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Demondosage said:
Mike-xxx, did you ever have anyone from your youth that influenced you? Like a football coach, father, grandfather, anyone that showed you anything? Surely you didn’t learn everything in life from television or the internet. Who were the influences in your life? I’m not trying to be an ass I’m seriously just curious. For me it was my grandfather, I would work with him fixing up a cpl places that he owned, cut his grass, hell half the time I think he came up with jobs just to give me a way to work and earn some kind of money. He was a tough old bastard, navy man and Pearl Harbor survivor. Anyways, he was a big influence in my life. Did you have anyone as a kid you looked up to or took time out of their day to help you out or show you things?
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No!

I did it myself. I couldn't stand some cocksucker telling me what to do.

Sure I was out hunting, trapping, fishing, with my dad, standard guy stuff. That said I didn't spend much time with him, I preferred to do things on my own.

No one was sitting around watching TV when I was a kid. As soon as class was out you hit the ground running and came back home starving. As a 12 yo you might cover 20 miles on your bike in one day. You didn't want to hang out with your parents as they were assholes and I was specifically told not to come home until dark.

I've always done my best work and accomplished the most when on my own. Others have caused me to always compromise and fuck it up to where I was frustrated. I don't like working with others, as soon as those assholes come around I wanted out of their. Group projects where we all hold hands and smile while we reach over and jerk each other off just isn't for me.

That said I had a lot of friends, but they had my personality, I consider them loners that wanted to do their own shit and not be dictated to. I would have been the total opposite of someone to play team sports. My parents tried to force me into that and I quit that stuff as soon as possible. I was into dangerous sports where you put your life on the line, that adrenaline you get when you just barely pull something off and avoid death.

Now I did enjoy racquetball, but that was only because I used to hit the ball over onto the other courts when their game was heating up and piss people off while they were playing their games leading to these guys having full meltdowns running out of their courts looking for someone to kill. That's what I describe as good wholesome fun.
 
mike-xxx said:
No!

I did it myself. I couldn't stand some cocksucker telling me what to do.

Sure I was out hunting, trapping, fishing, with my dad, standard guy stuff. That said I didn't spend much time with him, I preferred to do things on my own.

No one was sitting around watching TV when I was a kid. As soon as class was out you hit the ground running and came back home starving. As a 12 yo you might cover 20 miles on your bike in one day. You didn't want to hang out with your parents as they were assholes and I was specifically told not to come home until dark.

I've always done my best work and accomplished the most when on my own. Others have caused me to always compromise and fuck it up to where I was frustrated. I don't like working with others, as soon as those assholes come around I wanted out of their. Group projects where we all hold hands and smile while we reach over and jerk each other off just isn't for me.

That said I had a lot of friends, but they had my personality, I consider them loners that wanted to do their own shit and not be dictated to. I would have been the total opposite of someone to play team sports. My parents tried to force me into that and I quit that stuff as soon as possible. I was into dangerous sports where you put your life on the line, that adrenaline you get when you just barely pull something off and avoid death.

Now I did enjoy racquetball, but that was only because I used to hit the ball over onto the other courts when their game was heating up and piss people off while they were playing their games leading to these guys having full meltdowns running out of their courts looking for someone to kill. That's what I describe as good wholesome fun.
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Yea, I was done with team sports myself by the time I was in high school, sort of what steered me into the gym because it was all on me that way. The biking around town was fun because we never thought ,”oh man that’s too far,” as long as you had a bike to get there on it didn’t matter, it really wasn’t even a concern
 
Villain said:
Lol, this makes sense o_O
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Basically people that weren't looking for popularity, acceptance. Had no desire to fit in. We're comfortable with who they are and not looking to take on an identity which is mostly a facade.

Loners have a different energy and interests, not anti-social, but often choosy and refined in their tastes, they know how to spot a dickhead a mile away. They aren't gonna join your club, they're not gonna volunteer at the local nursing home. They despise networking. They never feel lonely unless they're surrounded by a bunch of boring people.

