A comprenhensive tb500 frag thread

[zneekah]

Will make an order when our China opens up again and report back on how it goes. Will start with TB frag only then and see if thats enough, would be great if a couple of mgs/day of that was all it took.

 

[deuces_00]

Will do! Out of curiousity do you mix them in the same cartridge/vial?

Would be nice to To have 30 mg TB frag / 30mg BPC in one 3ml cartridge.

EDIT: What I actually may do is buy KLOW and spike it with TB-Frag

in my next order im going to be getting my regular GLOW kits and also a kit of 10mgBPC/TB500 and doing something similar to you. Take my GLOW dose of 2.5/0.5/0.5mgs, then when needed, use an additional 2 mg each of BPC/TB500.

I have a bum knee that never healed 100% and am contemplating taking a few weeks off, 25 days, of training quads and running the above protocol to better my knee.

 

[zneekah]

in my next order im going to be getting my regular GLOW kits and also a kit of 10mgBPC/TB500 and doing something similar to you. Take my GLOW dose of 2.5/0.5/0.5mgs, then when needed, use an additional 2 mg each of BPC/TB500.

I have a bum knee that never healed 100% and am contemplating taking a few weeks off, 25 days, of training quads and running the above protocol to better my knee.

Have you found a kit with 10mg bpc / tb that has tb as tb frag?

 

[thoroughlyconfused]

those are NOT high dosages by the way, You start running 6+mg Bpc157 daily and 6+ mg tbfrag or tb4 for that matter then you are "high dosing"

What are the risks of this in your opinion? I could do this if needed and would provide more benefit. But we are getting into over 10 X the reccomended dosages? What are the possible risks in your opinion

 

[dinfar1337]

What are the risks of this in your opinion? I could do this if needed and would provide more benefit. But we are getting into over 10 X the reccomended dosages? What are the possible risks in your opinion

let me clear the side effects aswell

there is a immune risk with tb not bpc

only known is tb/bpc causing angionesis = more blood vessels created.

the only really unlikely effect could be this feeds into tumors creating blood vessels into tumors or arbnomal scar tissues. so the bad stuff gets more nutrients.

this haven't been confirmed in humans and i have never heard 1 anecedote about it.

we also dont know long term effects of bpc/tb but clearly there isnt found many with bodybuilders abusing it.

for the science we currently have go ahead and blast as much as you want until you start seeing dimishing returns just for your pockets sake.

and then you have classical peptide contaimantion risk and injection risks but i know we know those very well.

there are no official guidelines for dosing so your 10x above idk where it comes from but most people in here using higher mg dosages daily if you search up bpc or tb for people doing healing logs.

 

[Ateam2023]

What are the risks of this in your opinion? I could do this if needed and would provide more benefit. But we are getting into over 10 X the reccomended dosages? What are the possible risks in your opinion

improved healing,

 

[dinfar1337]

improved healing,

the risk is pratically nothing compared to running even trt or other peptides. even glp is a big risk compared to this one

 

[thoroughlyconfused]

let me clear the side effects aswell

only known is tb/bpc causing angionesis = more blood vessels created.

the only really unlikely effect could be this feeds into tumors creating blood vessels into tumors or arbnomal scar tissues. so the bad stuff gets more nutrients.

this haven't been confirmed in humans and i have never heard 1 anecedote about it.

we also dont know long term effects of bpc/tb but clearly there isnt found many with bodybuilders abusing it.

for the science we currently have go ahead and blast as much as you want until you start seeing dimishing returns just for your pockets sake.

and then you have classical peptide contaimantion risk and injection risks but i know we know those very well.

there are no official guidelines for dosing so your 10x above idk where it comes from but most people in here using higher mg dosages daily if you search up bpc or tb for people doing healing logs.

Makes sense I'm happy to experiment with larger doses as I did do 1 mg daily of tb4 and bpc 157 and had no noticible benefit

How long would you run these longer cycles for? And how much tb would U reccomend if I'm doing tb4 and 500?

