A comprenhensive tb500 frag thread

[Infernalmango]

yes, just from the literaturre its way better to inject tb500 frag, less immunigicenty risk, less dosages needed. and way less money spend 1mg tb500 frag = 5.2mg of tb500 healing effects.

just from a standpoint you would need 15mg to achieve less than 3mg dosing of tb500 frag. no wonder people say the pure protein is shit compared to bpc in my own opinion(it is please save your money and buy the tb500 frag).

this was more a scientific thread and im trying my best(failiing) to not be biased and look at what advatanges we can get with tb500 frag with the limited literaturre.

Not failing. Great thread, appreciate the leg work you’ve put in

 

[Ateam2023]

this is a great thread @dinfar1337 , alot of people didn't know the difference, and it has shined some light on the frag that i now know, I still want tb4 to be effective, (just because i have some left) and dont want it to be a waste, lol ease my mind will ya?

 

[Infernalmango]

this is a great thread @dinfar1337 , alot of people didn't know the difference, and it has shined some light on the frag that i now know, I still want tb4 to be effective, (just because i have some left) and dont want it to be a waste, lol ease my mind will ya?

Yeah still gunna use it all, but a little salty I got some ssa 10/10 bpc tb4 instead of the 5/5 of the good stuff.
Also an entire kit of glow with tb4 as well…

 

[Liter O' Test]

yes, just from the literaturre its way better to inject tb500 frag, less immunigicenty risk, less dosages needed. and way less money spend 1mg tb500 frag = 5.2mg of tb500 healing effects.

just from a standpoint you would need 15mg to achieve less than 3mg dosing of tb500 frag. no wonder people say the pure protein is shit compared to bpc in my own opinion(it is please save your money and buy the tb500 frag).

this was more a scientific thread and im trying my best(failiing) to not be biased and look at what advatanges we can get with tb500 frag with the limited literaturre.

so what would you guess is a injury healing dose and frequency and what is a "little boost cause im achy longer term dose"

 

[dinfar1337]

so what would you guess is a injury healing dose and frequency and what is a "little boost cause im achy longer term dose"

sweet spot for me is around 2mg, joints dont hurt at all, going lower they hurt. 3mg is best but atleast 2mg.

this is just from my own experience with a bad elbow injury, you could probably try to long term dose it starting as low as 1mg and see if it helps.

i also had some annoying hamstring joint pain(which caused me not to be able to go full rom on squats, etc because i overstretched on some hamstring excerise) which has been there forever but first week of doing higher bpc + tb frag its completely gone, like i've even forgotten about it.

just to help you understand above *^ bpc goes local and tb500 frag can go systemic and clearly does with injecting my arm and my knee gets better.

and i believe the half life is way less than whats been sold, everyone recommends because its been "detected in plasma/urine up to 72 hours later".

atleast ed injections. if you're lazy e2d and double the dosage

 

[thoroughlyconfused]

I heard part 1-4 of the amino acid also has benefits for healing and recovery, any truth to this?

Also I was considering doing

3 mg bpc daily

Monday Wednesday Friday 3 mg tb500 and 500 MCG tb4

Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday, Sunday 2 mg tb4

And maybe 3 iu hgh eventually.

Thoughts on this as a more aggressive higher dosage?

 

[dinfar1337]

I heard part 1-4 of the amino acid also has benefits for healing and recovery

i haven't seen anyone carry it so i haven't spoken about it.

if you find a vendor with it should come back as 500 da on jano test.

the ac-sdkp (1-4) frag have completely different mechanicms than the tb frag im talking about in this post.

its main role and why people use it is for scarring and fibrosis/organ healing and not injury healing in a bodybuilding context.

it dosent have as much interesting studies as we do on tb500 frag or tb4 for that matter so i wont comment on it.

and i neither believe you're doing high dosages of bpc/tb and think you should up your dosing schedule of tb to ed atleast eod frequency if you want my opinion.

if you're deciding for tb4 you need to run it way higher than tb frag to get the effect so i would imagine if someone want to be expensive they can pair like 3mg tb frag and 15mg tb4 next day

 

[thoroughlyconfused]

i haven't seen anyone carry it so i haven't spoken about it.

if you find a vendor with it should come back as 500 da on jano test.

the ac-sdkp (1-4) frag have completely different mechanicms than the tb frag im talking about in this post.

its main role and why people use it is for scarring and fibrosis/organ healing and not injury healing in a bodybuilding context.

it dosent have as much interesting studies as we do on tb500 frag or tb4 for that matter so i wont comment on it.

and i neither believe you're doing high dosages of bpc/tb and think you should up your dosing schedule of tb to ed atleast eod frequency if you want my opinion.

