Binge Eating and Tren -- Experiences?

This is friendly advice that will save you a lot of grief. Obviously many of us with histories of eating / substance / addiction challenges find our way into PEDs and extremely strict dieting as a form of sublimation, but that really needs to be buttoned up before you start using any more compounds. Eating disorders are the most deadly (for real) psychiatric conditions that exist. Not saying that's the direction OP is heading by any means, but mix an untreated / not in remission eating disorder with a bunch of compounds that impact blood sugar, satiety, dopamine / reward pathways, etc. and you've got an H bomb.
I know a few competitive bodybuilders who grew up with eating disorders and part of that psychology got them into competing. Guess why they got stage shredded and then moon face fat in the off season.

The binge eating, body image issues, and going from one extreme diet to another opposite is textbook telltale signs.

One who showed me his ability to eat over 2lbs of candy, a bag of potato chips and a pizza the night before the show admitted it to me before I finished my sentence. When he sorted those issues out he came at peace with himself and actually did much better in competitions.
 
I know a few competitive bodybuilders who grew up with eating disorders and part of that psychology got them into competing. Guess why they got stage shredded and then moon face fat in the off season.

The binge eating, body image issues, and going from one extreme diet to another opposite is textbook telltale signs.

One who showed me his ability to eat over 2lbs of candy, a bag of potato chips and a pizza the night before the show admitted it to me before I finished my sentence. When he sorted those issues out he came at peace with himself and actually did much better in competitions.
Acceptance and self honesty are key. It's like alcoholism. Those in 12 steps who don't recover are "usually constitutionally incapable of being honest with themselves." After acceptance it becomes empowering to clearly define a disorder because when you can clearly define it, you can have power over it
 
Conservative estimates with my eyes, I have bloodwork. My mental has been improving lately, but it is more related to body image issues than any other external factors, hence the tren lol. I acknowledge that jumping on aggressive cycles in such a mental state is not the best idea, and I will drop my dose down to 150mg/wk to see if it alleviates the hunger pangs for a few more weeks until I conclude the cycle. Spoken like an addict.

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dude y r u resticting calories youre not fat u should just drop the reta ,up the tren and just eat everything in sight until youre 250 lbs lol, youre really wasting drug exposure trying to gain size while lean
 
Bro, you look good. Do you think your body might be trying to tell you something? Like you need food? Especially if your feeling like you are in a constant cut. Maybe let yourself refeed and boost that metabolism..

Im no expert but i definitely want to look like you someday..
To be honest bro this is super counter productive for a rebound phase. Of course after a cut when you are most insulin sensitive and depleted youre going to be extremely hungry. Refeeding aggressively in a state when you are most able to gain body fat is an awful idea. Rebound phases are often more difficult than a cut in terms of appetite because your metabolism is already extremely good when you just ad 80-200 calories and you can grow from adding very little food, because your maintenance is low.

This is the entire point of writing a diet, sticking to the diet and having discipline and consistency. Your body doesn’t know what it needs to grow and your feelings— particularly hunger does not know or care about what is actually necessary or productive

OP grazing on random trash needs to stop if he’s on tren and learn self control, not have the habit be enabled and find delusional ways to cope with it
 
How can a person be so weak mentally while using so many androgens ? Me on cycle nothing bothers me, thats why i do this shit. Muscles and power after you achieve them it gets kind of boring in my opinion.
 
On days I go off the rails it usually starts like this: get home from work being ravenously hungry, then instantly start grazing on random foods before and while my food is heating up. My planned meals will usually consist of a carb (usually potatoes, rice, pasta) and protein (93/7 ground beef, chicken breast, shrimp) which I prepared earlier that week.

The grazing is usually instantly ready junk snack foods like Oreos, loaf cakes, and Nature Valley bars, but it also includes a fair share of cleaner options like watermelon, bananas, mangoes, and boiled eggs. Once I finish my planned meal there's usually a bit more grazing after that, be it cereal, waffles, or whatever other carb I can get my hands on. It's more of a sugar/carb craving than anything else. The carbs also tend to fly through me as I'll be ready to do the same thing in 2-3 hours.

