cals I’ve been on sonce before adding tren in, but the scale hasn’t budged since more water came on. I’m a little full normally with the deca and gh and other than leaning out overall haven’t noticed a different look in the face, hands, feet/legs/ankles. So the tren is probably mostly intercellular water not bloat or blur.

The deca at 80mg I don’t even notice when I put it in but joints feel pretty great, which was the goal. Being my first foray into tren I have no idea how it would be without the deca. The deca’s been in for months though so the tren coming in was one variable at a time.

So far all I have learned about tren is there aren’t uncomfortable side effects for me, especially at low dose. Except pip- this shit hurts, especially front delts. I’m gonna hold here at 350/week for a little bit before dropping it- maybe I tolerate it well, maybe my bloodwork will be fucked, maybe it just didn’t get bad yet. And maybe it’ll turn out more like masteron in it’s usefulness to me- something that could shine when I’m way leaner. I’m around 16% now so lean enough to see stuff but not a dramatic effect someone sub 10% might see. I have 4 weeks left at 50/day in the bottle I opened so no matter what I’m not cracking another one, if I even make it that far.

Superman? I have felt some aggression in the gym for sure- set to kill and supersetting my normal routine, adding a sets, brutal dropsets, and recovering pretty well, but haven’t experienced PRs that seem magically easy the way I do on an NPP cycle. I think I might be in the ‘increased CNS and muscle recruitment’ phase, but not superman and no crazy stuff happening in the mirror that I didn’t expect as my continuing long cut works thru 16% and approaches 15%.

I had to expected my body to reject the tren, or for crazy mental/mood stuff to happen. Now I’m just waiting to see if anything really good even happens

Reading your posts makes me wonder in I injected pure ghost peppers chillis.

I break out in a sweat as soon as I eat carbs. Get massive calf pumps when walking and in my arms when working. I sleep like death. I feel kinda toxic or febrile most of the day like I have a flu.

Maybe I have lol. I'm craving sugar. No sexual side effects but the head meds are probably too strong.

Cardio has gone to shit. It gets better after I move around for a bit.

 

[Mfras]

Love reading your anecdotes and experiences man. I couldn’t tolerate it myself, but sure love seeing the results careful usage can give.

Thanks man this is a great forum. I feel comfortable showing the good the bad the ugly. I’m not a bodybuilder though just an old fat guy turning his shit around and doing science experiments on myself.

I’m glad you’re enjoying these specific posts- since it’s your thread. I would feel like a dick letting my cycle log bleed over here but since I have tren and deca in I figured I’d drop a comment and have been enjoying the conversation & learning from other’s experiences.