I love how in my head I get concerned about the cancer risk then I realise my dumbass has tried cardarine and I need to shut up

 

[dinfar1337]

How long would you run these longer cycles for? And how much tb would U reccomend if I'm doing tb4 and 500?

run cycles for how long u want or even ik some bodybuilders just running bpc tb year around for better recovery.

and the multiplier for tb500 frag vs full protein tb4 was 5.2 or something.

so if u run 1 mg of tb500 frag run 5mg of tb4 or 5mg of tb500 frag run 25mg of tb4.

obviously ive made this thread to cover tb500 frag and gonna shill my findings but if you like you can ask others in here since i will be biased

 

[thoroughlyconfused]

run cycles for how long u want or even ik some bodybuilders just running bpc tb year around for better recovery.

and the multiplier for tb500 frag vs full protein tb4 was 5.2 or something.

so if u run 1 mg of tb500 frag run 5mg of tb4 or 5mg of tb500 frag run 25mg of tb4.

obviously ive made this thread to cover tb500 frag and gonna shill my findings but if you like you can ask others in here since i will be biased

The thing is I was going to do both tb4 and 500 at the same time more so as a just incase the tb4 does have any benefits the 500 doesn't have, so I wasn't sure how to dose both at the same time

 

[Ateam2023]

The thing is I was going to do both tb4 and 500 at the same time more so as a just incase the tb4 does have any benefits the 500 doesn't have, so I wasn't sure how to dose both at the same time

all things equal why not, easier to measure your doses, Case closed.

 

[Ateam2023]

Tb frag for the WIN!! Tb4 just use it because you have it, check and noted

 

[deuces_00]

Have you found a kit with 10mg bpc / tb that has tb as tb frag?

this blend kit is actually not specified, just had to go check.

they've got individual kits of tb4 listed as 'TB-500 (TB4)', then TB-500 listed as 'TB-500 (frag)', but in the column for the BPC/TB500 kit it isnt specified whether the tb included is either tb500 or tb4, it's simply listed as 'BPC157 10mg+TB500 10mg Blend'.

since they referred to both tb4 and tb500 frag as tb500 before im not sure which is which. im guessing its whatever is cheaper, which is tb500 frag

 

[thoroughlyconfused]

all things equal why not, easier to measure your doses, Case closed.

Sorry I'm dumb I don't understand I was trying to ask what dose of each you reccomend if doing both at the same time

 

[Ateam2023]

Sorry I'm dumb I don't understand I was trying to ask what dose of each you reccomend if doing both at the same time

and i said "all things equal" for instance 3 mg tb4 and 3 mg tbfrag and 3 mg Bpc157 or whatever mg your gonna run, No more questions, if you can't figure it out by now , idk ,

 

[thoroughlyconfused]

and i said "all things equal" for instance 3 mg tb4 and 3 mg tbfrag and 3 mg Bpc157 or whatever mg your gonna run, No more questions, if you can't figure it out by now , idk ,

Ok sorry I understand now. And you reckon do both tb4 and 500 daily even if I'm taken both?

I know it was said for me to put off taking gh, but I'm not sure if it's the tb or the bpc but I have sleep issues as is and they seem to make it much worse. Obviously sleep is important for recovery. Wondering if it'd be worth taking just to help my sleep that's likely going to get worse again taking it

 

[Wizbang]

Now i just need to decipher who carries frag and who doesn't haha

 

[Banana Joe]

Thanks for the thread @dinfar1337! Will need some time to read through everything.

Now i just need to decipher who carries frag and who doesn't haha

Now I am confused, if I order TB500 from a vendor's list, will I not surely get TB500 (frag)?

 

[zneekah]

Thanks for the thread @dinfar1337! Will need some time to read through everything.


Now I am confused, if I order TB500 from a vendor's list, will I not surely get TB500 (frag)?

No you have to look for it specifically, see the examples from dinfar and Photon on the first page. In the Janoshik we dont want the one that says TB-500(TB4) but rather the one that says TB-500(889da) or maybe it says TB-500 Frag in the price list.

 

[dinfar1337]

TB-500 Frag in the price list.

cas 885340-08-9 is tb500 frag, the one we want from vendors with the AC.

ask them for cas number