Another Tren A vs E

[SwolieGuacamole]

Yes I’ve searched. Most threads are old, or cluttered with useless talk.


To keep it brief. I’ve always ran Ace. I get the typical insomnia, and rage over 200mg.

All of the tren color talk has me wanting to give E a run, as is typically lighter. And I also want to stretch it a little longer than my usual 6 week stent.

The feedback seems highly inconsistent. Do any of you see more sides on E over Ace. This would be dosing being equal according to ester weight.

Thanks!

 

[readalot]

To keep it brief. I’ve always ran Ace. I get the typical insomnia, and rage over 200mg.

How do you run it? Dosing frequency?

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

How do you run it? Dosing frequency?

I pin ace ED, mixed with test. Getting tired of being a pin cushion lol.

 

[RockyP]

I’ve run both at roughly equivalent dosages. I pin enanthate 3x weekly and ace daily. I run very low dosages tho, 25 mg enanthate 3x weekly and 10 mg ace daily. For me I did not notice any difference in effects / sides. It may be due to the low dosing if you know you tolerate acetate maybe try enanthate at a slightly lower dosage, say 150 per week after 3-4 weeks can bump it up if you like.

Daily pins do get tiresome even with insulin pins.

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

I’ve run both at roughly equivalent dosages. I pin enanthate 3x weekly and ace daily. I run very low dosages tho, 25 mg enanthate 3x weekly and 10 mg ace daily. For me I did not notice any difference in effects / sides. It may be due to the low dosing if you know you tolerate acetate maybe try enanthate at a slightly lower dosage, say 150 per week after 3-4 weeks can bump it up if you like.

Daily pins do get tiresome even with insulin pins.

I was going to start it at 150mg actually.

Have you ever done 2x a week vs 3x? Wondering if tren would be better ran having more consistent serum levels to lessen sides. Unless I’m over thinking it.

 

[RockyP]

I was going to start it at 150mg actually.

Have you ever done 2x a week vs 3x? Wondering if tren would be better ran having more consistent serum levels to lessen sides. Unless I’m over thinking it.

I’ve not tried 2x. I’m sure lots of guys could get away with it. But I agree that the sides are exacerbated by fluctuating blood levels so more frequent shots the better. The tren enanthate has a longer half life than test enanthate so 2x weekly should be ok if you want to minimize the pins.

 

[pewex]

Personally, I haven't noticed much difference in results or side effects, but I usually run a lower dose of tren E compared to A because of the compounding effect it has over time, something to keep in mind.

 

[readalot]

I was going to start it at 150mg actually.

Have you ever done 2x a week vs 3x? Wondering if tren would be better ran having more consistent serum levels to lessen sides. Unless I’m over thinking it.

Seems to me you would want to pin ED to minimize your peak serum levels and titrate up not down. That to me means starting at 5 mg/d and ramping up in a methodical fashion to establish where negative sides outweigh the positive? So ramp in increments of 5 to 10 mg/d every week or 2?

 

[Liter O' Test]

ester weight is meaningless , not going to say anymore than that
just start very fucking low and see how you react.
I haven't used tren since like 10 years ago and I felt my first 15mg e pin same day
doing 45mg a week which is just shy of the 50mg a week parabolan dosing

 

[RockyP]

ester weight is meaningless , not going to say anymore than that
just start very fucking low and see how you react.
I haven't used tren since like 10 years ago and I felt my first 15mg e pin same day
doing 45mg a week which is just shy of the 50mg a week parabolan dosing

How did the cycle go at that dosage?

 

[readalot]

Example ramp with ED pinning

35 mg/week (x weeks)
70 mg/week (y weeks)
105 mg/week (z weeks)

Etc.

Tradeoff analysis to find minimum effective dose where you can tolerate the sides you find acceptable.

 

[readalot]

ester weight is meaningless ,

Could you clarify?

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

Personally, I haven't noticed much difference in results or side effects, but I usually run a lower dose of tren E compared to A because of the compounding effect it has over time, something to keep in mind.

Might be misunderstanding, but what do you mean by the compounding effect over time with E?

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

Example ramp with ED pinning

35 mg/week (x weeks)
70 mg/week (y weeks)
105 mg/week (z weeks)

Etc.

Tradeoff analysis to find minimum effective dose where you can tolerate the sides you find acceptable.

Yeah that’s typically how I taper ace. 75 week 1-2. 100 week 3-4. 125-50 week 5-6.

For E, I was just going to keep it consistent at 150/w. Maybe not the best approach lol.

 

[Liter O' Test]

How did the cycle go at that dosage?

im about a month in, tighter, fuller, also started tirz at this time so some overlap. angrier, happier, sleep sucks.
dont know how i survived 700mg my first go.

im just using low TRT so all muscle effect is from the tren
very dry and veiny at this low test dose and prbably some tirz effect aswell

 

[RockyP]

Example ramp with ED pinning

35 mg/week (x weeks)
70 mg/week (y weeks)
105 mg/week (z weeks)

Etc.

Tradeoff analysis to find minimum effective dose where you can tolerate the sides you find acceptable.

This is the move. I misunderstood the original post about 200 mg acetate in that it was not the minimal effective dose but where the sides were present. We want to aim lower than that. Get the benefits without / with minimal sides. Especially with this bastard trenbolone.

 

[SwolieGuacamole]

im about a month in, tighter, fuller, also started tirz at this time so some overlap. angrier, happier, sleep sucks.
dont know how i survived 700mg my first go.

im just using low TRT so all muscle effect is from the tren

200+ makes me a raging animal. Idk how guys push past 300 lol.

 

[readalot]

To keep it brief. I’ve always ran Ace. I get the typical insomnia, and rage over 200mg.

So why not keep it under 200 mg/week?

Unfortunately ED pinning guarantees minimum serum peak levels.

Whether TRE or TRA no matter (practically) with ED pinning once you account for ester weight, except you can bail faster and come up to stable blood levels faster with TRA.

 

[pewex]

Might be misunderstanding, but what do you mean by the compounding effect over time with E?

With enanthate, each shot keeps releasing for a week+ after you pin it, so by weeks 4-6 you've basically got multiple doses stacking on top of each other.

With ace, it stabilizes faster and clears quicker, so it doesn't "pile up" the same way.

 

[Liter O' Test]

chatgpt told me to use glycine, taurine and L-theanine before bed to chill out.

also taking zyrtec and some histamine pill for the gut because i read on another forum that tren and histamine are very related.