They hate dickheads like this:
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mike-xxx said:
Basically people that weren't looking for popularity, acceptance. Had no desire to fit in. Were comfortable.

Loners have a different energy and interests, not anti-social, but often choosy and refined in their tastes, they know how to spot a dickhead a mile away. They aren't gonna join your club, they're not gonna volunteer at the local nursing home. They despise networking. They never feel lonely unless they're surrounded by a bunch of boring people.
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Bro, start a forum. I'll be your biggest fan/supporter ;)
Seriously !!!
 
mike-xxx said:
You ain't seen nothing tell you seen my dad.
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One of the more difficult tests of manhood is overcoming one’s father (or lack of). My father was a tyrant, still is. Complete sociopath, and fairly sadistic. Very pessimistic, very negative.

To an extent I became like him, certainly when I was younger. But I had a drive in me to make sure I didn’t father my kids that way. It took years of exploring human behavior to come to terms with my upbringing. And many many years of honest self reflection to become the father I always wanted to be.

You can do the same, even if you don’t want kids. Living life as a misanthrope is a miserable experience. Not to mention you just perpetuate the same cycle in every relationship you have.
 
Villain said:
because he was retarded and basically clueless to life
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In Gumps defence.....ignorance is bliss? LOL ;)

Imagine how great your adult life would be if you only saw the good in everything and nothing was a serious problem. D'ya remember the innocence of your youth as a child? That's the world forest gump lives in.
 
mike-xxx said:
Too many people have this expectation of being wealthy from watching social media.

I grew up in the age before the internet(my first resume after college was typed out on a 20lb mechanical typewriter), and even though I had some exposure to the net when I was in my last years of university, it was mostly only used back then for what the true purpose of the net was and that was to download raunchy porn in the library when no one was looking and leave it up on the screen and walk away while laughing your ass off........those were the days when the world wasn't littered with security cameras. There you sit with your buddies and you wait in the corner with a magazine as some girl sits down and moves her mouse to drop the screen saver to discover her prize. This was back in the days of Windows NT 3.0 when it took half an hour to download such a pic.

The point of this story is that the best things in life are always free. Don't look for stuff that cost money, make real memories that count like my story above. I don't remember the vehicles I owned, but I remember young women screaming in shock at those vulgar images and having a good time with my dorm buddies.
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Oh, that golden time when people communicated live, when they really went online to work or look for some necessary and valuable information. When social media wasn't eating up our time. I remember how from loading the computer and when the lines changed there, it was felt that this is the future. The joy was sincere.
 
mike-xxx said:
I've seen the movie, good movie from the stand point of an idealist that wanted freedom. The problem is he forgot that he was far removed from the survival skills needed to live wild and ended up dead.

I don't worry about the future world, I suspect it will be a mess much like it is today only worse in many ways, but for many people it will be better because they get a hard-on for technology as if that's gonna solve your main problem.

Like the dude from the above movie. All he needed was some food, water and shelter and he was good. He had the water and shelter, the food was the problem. Which I find absurd in an age where we see all these gizmos and gadgets that we think make our lives better and we haven't even solved the problem of developing technology that can feed a person easily should they decide to walk off the plantation(which of course they don't want their slaves running off).

Which brings up the Question of Technology that many philosophers have tried to explain....is it used to serve us or are we here to serve it....it would appear that we exist as slaves to the technology as I don't see it having improved my life having gone from little technology in my youth compared to today where everyone stares at screens like assimilated borgs.
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In fact, all gadgets, computers and other equipment is just to subordinate us to the desire to buy and instill that it is a must. Only business, only dependence, and all this is not for our good, and only imposed needs.
 
mike-xxx said:
No!

I did it myself. I couldn't stand some cocksucker telling me what to do.

Sure I was out hunting, trapping, fishing, with my dad, standard guy stuff. That said I didn't spend much time with him, I preferred to do things on my own.

