Im drying out on 10mg and i would like to think im purging, but ive only been on accutane for like 11 days now. So i think my acne is just getting worse honestly. But i was thinking about antibiotics to treat the acne hopefully in the shorter term if it would clear up faster. Like i said, my skin and lips are definitely drying out, but ive read that it can take 3-4 months before a purge can even happen on higher doses. The thing with china is there is no way to know the dosing, whereas accufine should be close with dosing aside for maybe some degradation. I think pct 24/7 has accufine higher milligrams cheap, like 2.50 for 40mg i think. But then again there is $50 for shipping, so i dont know. For me its less about price and more about knowing what i am getting (not that price doesnt matter). I still look into it, but i wanted to know if anyone had luck with antibiotics working faster to clear the acne and then just run the accutane to finish and keep the acne away longer term
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white-boyka
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I’m about to start a course of low dose isotretinoin 5-10mg a day, starting at 5 and probably moving up to 10mg. just have some small spots to clear up and want to shrink my sebacous glands. i’ve seen some talk about hairloss from this medication. is it something to worry about at all on such a low dosage? i may perma dose 5mg after clearing up spots and shrinking sebacous glands, but will see later down the line.
i’m running dutasteride 2.5mg ED and ru58841 before bed for hair.
i’m running dutasteride 2.5mg ED and ru58841 before bed for hair.
Thats exactly what i needed to know. But the indian pharma i am using i only see resteclin (tetracycline) 500mg. I dont know much about the antibiotics which is why i have been hesitant to get them. I also read somewhere that you shouldnt take them together for whatever reason. But i figure if i am taking a micro dose of the accutane, I dont think it will be a problem. The dosing of the antibiotic is what I really need to know. I dont see doxycycline listed specifically, only tetracycline which i think doxycycline falls under. But i will look more into it. Thank you, this is exactly what i needed
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mikeh1998
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Idk about “clear up”, it’s not invisible, but it’s so much more dull and less noticeable unless you’re up close.
Like someone said it seems like accutane works on one part of your body at a time. I first noticed dryness then body acne gone and now face acne reduced too.
10 mg x 100 capsules is nothing unfortunately you will have to buy more if you want to get anywhere and so do I.
Btw i’m using tren E too so the fact that my body acne is actually reducing when last time I tried tren A it flared up is proof it’s working.
mikeh1998
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dude that’s completely retarded stop reading
Yeah im on a low dose of tren e as well which caused the flare up. I dont need it to be gone, but reduce. I have some painful horns all over my shoulders and some on my neck, none on my face and minimal on my back/arms. Im in the process of ordering 100 more 20mg, and 100 30mg. I plan to taper to 20 and eventually 30 if my body allows, then taper back down to 10 as it clears up some. Even if i have a relapse, the intensity and frequency of flare ups should reduce in theory. If i relapse i will just have to buy another round, but i would prefer immediate relief from the antibiotics if possible. Im ordering from a pct24x7 now and they have doxycycline, pct zone only had tetrecycline. They are similar and both treat acne, but doxycycline is preferred because its absorption is better and less side effects. Hopefully all goes according to plan because i will probably be scarring from this flare up
Photon
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I read that somewhere but i dont know why. I know both come with risks. doxycycline kills good bacteria and increases the risks of certain types of cancer from what i read. Accutane decreases bone density and can impact joints. Why do you say not to run both, i think ghoul mentioned it could lead to brain swelling but havent had too much time to look into it
Photon
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I read something about a 7 day washout period, but that implies the antibiotics were taken first. I started accutane first because it wasnt that bad at first, but its getting worse and im starting to get horns. I dont know how long i would have to wait for accutane to be washed out because it accumulates in the body
2ndchancesNK
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If you’re purging, it’s not a bad thing, and that doesn’t mean to stop now. The drug is doing its job to clear you. As you get further along, these flare ups will become less common and nothing will stick around for long.
isotretinoin’s half life is roughly 20 hours. It should be out of your system in around 5.5 days, but call it a week.
Thats the thing though, ive only been on 10mg per day for about 11 or 12 days. Ive heard purging happening at months 2-3 at higher doses, so i dont think im purging. I just think my acne is getting worse
2ndchancesNK
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I think you’re in your head a little bit much man. Where did you hear this? Most reports are that the “purging” phase will occur in the first month or so, where acne will get considerably worse and then spontaneously heal.
What’s higher doses? I’m half way through my third week and I’m at 120mg each day at just under 110kg body weight and I know for a fact I’m going through the purging phase.
If anything, I would think it would happen later for people low dosing because the drug hasn’t reached a high enough concentration in your body.