I really need to train myself to just not have the junk foods in the house in the first place and to just be a little more patient, maybe eat my food cold if I have to. It takes a little while for my body to tell me to stop eating and it's usually too late at that point even with all the peptides. My HBA1C is 5.0% and my FBG is around 85 in the morning so I don't think it's because I'm going hypo from the tren or GLPs. I will start experimenting with shorter gaps between meals to prevent these big binges from happening.
So youre just snacking on a bunch random treats and shit? Oreos and loaf cakes? Just don't keep those in the house.... Takes one moment of discipline to not buy at the store vs the constant temptation if it's in your cupboard. Also tren hypoglycemia is the biggest bullshit. lmfao
 
It seems that on my second run with Tren (300 mg a week of Enanthate which I frontloaded with 80mg Ace EOD // my first time I ran 10mg Ace every day, which did nothing but give me side effects), I’ve become absolutely ravenous when it comes to food. I’m no stranger to binge eating; I’ve struggled with it since my mid-teens. I never became extremely obese, but I did peak at 225 lb at 5′8″ when I was 16. This was back when I didn’t care about exercising or diet and just ate whatever my mom made.

Unfortunately for me, instead of turning to drugs to cope with stress/depression, I turned to food. I would eat until my stomach was in agony and my whole body felt sluggish. These binges easily wiped out any calorie deficit I’d built during the week, no matter how aggressive it was.

I had good results with smaller doses of tirzepatide, titrating from 2.5 mg up to 10 mg and dropping from 189 lb to 173 lb before my supply ran out. When I started retatrutide, 2.5 mg hit me harder than the 5 mg of tirzepatide I planned for that day. I felt nauseous and slow when eating, barely managing 1,600 calories a day. That effect wore off by the third shot. I miss that feeling and haven’t felt anything close to it since, even with cagrilintide. As I raised my dose, I made it down to 153 lb, though not with much muscle.

Now, even with high doses of appetite suppressants, Tren has completely overpowered them and made me even hungrier. I think part of the weight gain came from being a bit depressed before the cycle, which got worse during the first four weeks before my mood leveled out. During that time, I was eating 5,000–6,000+ calories or more several days in a row. In just four weeks on Tren I went from 163 lb at a conservative 14% body fat to 180 lb at around 20%. Some of that is water and glycogen, but the initial fat gain was obvious before any tren recomp effect started kicking in.

Current dosages:
200 mg/week Test C (split MWF)
300 mg/week Tren E (split MWF) started 9/19
4 IU HGH daily
12 mg/week Retatrutide (split MF)
3.33 mg/week Semaglutide (split MF)
2 mg/week Cagrilintide (split MF)
20 mg Cardarine daily

Considering adding:
MOTS-C 2 mg daily to help with fatigue on low-calorie days
Tesofensine 500 mcg daily to blunt dopamine spikes from binges and reduce fatigue

My gym progress has indubitably been slowed by my inability to lean down enough to start a proper massing phase. I'm essentially a permacutter without the leanness. I was drawn to Tren because many people said it destroyed their appetite. I’m now in week 7 and stabilizing around 180lb when not loaded with glycogen and water from binges. The fat gain hasn’t been pleasant, but I’m finally seeing some recomp, and the strength gains are addictive, which makes dropping the tren not very appealing.

I expect a lot of you just to say something along the lines of: "lol ur using tren under 200lb? Drop the tren and kys now." or tell me that I'm a pig with no self-control who's looking for shortcuts (which I'll admit that you're not entirely wrong), but I don't care. I just want to know if there are other people who relate to my experience, whether it comes to bingeing, tren appetite, or the GLP ineffectiveness, as it seems that all I can find are people who can't eat at all on 2mg of reta.
It seems you focus a lot on the wrong things. Drugs will only get you so far.
If you are binging in a uncontrollable manner you might want to look at what other factors besides the drugs come into play like meal planning, sleep and water intake, emotional wellbeing, etc.

Also, why not switch the tren out for another compound if it is truly what triggers your hunger? Maybe var or winny?
 

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