A comprenhensive tb500 frag thread

[Ateam2023]

The coffee mug thing I can relate to heh. No scan so far, but seeing my reumatlogist tommorow, so gonna ask if he can send me to someone who can check it for me. All he could see was just very inflamed elbow tendon which is why he tried cortisone injection, but as I said, it didnt help at all.

Seems like you doing the right thing, by slowly working back, but patience is a bitch.

I have som bpc/tb mix, would you suggest running these aswell, or maybe just BPC/TB frag - think I will start 5mg frag, and then up the dose after few weeks if it doesnt seem to help.

Ara I think I will do 2mg to see if that low dose has any effect.

I would recommend getting seperate vials of bpc157/tb frag, and as @dinfaralt suggested , i would get into the 5-10 mg range of each tb and Bpc , and reduce all aggravated movements (takes time off to really do it right) its hard to reduce traing weights etc , but its either deload and use women weight, or completely suffer and further the damage to your injury. And there are excercises specific for golfer/tennis elbow , Good luck on your recovery

 

[Ateam2023]

Im just going to share an request i sent to a seller to illustrate the problems when buying tb-500:

You have listed the following two different peoducts:

-TB500(Thymosin B4 Acetate)

-TB500(FRAG)

However often TB4 (Thymosin beta 4) is called TB500 (like you also did in your product list) even though they are two different peptides.

To make it worse there is also TB500(FRAG) which is a different peptide.

Then again TB500 is often falsely called TB500(FRAG) to distinguishe it from TB4.

"Before discussing the benefits of thymosin beta-4 and TB-500, it is important to talk about a derivative of TB-500 known as the TB-500 fragment.

Ac-SDKP is a naturally occurring peptide that is a fragment of thymosin beta-4. Ac-SDKP is made up of the amino acids Ser-Asp-Lys-Pro, which is a different fragment than TB-500 is
derived from.

Thus, the nomenclature is very confusing.
Both TB-500 and Ac-SDKP are derivatives of thymosin beta-4 but Ac-SDKP is not a derivative of TB-500."

So my question is:
TB500(Thymosin B4 Acetate)= TB4, correct?

But what is exactly TB500(FRAG)? Is it TB-500 or actually TB500(FRAG)/Ac-SDKP?

Tb 500 frag (889 da)

 

[dinfaralt]

References with quotes

From what i understand tbough, TB-500 isnt the only metabolite of TB4 with healing propertys but primarely the antiinlamatory one. Also, much more studys where made with TB4 than with TB-500

that may very well be true, i even recommened ac-dk metabolite aswell the 500da frag which also have some of its own healing properties.

my research led me to its the "main healing fragment" of full sequence tb4. you can look at some of the references.

without tb500 frag recovery couldnt even be detected. i stated it in my big wall of text but i will help you again no problem.

gymbros with long term injuries or acute injuries should defiently grab tb500 frag. you get 5x more bang for your buck since its a better peptide profile and its the main fragment responsible for the actin binding domain and anti inflammatory effects, angionesis and cell migration. you simply dont need the others if you're not looking for organ healing or skin healing

 

[aromatizer]

Tb 500 frag (889 da)

So is this just Tb500 frag on WWB pricelist? the only thing cavan responds to is a new order

 

[Liter O' Test]

ive been doing 4mg ara and like 1.5mg tb500 ed was at two in the beginning
i think the ARA is doing something, not sure about the frag ,
who really knows tbh
strength is going up fast and im not injured yet knock on wood, so i guess its working.

 

[zneekah]

Starting my experiment with 3mg/day of Tb500 frag to see if it's enough to power through my weak shoulder

So far this hasnt been "it" for my particular issue. But it could be too short of a time frame.

Will do a similar experiment with something like 3-4 mg BPC157 aswell later on.

 

[dinfaralt]

So far this hasnt been "it" for my particular issue. But it could be too short of a time frame.

Will do a similar experiment with something like 3-4 mg BPC157 aswell later on.

are you dealing with pain or weakness + immobility?

 

[zneekah]

are you dealing with pain or weakness + immobility?

The left shoulder goes really weak after a certain amount of pressing and yes immobility too as in I struggle with raising the arm. It kinda reaches down in my left rear delt area.

It's not really painful, more just like being handicapped.

Pec deck rear delt flyes usually acts as a decent rehab exercise for it.

 

[dinfaralt]

The left shoulder goes really weak after a certain amount of pressing and yes immobility too as in I struggle with raising the arm. It kinda reaches down in my left rear delt area.

It's not really painful, more just like being handicapped.