Well thats the point im trying to make, i dont think im purging yet because im on a super low dose and have only been on for about 11 or 12 days. I think my flare up is just getting worse. Higher doses (120mg) will make the purging phase come quicker, but im only taking 10mg a day right now
2ndchancesNK
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That’s the tough thing with isotretinoin — just like with AAS, our response to it is so individually dependent. What might happen to you at 10mg might not happen to me.
Correct me if I’m wrong, as I’m just trying to be as helpful as possible, but are you taking accutane to manage current acne and also as a prophylactic measure for the worsening of such breakouts while on Tren?
My take for you is this:
If you stop the accutane for a week, you’ll be safe to run doxycycline. It could work, but I don’t exactly know how severe your acne has become and whether it is past the point that doxy will be all that effective in lessening it. I’ve taken Doxy cycles many times to manage rosacea and breakouts, and it does work, but it will fuck with your GI more severely than accutane will, especially while running tren.
Or, stick it out with accutane and play with the dosing until you find what works.
The difference between the two is doxy might be a shot in the dark — might help you manage breakouts, but IME if it is bad enough, you will be left with cystic acne that would benefit from accutane after you drop tren. With accutane, it WILL work to clear your breakouts, it’s just a matter of time and patience.
2ndchancesNK
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I said fuck it and just bumped it up to 140mg ED going into week 4. The more I do the math, the more I realize how much more quickly I can finish just by adding 10-20mg here and there. Hopefully can push it up to 160mg, but we’ll see. It definitely took time to adapt to 120mg.
Skin and lips are dry as hell. Running a humidifier at night and basically bathing in Cerave Healing Ointment is helpful, especially with the humidity dropping so low on some days here.
The tentative plan is run 160mg ED into the 12th week and then begin dropping dose. After my 4th week I’ll be at 3300mg and at the end of the 12th week I’ll be right around 1300mg. Getting me over the 120mg/kg cumulative dose in less than 3 months. A bitch, but I think it’s worth it.
Skin and lips are dry as hell. Running a humidifier at night and basically bathing in Cerave Healing Ointment is helpful, especially with the humidity dropping so low on some days here.
The tentative plan is run 160mg ED into the 12th week and then begin dropping dose. After my 4th week I’ll be at 3300mg and at the end of the 12th week I’ll be right around 1300mg. Getting me over the 120mg/kg cumulative dose in less than 3 months. A bitch, but I think it’s worth it.
You dont experience joint pain at those doses? I have read that higher doses will reduce strength and can cause long lasting joint pain. I dont blame you for wanting to get it done quick, a few months high dose and you dont have to worry about acne ever again. Im considering doing it myself but the joint pain and strength reduction is what is keeping me from doing it. When i bought the accutane, i didnt even know how to dose it and what doctors perscribe as normal doses. But 160 and up seems to be a dose that doctors normally perscribe
2ndchancesNK
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I absolutely do! It’s mainly the worst in the morning hours, but manageable throughout the day. There’s quite a bit of fatigue with it as well.
I’m taking 4-5g EPA/DHA per day with a fish oil supplement and making sure I’m having upwards of 2 gallons of water a day on top of taking GLOW and 3.5 iu of GH ED. I believe all these things have added up.
A thorough warm up and making sure I’m well fed has been huge for workouts.
Trust me, it’s not ideal, especially when initially upping the dose, but my body seems to get used to it pretty quickly.
2ndchancesNK
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So a few days from finishing up month 1 and I’ve definitely become a bit addicted to the progress. I bumped it to 180mg the last few days, and tbh, it’s manageable, but the dryness is on a whole different level and I’m not sure it’s something I want to manage long term.
@Ghoul I’m surprised to already report that pores on my nose that were beginning to look like pits (something I noticed introducing moderately high DHT’s) have almost closed entirely and are pushing out sebaceous filaments in mass. My nose feels like sandpaper, I guess? It’s honestly a breath of fresh air.
My cysts that from previous experience would take 6-12 months to begin to flatten (eventually leaving a small indent) are beginning to go away. I almost wish I had done this a long time ago, even as a prophylactic measure for managing AAS induced acne.
@Ghoul I’m surprised to already report that pores on my nose that were beginning to look like pits (something I noticed introducing moderately high DHT’s) have almost closed entirely and are pushing out sebaceous filaments in mass. My nose feels like sandpaper, I guess? It’s honestly a breath of fresh air.
My cysts that from previous experience would take 6-12 months to begin to flatten (eventually leaving a small indent) are beginning to go away. I almost wish I had done this a long time ago, even as a prophylactic measure for managing AAS induced acne.
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