A tough decision (GF problems)

[GeaR_and_SauCe]

I actually would like to start a new thread about the differences in the sexual responsibilities and guidlines for a man and women. Today, there seem to be no good girls left, at least in the heavily populated areas of the countries. Theres more girls out there without dads and father figures and they are never taught how to truely treat themselves and other people. Now I'm not saying that every girl without a father is like this because its just not true. I just know that the girls who have done me wrong in my life have been ones with no or bad relationships with their fathers.

Now to my point. There is a reason why girls can be considered sluts and guys not. First off not every guy could have sex with every girl of his choice. For women, they could at least get sex for the majority of the guys they want by just merely offering it. For example, if I were to walk up a street of row homes with my girlfriend and she were to watch a man get home from work and go into his house and then knock on his door and flat out offer him sex, there is a resonible chance he would accept and invite her in. Now, if I were to knock on a women's door and offer her sex I would most likely get a punch in the mouth and a cop car at the curb. Do you see the difference? For guys, they try and take what they can get. For girls they see what they can get and they take what they want. Thats why it is unrespectable for a girl to find a different guy to sleep with everynight. First off, for both genders, its dirty and risky to do that. Second, for girls, it is not difficult for them to find a different willing dick each day, it is not an accomplishment, rather they are giving up themselves. A girl should be lusted after, she should never comprimise her dignity for some dick, because its too easy for them to get. For a guy, I feel it wouldn't be right but it would be more of an accomplishment for him to find and fuck as many girls as possible in his lifetime. Each piece of ass should be an accomplishment. If it isnt, than it was too easy and she was a whore. If you understand what I'm trying to say and feel you can say it better, than please elaborate.

 

[Joe West]

i think youre no better than her now bro.

just dump her and move on, youre spinning your tires. to be sure id let her know how she fucked up, but this is gratuitous.

shes sure to make many other men miserable, as well as herself. let her wallow in the misry of her own creation and get bac to making yourself happy without it being at her expense.

ive been hurt, badly at times, like everyone here. but i just cant muster up the hate to be coldly vindictave. i blow up and then its over, i go and lick ym wounds. when it comes to women, revenge serves no purpose. mainly cause you cant really get any. but they can surely get us.

perhaps your doing things right, i dunno. cause my drop it and let it go approach has left me with a distinct and pronounced cold and suspicous streak thats bled over into many portions of my life. i just keep my head down, walk through it and survive.

perhaps there are no answers. disreguard everything i said.

 

[101Chemistry]

Be careful what you do my friend. Because if you keep this game up for too long exactly like you're playing it, she will eventually leave, and then you'll miss it worse than before.
You may think she's all yours, but if a good player comes along she's off. And that's because you're not using this newfound power in order to create positive attraction (you know, the kind of attraction that leaves women with the puppy-dog look). Just my 2 cents.

As for men-women relationships, there are guidelines for both. Only women don't commit to a relationship as easy as most men do. If you had 5-6 girls hitting on you every day you'd see things differently. She probably has at least 5-6 men hitting on her every day. You are currently a challenge, which makes you win. Try and be a positive challenge, not a negative one, it shouldn't make you feel like less of a man.

 

[Hypertrophiac]

G and S,

you said something great that i never thought of. for a guy every new piece of ass is an accomplishment because theres a challenge to it, for a girl there is no challenge. but the opposite side of that is the relationship/emotional attachment issue. for a girl, its an accomplishment to get a guy to emotionally attach/want a relationship with them....for a guy there is not much of a challenge because most women get emotionally attached easily. you are her emotional attachment accomplishment.....ever thought thats why she still wants to keep you in her life? its like how a guy never breaks ties with a girl if the sex is really good and she's willing any time....we never want to give up a future booty call, just like a girl never wants to give up a future male emotional attachment.

 

[GeaR_and_SauCe]

You all have some really good points, they all seem to be correct in their own way. But I'm starting to realize that the more I read the more confused I get. Its basically us here trying to figure out women. It will never happen because the reason they are so hard to figure out is because they are always so self-contradictory. They intensly covet what they can't or shouldn't have until they get it, once it is theres they lose interest. Then, once it goes away, they want it more than ever.

I told this girl that I was going to hangout with some other girls tomorrow night and that if she wanted to meet up with us, she could. She burst into tears and didnt stop crying until she fell asleep. It makes no sense to me that when I tell her straight up that I'm going to hang out with girls she gets so upset, yet I'm supposed to take the fact that she wouldn't answer my phone calls the day before I came to miami because she was too busy getting railed by some stranger.

I tried once again to break it off and leave her tonight. I didn't even get off her street when my cell phone began ringing. I don't get it. She didn't want me when I was calling and she was fucking but now that I'm leaving its breaking her heart.

I have to tell you that I'm past being hurt about this situation and I could really care less if she stays or goes. I dont really treat her like shit on purpose, its just that in the middle of a good time I will suddenly think of her climbing into bed with this guy. Im not hurt anymore as much as I am confused. She doesn't understand that actions speak louder than words and that whats done is done. If she really felt that way about me she would have never made such a fast decision to have sex with someone else. And its not like I wasn't around or talking to her, it was only 5 days without me and I was talking to her and texting her for hours each day.

She says that all of this has made her realize how much she loves me but what am I supposed to believe. I'm 100% sure its time for her to go. She realizes it more and more each day. Although it seems to be killing her, it makes it even worse that she made her own bed and that I'm forcing her to lie in it. But, I have no choice. I never wanted it like this but she made it that way. She has to deal with the consequences.

