Combining NPP and Tren

[syuri]

Wanted to try a TRT dose (175mg Cyp Weekly) of test along with 140 Tren (Ace, pinned ED) along with 200 NPP (Pinned ED).
Being experimental

Anyone have experience combining several 19nors? And does the Testosterone dose play a role in terms of side effects?

 

[BALLISTIC]

1 foot on the brake, other foot stomping the gas.

Read this, it may not pertain to you completely but will help you decide. I've put some stuff in there helping explain in bro terms.

Thread 'Paranoia no matter what cycle?' Paranoia no matter what cycle?

 

[Cyp180]

Two 19-nor anabolics ?

 

[eery]

works fine in my experience.

I dont have bad sides from tren or deca so its just the added neurotoxicity thats there.

 

[syuri]

1 foot on the brake, other foot stomping the gas.

Read this, it may not pertain to you completely but will help you decide. I've put some stuff in there helping explain in bro terms.

Thread 'Paranoia no matter what cycle?' Paranoia no matter what cycle?

Thanks for this thread. Read through it, very insightful. Much appreciated!

 

[Psy-chonaut]

Tried combining Npp with Ace this summer, were a bit unsure how things would play out, with everything i have read - but I really wanted the joint support of npp.... So I started playing around with 2 weeks on/off with Ace - felt that 50 mg ed was to much for me back then, lowered the dose to about 25-30mg ed = sweet spot!

So it worked for me, but just be careful ....

 

[ETliens]

I’ve been running tren ace 55mg eod with deca 80mg weekly just fine. I love the joint support.

 

[5TheNegative]

Every experience thread I have read on combining 19nors has been overwhelmingly negative, with a few outliers saying it was amazing.

I think if you have to try it, two fast esters is the move. Get in quick and get out quick when it goes south.

 

[ve79]

Wanted to try a TRT dose (175mg Cyp Weekly) of test along with 140 Tren (Ace, pinned ED) along with 200 NPP (Pinned ED).
Being experimental

Anyone have experience combining several 19nors? And does the Testosterone dose play a role in terms of side effects?

My response to everything is. Everyone is different. Me personally have not tried both in a cycle but I wouldn't run 2 19 nors together

 

[syuri]

My response to everything is. Everyone is different. Me personally have not tried both in a cycle but I wouldn't run 2 19 nors together

Going to try toying around with it. Starting on tuesday. Will create a cycle log too. Only thing I can do is pray to god that I respond fine.

Also ironically being started on an SSRI via my doctor- terrible timing for it, but I’ll probably start taking it after my results with this cycle conclude

 

[syuri]

Tried combining Npp with Ace this summer, were a bit unsure how things would play out, with everything i have read - but I really wanted the joint support of npp.... So I started playing around with 2 weeks on/off with Ace - felt that 50 mg ed was to much for me back then, lowered the dose to about 25-30mg ed = sweet spot!

So it worked for me, but just be careful ....

Thanks for your advice; your dosing was 25-30mg for the Tren? What about your test and NPP dosing?

 

[Psy-chonaut]

Thanks for your advice; your dosing was 25-30mg for the Tren? What about your test and NPP dosing?

My NPP dose was stable all through at 100 mg X 3 weekly = 300mg - So not that high.....

 

[1Megaman]

I have tried it too, ended up at 300 tren 200npp. Had some anxiety sides towards the end but was nothing crazy, also some high BP readings. Great gains but I probably wouldn’t do it again.

 

[Ron OG Mouse]

Is there a reason you are running the test so low? To me if your going to add NPP and Tren I'd bump up the test a little and just make a cycle out of it.

 

[bananafeet]

It's just a female hormone bomb. Both are progestins. So high risk of gyno. Probably some mood disorders etc

If you control your E2 and use cabergoline for the prolactin I can't see what the issue is.

 

[ackmack78]

This is the second cycle I've combined deca and tren together. No issues at all for me. Last cycle I did 600 deca with 175 tren no issues, there was some other stuff in there too even some anadrol. I did use some caber towards the end.

This cycle I've been running tren strategically in 3 week runs. The first run I was on 200 deca and was able to push the tren up to 300 in the final week. I'm a week into my second run with it 60 EOD and on 300 deca now. No issues either time. Not using caber either

 

[Mfras]

I’m running an exploratory tren cycle- not for gains but to gauge my tolerance. I decided to do it now because my bloodwork is the best it’s been, and e2 is steady in the low 20s.

I’m in a long cutting phase, done mostly on trt but I have a few months on a higher cruise stack that I’m planning to stay on until the last 20-25lbs of cutting are done. 300 test, 150 mast, 80 deca, 6iu GH are the basics.

The 80 deca came in maybe a couple months ago- I have noticed some help with joints which was the point, but no strength or other effects. Still, I’ve heard using deca & tren at the same time described as driving a car by hitting the gas and the brake at the same time. The mast can only help with gyno and sides, so there’s that.

I figured that my tren experiment would make sense despite possible interference from my existing (mild) stack, but honestly the decision was influenced largely by the idea that I would probably encounter uncomfortable mental and physical sides from the tren before I even titrated up high enough to get into decent nutrient partitioning let alone see strength gains.

I planned a maximum of 4-6 weeks if no sides make me drop it, and a top dose of 300-350. I never thought I’d get to 150/week but I’m close to 300 now and starting to see glimmers of strength gains with no real sides.

Maybe the poison saturation will build and I’ll see what a bad idea it was. Maybe I’ll have a great run, then find out my bloodwork is lowkey fucked up. Really the scariest outcome would be gaining muscle, losing fat, and not experiencing much sides at all. Not trying to fall in love with tren.

All that said, even if I have a flawless run, which I still doubt will happen, I don’t think I’d plan to run both as primary mass builders at the same time. But while my current experience can be useful as an example of what could work, and might turn out a cautionary tale, I can’t say that I am experienced- just over here trying some dumb shit.

I will say that I really hope you report back after and let us all know how this worked out for you!