I just ordered some melanotan II...

[herc11]

Oh and in reference to the post asking if MII will prevent you from getting burned. The answer is NO! If you have not tanned at all and you are going out into the sun your skin has NO UV protection. Do NOT overdue it, make sure you use some sort of good tanning lotion with some SPF in it. I use 8.

Once you have tanned, THEN your skin will be less susceptible to being burned. I did burn a bit my first time out this year, but I do say that the burn did not last as long. It turned into a tan by the second day afterwards. It's all in that write-up from the link provided earlier.

 

[BBC3]

Thats kinda what I was after. Sun tanning is a tricky business. The darker you get, THE FASTER YOU ABSORB RAYS.... There always seems to be a point when you are tanning for the first time in a while, and WHAM!!! First you were white and reflecting rays, then the slightest turn pink or darker, and in thirty minutes flat, you will catch more than you caught the whole day before..... So it would seem that for someone that has not been out in the sun for years, it could really magnify this potential. While the skin darkens with sun exposure, this is clearly not the protective factor, and it is simply the dead skin that accumulates on the top layer that protects from the UV burn factor.

Oh and in reference to the post asking if MII will prevent you from getting burned. The answer is NO! If you have not tanned at all and you are going out into the sun your skin has NO UV protection. Do NOT overdue it, make sure you use some sort of good tanning lotion with some SPF in it. I use 8.

Once you have tanned, THEN your skin will be less susceptible to being burned. I did burn a bit my first time out this year, but I do say that the burn did not last as long. It turned into a tan by the second day afterwards. It's all in that write-up from the link provided earlier.

 

[Bill Roberts]

Um, no, it is the melanin the provides the protective factor. The brownness per se does not, but the melanin also reduces the amount of UV reaching the viable epidermis, which is what must be protected from UV.

 

[BBC3]

Keep in mind I am referencing the "white to pink" stages. Pehaps the browning is always just associated with "post burn" for me as I am always overzealous.....

I can see the point as darker skinned people tend not to burn..... And they are obviously not walking around with a layer of excessive dead sking....... I do understand they get melanomas and stuff like that too regardless. JUst not QUITE as often.

That is kinda interesting however, as it brings up a potential point. The dark skin CLEARLY invites higher UV absorption. So the million dollar question is, Is one begging skin cancer at an accellerated rate since they are naturally no inclined to carry those pigment levels? Which is generally associated with less UV handling capability prior to cancer. OR is it acutally providing protection for those not genetically gifted?

Regardless, I will report back either way. Sounds like I should be able to do a "controlled" slow exposure (of a week or two), and then be qualified for full throttle all day Mexican Sun session....[)]

Um, no, it is the melanin the provides the protective factor. The brownness per se does not, but the melanin also reduces the amount of UV reaching the viable epidermis, which is what must be protected from UV.

 

[IronCore]

Thats kinda what I was after. Sun tanning is a tricky business. The darker you get, THE FASTER YOU ABSORB RAYS.... There always seems to be a point when you are tanning for the first time in a while, and WHAM!!! First you were white and reflecting rays, then the slightest turn pink or darker, and in thirty minutes flat, you will catch more than you caught the whole day before..... So it would seem that for someone that has not been out in the sun for years, it could really magnify this potential. While the skin darkens with sun exposure, this is clearly not the protective factor, and it is simply the dead skin that accumulates on the top layer that protects from the UV burn factor.

I really do appreciate the knowledge I have gained on melanotan and may use it in the future...
HOWEVER...Does it really matter for you though BBC? I mean you have occupied this thread with your half assed theories for days... and at the end of the day it doesn't amount to a hill of shit in your case because you DON'T GET SUN AT DOUGHNUT SHOPS OR RIDING AROUND IN YOUR PATROL CAR!!!!

( or maybe thats why you need it... Hmmmm...)
opcorn:

 

[Jeton]

don't come to Arizona, you will be stopped and asked to show papers!!!!!

good point.

BBC, for the first week just go easy on sun exposure during the 11-1 or 12-2pm time frame (depending on whether u have daylight savings time in effect where u r...)

30 minutes of peak-time Sun is worth 3 hours of late afternoon Sun...

 

[Renegade69]

Yea, good idea. I'll document SOMETHING for sure for you guys to see....[)]

Thanks bro that would be awesome! Im toying with the idea of giving it a shot while I run my next cycle soon.

 

[Bill Roberts]

UV absorption by melanin is harmless in all regards.

UV absorption by the DNA of the dermis and viable epidermis is not good.

Most certainly having more melanin does not result in more of the latter, but rather less.

The issue shouldn't be looked at in terms of "total absorption."

 

[BBC3]

Whats that IRON?? DId BR not state that I was the cop that pulled him over???[)] Sorry, nice try, but no LE here. I am nothing more than an upstanding law abiding citizen with good will to man in my heart....opcorn: Now YOU on the other hand should be ashamed. Just come out and give us your badge number. Oh i forgot, juice is not legal for you guys either. Dont worry, your secret is safe with us, BRotha....