No one was sitting around watching TV when I was a kid. As soon as class was out you hit the ground running and came back home starving. As a 12 yo you might cover 20 miles on your bike in one day. You didn't want to hang out with your parents as they were assholes and I was specifically told not to come home until dark.

I've always done my best work and accomplished the most when on my own. Others have caused me to always compromise and fuck it up to where I was frustrated. I don't like working with others, as soon as those assholes come around I wanted out of their. Group projects where we all hold hands and smile while we reach over and jerk each other off just isn't for me.

That said I had a lot of friends, but they had my personality, I consider them loners that wanted to do their own shit and not be dictated to. I would have been the total opposite of someone to play team sports. My parents tried to force me into that and I quit that stuff as soon as possible. I was into dangerous sports where you put your life on the line, that adrenaline you get when you just barely pull something off and avoid death.

Now I did enjoy racquetball, but that was only because I used to hit the ball over onto the other courts when their game was heating up and piss people off while they were playing their games leading to these guys having full meltdowns running out of their courts looking for someone to kill. That's what I describe as good wholesome fun.
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Man, you really enjoyed the fact that others were an inconvenience. Or I misunderstood. Those. I understand that you are a kind of loner, and all sorts of communities and teamwork are worse than death for you, I understood that. You really got pleasure from doing shitty things to others, right? Maybe you're a maniac ? :)
 
Hightower said:
Man, you really enjoyed the fact that others were an inconvenience. Or I misunderstood. Those. I understand that you are a kind of loner, and all sorts of communities and teamwork are worse than death for you, I understood that. You really got pleasure from doing shitty things to others, right? Maybe you're a maniac ? :)
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Loners have a different energy level.

You have your extroverts that society champions, the outgoing, marketing, networking social butterfly types. That is what the United States loves, because America is all about advertising and basically lying through their teeth. They hand you a bag of shit with a great big grin and some sexy words and look at you strange if you point out that it's just a bag of shit.

Then there are the loners. Totally different energy level. I will not waste my energy on networking(I couldn't do it even if I tried), I won't sell myself. I won't sit around and feed you lies in order to get you to do something. I'm more likely to warn you about problems and look on the negative side, not because we are defeatists, but because we want to consider the negative first and see if those problems can be avoided and I prefer to be totally honest and up front that most things in life are just a big bag of dog shit.
 
mike-xxx said:
Loners have a different energy level.

You have your extroverts that society champions, the outgoing, marketing, networking social butterfly types. That is what the United States loves, because America is all about advertising and basically lying through their teeth. They hand you a bag of shit with a great big grin and some sexy words and look at you strange if you point out that it's just a bag of shit.

Then there are the loners. Totally different energy level. I will not waste my energy on networking(I couldn't do it even if I tried), I won't sell myself. I won't sit around and feed you lies in order to get you to do something. I'm more likely to warn you about problems and look on the negative side, not because we are defeatists, but because we want to consider the negative first and see if those problems can be avoided and I prefer to be totally honest and up front that most things in life are just a big bag of dog shit.
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Perhaps try "introvert" instead of "loner" bro.
Some members here seem to be perceiving the word "loner" as something weird/strange.

Introverts (aka loners in this discussion) are actually far more powerful and in control of their own lives and surroundings than any extrovert could ever be .

You know it, and so do I
;)
 
Hightower said:
Man, you really enjoyed the fact that others were an inconvenience. Or I misunderstood. Those. I understand that you are a kind of loner, and all sorts of communities and teamwork are worse than death for you, I understood that. You really got pleasure from doing shitty things to others, right? Maybe you're a maniac ? :)
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Sociopath, if not psychopath
 
1tank1 said:
Perhaps try "introvert" instead of "loner" bro.
Some members here seem to be perceiving the word "loner" as something weird/strange.

Introverts (aka loners in this discussion) are actually far more powerful and in control of their own lives and surroundings than any extrovert could ever be .

You know it, and so do I
;)
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That’s why I had to laugh when he said his big group of friends were all loners. That’s like total oxymoron.
 
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