Pec deck rear delt flyes usually acts as a decent rehab exercise for it.

so anti inflammatory stuff in general is mainly for pain relief.

bpc is king for healing, tb500, tb500frag or other anti inflammatory stuff sucks for that aspect. if you dont have much pain no need for tb frag at all. unless you want some extra recovery from your workouts dampening the inflammatory response from it

 

[dinfaralt]

@zneekah that was just a general description, i have no idea about your injury but it sounds more like a mechanical issue than a injury. you should see a physiotherapist that can help you with specific excerises that can help you.

you can try bpc but im pretty sure you will still have trouble

 

[zneekah]

so anti inflammatory stuff in general is mainly for pain relief.

bpc is king for healing, tb500, tb500frag or other anti inflammatory stuff sucks for that aspect. if you dont have much pain no need for tb frag at all. unless you want some extra recovery from your workouts dampening the inflammatory response from it

Gotcha, thanks for clarifying. To be fair I have had a pretty good run in the gym apart from the shoulder part. Couple of PBs in other exercises. But I'm sure running Halo has done its part in that department haha.

Got some 20mg BPC kits on their way so I'll report back how that goes, may be what I need for healing my shoulder.

 

[dinfaralt]

Gotcha, thanks for clarifying. To be fair I have had a pretty good run in the gym apart from the shoulder part. Couple of PBs in other exercises. But I'm sure running Halo has done its part in that department haha.

Got some 20mg BPC kits on their way so I'll report back how that goes, may be what I need for healing my shoulder.

hope it works for you, im no where near a profesional, but do some more rear delt work to strengthen your rotators & cuffs if you're not already doing rear delt flies or some similar excerise.

like do rear delt flies eod at the start of your workout

 

[Ateam2023]

So far this hasnt been "it" for my particular issue. But it could be too short of a time frame.

Will do a similar experiment with something like 3-4 mg BPC157 aswell later on.

Well shoulders are a whole different beast in themselves especially when there's an injury there's not a lot you can do except to get the shoulder fixed or lower the weights and bear through it

 

[zneekah]

Well shoulders are a whole different beast in themselves especially when there's an injury there's not a lot you can do except to get the shoulder fixed or lower the weights and bear through it

hope it works for you, im no where near a profesional, but do some more rear delt work to strengthen your rotators & cuffs if you're not already doing rear delt flies or some similar excerise.

like do rear delt flies eod at the start of your workout

Yeah I recently realized how much they help and are definately gonna hit them harder and more frequent.

Shoulders really are a messy body part, I feel like everyone has an issue with them at one point or another. Gonna ramp up the rehab, and keep doing experiments to see what seems to help the most.

 

[thoroughlyconfused]

I have knee and wrist injury.

Would stacking TB4 with TB500 Frag amplify healing benefits with BPC-157?
For example. 2x daily BPC-157 + TB4 and EOD or E3D TB500 Frag

On the surface it looks pointless and waste of money, because both have similar functions on tissue healing. Has anyone experimented this for better results?

Wtf are U me I had basically the same idea and same injuries

 

[Ferhev]

Any of you are still dealing with elbow pain?

If so, any of you are taking high doses of Tadalafil (cialis) maybe 15-20mg a day?

I’ve been dealing with a morherfucker pain in my elbows and a little bit on my shoulders for a while.

I’ve been trying everything, stopped HGH, Anavar, increased vit c + collagen, BPC157+TB500 and nothing seemed to help.

I noticed that it got worse after my morning dose of 10mg of Tadalafil before working out and 5mg at night. Well, I stopped taladafil for a day and NO FUCKING elbow pain on both arms.

I’ll keep tadalafil out for more days to see if stays this way and then I’ll add tadalafil 5mg a day to see what happens.

 

[dinfaralt]

Any of you are still dealing with elbow pain?

i will skip tadalafil dose for a few days, this makes no sense on paper but i will trust the anecedote. or maybe you're just playing with your peepee less? hehe

 

[Ferhev]

i will skip tadalafil dose for a few days, this makes no sense on paper but i will trust the anecedote. or maybe you're just playing with your peepee less? hehe

The most reported issue with cialis is back pain, but after some research I found online that some people reported elbow/arm pain.

Man I’ve been trying everything because I was even having issues sleeping because of the elbow pain.

 

[Ferhev]

i will skip tadalafil dose for a few days, this makes no sense on paper but i will trust the anecedote. or maybe you're just playing with your peepee less? hehe

 

[Ateam2023]

I'm 15 days, postop and shoulder surgery and when I got my stitches removed today, the surgeon was amazed at how well my wounds have healed, he even commented on it twice was truly amazed at the healing 15 days postop lol I guess 6 mg of TB 500 frag and 6 mg of BPC 157 is doing the trick ,