 

[Joe West]

she, like most women, are impulsive. there arent any consequences for them for there actions really.

in many ways, women naturally have what we strive to attain. and never get i may add lmfao.

for whatever reasons, some guy strikes her as someone she wants. she goes for it and often gets it. its just a way of life for them, and is the major reason why women throw men away, cause we arent special or unique to them at all.

i was talking to a chick once upon a time, who swore that as far as sex and dating went she had been turned down less than 10 times. stand back and imagine that. i dunno about you all, but given a bad weekend i can prolly get rejected as much as this woman had in her entire life.

so on top of being raised undoubtedly to think her shit doesnt stink, her world reflects that fact back at her at every turn. which is why they go to pieces like this girl is with this dood. a major part of there personality and ego is taking a huge hit. men are conditioned, if theyre smart, to expect rejection around every turn.

i have a feeling this cascades down into most portions of our lives, as most women see the cup as half full, us half empty. cause no amount of conditioning can full insulate one from the realities of life.

 

[Grizzly]

Wait, so now we're justifying calling women sluts out of jealousy? If you had the opportunity to nail any woman, any time, you would, so that's a terrible ass argument.

 

[GeaR_and_SauCe]

The whole point is, we don't have the chance to nail every girl. Thats why we would instantanously do it. A girl on the other hand is usually in a situation where if she decides she wants sex from a certain person, she could probably have it. If I could walk into a bar and make suggestive body language to specific girls and they would probably respond postively, then we wouldn't have these problems and we wouldn't be discussing this. In the end, its the girl's decision whether she will allow sex to happen or not. It is not up to us so we take what we can get. Grizzly you are wrong, you cannot see both sides as equal because they are clearly different perspectives.

 

[Helterskelter]

Dude, you are one cool motherfucker!

You're so cool I bet you grabbed her by the hair and smacked her head into the head board when having sex. Ooooh yeah, you go toughguy!

Did you put it in her ass without asking and "make" her suck your dick afterwards. Damn, you so bad, cool guy!

Yeah, I bet you told her! Ooooh yeah, you told her how big of a whore she was when she wanted to have sex. Then did you make her let you come on her face because of the whore she is? Damn, I really wish I could be as cool as you!

Grow up, you fucking douche!

ROFL! ROFL!

 

[seand95]

I only have one thing to say about this. It's not advice related to this girl, it's advice realted to you. It's advice related to you and women but to you and men as well.

In any social setting keeping a calm and poised attitude will make people respect you, and generally listen to you a lot more.

In this particular situation, you had a very easy decision to make. Do I, or do I not continue this relationship. Do I want a relationship with her, be it a serious one or plain fucking, or do I not want one. If you decide for a relationship, than you must control yourself and manipulate her. Manipulate manipulate manipulate. The fact that you got into this situation in the first place tells me that you hadn't manipulated her from the start, which you should have.

Throwing shit around the house will not score you any points, will not raise a woman's interest level (since she cheated, her interest level was low, so if you want a relationship you want to heighten her interest level), and will not make you look like a man in any situation. It's random agression.

An example of good aggression in this sort of situation is to toy with her mind, make her confess everything, make her arrive to the conclusion that not only is she a no good whore, but she also had considerably less fun and sexual-fun with the other guy, and that you are the only path to redemption, but, of course, you will now be a difficult, hard, yet wonderful path to walk upon. At this point she should be of course crying and sucking your cock my friend.

My 2 cents.

Regards.

Dude, what a breakdown! sick bro!

 

[seand95]

The whole point is, we don't have the chance to nail every girl. Thats why we would instantanously do it. A girl on the other hand is usually in a situation where if she decides she wants sex from a certain person, she could probably have it. If I could walk into a bar and make suggestive body language to specific girls and they would probably respond postively, then we wouldn't have these problems and we wouldn't be discussing this. In the end, its the girl's decision whether she will allow sex to happen or not. It is not up to us so we take what we can get. Grizzly you are wrong, you cannot see both sides as equal because they are clearly different perspectives.

My freind, you're setting yourself up for some serious future bullshit. A freind of mine was in the same predicament a couple years ago when his girlfreind went home with some guy and sucked him off (in my opinion worse than getting fucked) afer a night out with the girls. She confessed, he bailed. She wanted him back and did everything to keep him around. (sound like a familiar situation)
He treated her in high contempt for over a year, treated her pretty unfairly and misused her pretty bad. (ie. fuckin other chicks, not respecting her)
You may say he was in full right to do this. But over time they comprimised and he began treating her well again. Six months go by of normal relationship status and she begins to remember all the shit he put her through for about a year. She wanted to break up and wanted nothing to do with him, much to his disapproval and misunderstanding.
So the cycle still goes on today. they started dating at 18, their now 22 and they still fuck every now and then and hate eachother. Before long he's going to get the ho pregnant and be stuck with the cumdumpster for life!
Dude, be nice about it, but bail. Your not doing yourself any favors. If thats what it takes to rebuild your self-confidence than that too bad. Dude, your on a steroid board... Get to training, eating and saving up money for the right time. I know its been said already, but girls under 25 are fuckn girls! they're confused and at the highest point of their insecurity. a big waste of time. put the energy into the weights

 

[Bodyfreak]

Bro,I feel what your going through...She is not worth it at all,she sounds way to sneaky to be able to ever trust her again...What you did was the right thing,and I too would of been all over that phone and i too would of been pissed off...Fuck its ignorant to do that when you come 1000miles to visit and she is all over her phone...A zebra will never change its stripes and you will be best to let her go and find a decent girl who doesnt lie...She will do it again just give it some time,she isnt worth the pain and sleepless nights,would you ever trust her to go out again alone...I wouldnt,no way...Find one that doesnt lie and you will e better off,trust me,because once a liar always a liar...