Oh yes I've never seen anyone carry it either I was just wondering if that would make it worth doing tb4 aswell

Also I don't get the niether believe part?

And in this protocol is be doing tb4 daily and tb500 3 times a week. Or do you mean to do tb500 daily?

 

[dinfar1337]

And in this protocol is be doing tb4 daily and tb500 3 times a week. Or do you mean to do tb500 daily?

both should be dosed daily

 

[thoroughlyconfused]

both should be dosed daily

How much in your opinion? I'm going to get two kits of each with tb4 and tb500 10 mg each

And a kit of 40 mg bpc. Ideally I'd like to not spend anymore then that and be able to use all that over the healing and if I end up spending more would prefer on hgh

 

[Ateam2023]

I heard part 1-4 of the amino acid also has benefits for healing and recovery, any truth to this?

Also I was considering doing

3 mg bpc daily

Monday Wednesday Friday 3 mg tb500 and 500 MCG tb4

Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday, Sunday 2 mg tb4

And maybe 3 iu hgh eventually.

Thoughts on this as a more aggressive higher dosage?

those are NOT high dosages by the way, You start running 6+mg Bpc157 daily and 6+ mg tbfrag or tb4 for that matter then you are "high dosing"

 

[dinfar1337]

those are NOT high dosages by the way, You start running 6+mg Bpc157 daily and 6+ mg tbfrag or tb4 for that matter then you are "high dosing"

ive found no diminishing returns from 1-5mg.

im probably stash some raws as soon as i can find them and start like 10mg of each next time. just get it over with.

no need to do any of this maintenance phase bullshit, just get it in the system and heal.

you can tiltrate down slowly to make sure you've healed, like 500mcg 1mg eod.

there is no limiting factor at our dosages on the tissue receptor site. the only thing limiting us is how much tissue remodeling our body can do, and running multiple mgs have almost no toxicity at all.

-> the drug is basically asking to be overloaded

 

[Ateam2023]

ive found no diminishing returns from 1-5mg.

im probably stash some raws as soon as i can find them and start like 10mg of each next time. just get it over with.

no need to do any of this maintenance phase bullshit, just get it in the system and heal.

you can tiltrate down slowly to make sure you've healed, like 500mcg 1mg eod.

there is no limiting factor at our dosages on the tissue receptor site. the only thing limiting us is how much tissue remodeling our body can do, and running multiple mgs have almost no toxicity at all.

-> the drug is basically asking to be overloaded

Ime, i found that the higher the mg per day the "better" the relief,

 

[zneekah]

Great thread, really interesting and appreciated. Gonna order some TB-500 frag and do a 3mg a day routine and see if it can do some magic for my shoulder that tends to "lose power" very easily, not exactly turn painful but just kind of become weak and halt my progress for developing delts and upper chest (lagging body parts).

 

[Ateam2023]

Great thread, really interesting and appreciated. Gonna order some TB-500 frag and do a 3mg a day routine and see if it can do some magic for my shoulder that tends to "lose power" very easily, not exactly turn painful but just kind of become weak and halt my progress for developing delts and upper chest (lagging body parts).

try to run Bpc157 with it at same mg per day and really reap the benefits

 

[zneekah]

try to run Bpc157 with it at same mg per day and really reap the benefits

Will do! Out of curiousity do you mix them in the same cartridge/vial?

Would be nice to To have 30 mg TB frag / 30mg BPC in one 3ml cartridge.

EDIT: What I actually may do is buy KLOW and spike it with TB-Frag

 

[Ateam2023]

Will do! Out of curiousity do you mix them in the same cartridge/vial?

Would be nice to To have 30 mg TB frag / 30mg BPC in one 3ml cartridge.

EDIT: What I actually may do is buy KLOW and spike it with TB-Frag

i still use syringe and draw one at a time , but use the same syringe for both peptides.

 

[zneekah]

i still use syringe and draw one at a time , but use the same syringe for both peptides.

Thanks. I'll try a separate pen for TB frag first, then I'll try mixing them and see if I notice a difference. I would love to have a KLOW with TB-frag if they dont degrade eachother.

 

[Ateam2023]

Thanks. I'll try a separate pen for TB frag first, then I'll try mixing them and see if I notice a difference. I would love to have a KLOW with TB-frag if they dont degrade eachother.

I think its ok with mixing the peptides but if you look theres a Peptides "compatibility chart" somewhere around here

 

[dinfar1337]

Thanks. I'll try a separate pen for TB frag first, then I'll try mixing them and see if I notice a difference. I would love to have a KLOW with TB-frag if they dont degrade eachother.

im all in for little user side experiment with tb frag. if you run it without bpc do include that in the details

if you do it please update us.