TO THE POINT/ "HELP, I've fallen and I cant get up!!!>!>!>!>>!!!!" NASTY NASTY NASTY NASTY NASTY...... Did I say I feel nasty.......

So I ballZd'UP and pinned 333mcgs this morn. I think that is a thrid of a MG?? OR what you would get if you mixed 10mgs total MII with 30ml BAC and shot a cc........ INSTANT TURD FEELING. They should just call it "Feeling Crappy" in a bottle..... Felt some hints of fascial flushing, elevated BP, a hint of nausia, but more of just a general feeling of down right shittyness..... Seems like lethargy, but who knows... I do think I actually appeared to get that deep blue pink efflorescence and no sun yet. ALmost like skin loading up.

Im gonna throw in some tanning this week cash in the 4 trip coupon to the mega bed.[)] I will give it 2 weeks and then better be chocholate, or I'm out.....

It could be all me or in my head, but I have a feeling it will get worse at the same dose before better. We will see.

Final thoughts. Found a couple of websites out there divoted to assholes that just like to tan. I get the feeling they are on some kind of unusual gay crusade, and probably have light skin issues accross the board and as a majority. Some of them may even be using the stuff to try to achieve a totally sun free tan. Some can not even do the math and appear to be good overdose candidates. I dont know, but there were some shitty thoughts at those places that kinda messed with my head, about "white spots", etc... Had to get the hell outta there....

 

[Bill Roberts]

Yes, you figured correctly, that's 1/3 mg.

It's unfortunate that you didn't react well to that. It's a conservative dose.

At that pace, if (if) you are one of the ones that requires 30 mg for a good loading, that would be a 90 day process at that dosage. If injecting once per day.

Of course, those 90 days are going to pass by no matter what anyhow.

 

[BBC3]

Well I kinda fiqure its a moderate reaction at best. Further I am pretty sensitive and note EVERY reaction. Really if it were me with a different head on my shoulders, who it so say I would have cried all that much..... And probably that dose is as good as any to prompt it. So one day at a time. I was really tired this morn and pinned it when my adderall dose was comming on. So perhaps compounded. But I am not so sure the amphetamines should not have offered some relief to the nausia and lethargy. I also have a feeling CEM has it dosed pretty solid.

Whats to loose. I can already get pretty dark in two weeks. I am just hoping this will take it to another level, and without all the skin aggrivation from the currently required HEAVY UV dosing (in past). Just looking for some good color without having to bake my ass senseless.

Hopefully the sides will go away. But again, i fear it may be the opposite.

Yes, you figured correctly, that's 1/3 mg.

It's unfortunate that you didn't react well to that. It's a conservative dose.

At that pace, if (if) you are one of the ones that requires 30 mg for a good loading, that would be a 90 day process at that dosage. If injecting once per day.

Of course, those 90 days are going to pass by no matter what anyhow.

 

[BBC3]

Issues seem gone. I just pin the stuff late at night when tired. Seems not to affect falling asleep, nor do I feel any of the BP issues. FYI. Looking back my first dose that gave me all that trouble was only actually 156MCGS.... The full 333 is no prob. Going to catch some rays this week comming up and see what happens.. I did experience a DDC (Double Diamond CUtter) the other night after pin and in bed. I think I am going to SUFFER sexual sides....

 

[Renegade69]

So what kind of course do you think you have ahead of you until the protocol is over?

 

[BBC3]

I dont know. I was just thinking 1/3rd of a MG a day till gone. Kick in the tanning next week. HOPEFULLY see the crazy results I have heard about by the end of week three. I am not planning to rev down to "maintenance" schedule ( which I think is 2wice a week) till I see results. SO if I go throught the whole 10mgs, and I could, so be it. I consider myself a type II to III tanning pretty good once going. So my guess would be that I should go off the charts crazy dark soon. Then I get a couple pics uploaded.

Ive got some cialis poppin now for weekend wifey. I am hoping the MII doesn't take me off the carts in the priapism land....

So what kind of course do you think you have ahead of you until the protocol is over?

 

[Renegade69]

oh my god, priapism land

that is one place you DEF. dont want to vist!

[)]

 

[Renegade69]

Also,

What do you mean by type II or type III tanning....is there some sort of official scale to gauge that by?

 

[buddy1]

I have a question about the moles / freckles that show up while using this stuff. Do they fade when the tan fades? Or, are you left with significantly more than what you had to begin with?

 

[Bill Roberts]

Also,

What do you mean by type II or type III tanning....is there some sort of official scale to gauge that by?

There is a standard scale.

Type 1 is described as: burns easily and never tans

Type 2: burns easily and tans minimally

Type 3: burns moderately, tans gradually

The above three skin types are all white when there is no sun exposure.

Type 4: burns minimally and tans well.

This skin type may be light brown when there is no sun exposure.

 

[Renegade69]

Nice reply Mr. Roberts, thanks alot!

WIth that being said I would see myself as a 3.5 if thats possible haha [)]

 

[herc11]

Wow, why did you use sooo much Bac water? I know it's cheap but for a Sub Q shot, 1cc is a lot!

Buddy, they will fade back to normal once you stop the MII and the effects have worn off.