PRIMAL PHARMA - BEWARE - Underdosed, lies, contamination, resells china gear

[Photon]

Posting for TRANSPARENCY.

Vendor (1) constantly lies, (2) sells contaminated, (3) under-dosed products, (4) ships different vials from Jano testing, and (5) resells Chinese gear as USdom.

If purchasing, please do BOTH HPLC and GCMS on every vial before usage.

(1) Test U250 - > 3rd party tested as contaminated 200mg/ml. Used same batch numbers, for multiple brews with different mg/ml (id'd by different oil colors).

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Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - Lab Testing Results'

Jan 10, 2026

primals test undecanoate, pretty consistent....

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MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - US Domestic'

Feb 4, 2026

Finally got the other test back from the TU. I sent the 2 vials same batch. One darker than the other. My mistake was not physically noting on the vial so we could tell like maybe just "A and B" so all we have are the Jano pics. I am going to repost the tests but this first link is the newest we haven't seen.

When I selected the vials I could see a difference in the oil as far as one being slightly darker. Now on the Jano pics I cannot tell. This is frustrating because I think we already knew this info we were just trying to nail down the dark vs light which one was properly dosed...

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(2) Primo200 - Claimed to brew using raws, multiple times, only to be caught reselling China gear for US Dom prices. Had weeks to come clean, only admitted when results posted.

MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - US Domestic'

Dec 14, 2025

Was the recent primo underdosed?

There seem to be a great number of people commenting here lately that haven't bothered to get caught up on the series of events that lead to the mistrust many have right now with Primal. Here's a brief breakdown of the events

Primal lied about this Primo's origins not once, but twice. First, it was made from raws they got in that they paid a lot for, and they were "too excited to get it (the raws) tested" and brewed it immediately. Then, days later, they "came clean" and said it was left over primo raws they found while looking through their...

• AllGoodThings

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(3) TestC250 -> 3rd party tested, multiple vials under-dosed as 220mg/ml to 230mg/ml. Different brews, different mg/ml, same batch number.

Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - Lab Testing Results'

Dec 11, 2025

FYI - I’ve sent in samples from 3 different vials of TC250 P10 (early-September), to put to rest any doubts that my initial test that came in at 220mg was not a one-off, as originally suggested by Primal. Jano has them and I suspect I will have results in a day or two. I am also guessing they’ll all come in around 220.

Here are the combined results for the 4 different TC250 P10 (early-September) samples:

Full 10ml vial: 220.93 mg/ml
Sample A: 231.73 mg/ml
Sample B: 224.32 mg/ml
Sample C: 220.62 mg/ml

Average: 224.4 mg/ml

Janoshik Analytical
Janoshik Analytical...

• crispybacon!

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Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - Lab Testing Results'

Nov 28, 2025

TC250 -> 220mg/ml
P10

Janoshik Analytical

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(4) MastP200 -> 3rd party tested under-dosed as 153mg/ml.

Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - Lab Testing Results'

Nov 28, 2025

Mast P200 -> 153mg/ml
P11

Janoshik Analytical

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(5) TRE400 -> 2 different batches, both 3rd party tested to both be contaminated with dissolved brewing equipment. Different mg/ml from vendor's test, different brews, same batch number.

Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - Lab Testing Results'

Nov 28, 2025

TRE400
Batch 001

Janoshik Analytical

TRE400
Batch P11

Janoshik Analytical

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(6) TC50 -> Female Test Cyp 50, multiple 3rd party testing as 62mg/ml.

Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - Lab Testing Results'

Nov 28, 2025

TC50
62mg/ml
Sep -> Janoshik Analytical
Nov -> Janoshik Analytical

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(7) Adrol50 -> 3rd party tested as 30mg/ml.

Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - Lab Testing Results'

Dec 1, 2025

Adrol50-> ~30mg/ml
First batch

Janoshik Analytical

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(8) EQ300/EQ500 -> Multiple vials of EQ brewed using different set of raws of different colors using same batch number with only 1 test. Claims to send raws for testing, waited for results, only to admit nothing was sent and that a new batch was coming. (What was actually sold?)

MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - US Domestic'

Jan 7, 2026

Never sent it. Will send it once I am back from travels

So you sent it..waited for results..then apparently did not send it and now have a new batch you are sending out?

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(9) EQ500 -> Latest batch (P12-Jan25), customer sent different brews from Jano testing. (oil color isn't the same).

MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - US Domestic'

Feb 12, 2026

No, these were pulled off the shelf to show that we’ve never sold CN oils aside from Primo Gate.

Cyp (P14-A), Test E (P13) and Mast P (P12) will all be made with the new equipment. Everything else will be made once inventory turns. I will make sure those batches are announced so people know.

Current products available made with the new equipment = Cyp 250 (P14)

So these test results are for existing products being sold?
We know that the current system is problematic, every vial you sell has a different mg/ml that doesn't match your testing. Ive asked multiple times when is...

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(10) TE250, Primo100 -> Testing shows reselling of china gear on top of the Primo200 posted above in (2).

MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - US Domestic'

Feb 1, 2026

Nothing ever gets addressed in this thread.
Each time bad results are posted, another unrelated argument magically unfolds itself and everything gets buried.

The more 3rd party results are done, the worse it gets.

Test E - China oil.

Primo 200 - P11 - China oil.

Primo 100 - P12 - China oil.

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(11) Old stoppers failing, rubber pieces in vials, moisture in capsules, oils changing color (oxidizing?). If you have the non-black vials, I'd pay close attention to them and consider re-filtering into new sterile vials.

MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - US Domestic'

Jan 31, 2026

So I haven't been on here in awhile but wanted to share my recent experiences with Primal. For starters, I was a big fan of his oils and caps. I've probably done about 5 orders with him going back to his first few weeks on here. I've run his EQ, Test Cyp, Enan. Prop. Und. I've also run his MENT, Tren E and A, NPP and still have a couple bottles of his Deca for a rainy day. As for his caps I've used 3 bottles of his Anadrol 25, Sdrol, Dbol, Adex and Nolva. Prior to my most recent order the only issue I had was his green caps smudging when alcohol swab hit it. No big deal. I was happy and...

• CraneKraken

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MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - US Domestic'

Feb 2, 2026

Never seen such stuff before..you got pics?
I mean even china oils aren't that bad..

Here's the Nolva. The weird thing is the bottle was in the same spot as the Superdrol, Anadrol and Adex I bought off him. All work great and don't show any signs of degradation. I got no answers. I can only assume it was a freak thing. Shit happens. It's no sweat off my balls, I just figured it's worth pointing out on Meso. I've been in this game for 20yrs and never seen anything like that happen before.

As for the rubber in the oils, when I get home from work I'll send some pics. I thought I...

• CraneKraken

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MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - US Domestic'

Oct 30, 2025

Any reason not to disclose the details? Sounds like information the community would benefit from.

ordered some TC250 a few weeks back . vials arrived with particles floating in them. primal resent and those vials too had fibers floating in them.

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MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - US Domestic'

Oct 30, 2025

Do you have pictures?

it’s hard to capture in pictures this is all I have currently

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All this, in just 7 Months on Meso.

 

[BP_6]

Posting for TRANSPARENCY.

Vendor (1) constantly lies, (2) sells contaminated, (3) under-dosed products, (4) ships different vials from Jano testing, and (5) resells Chinese gear as USdom.

If purchasing, please do BOTH HPLC and GCMS on every vial before usage.
























All this, in just 7 Months on Meso.

Normally, I would look with a lot of sceptiscim if it was some new account posting this. However, since this is not the case, I am paying attention. The shortage seems to be making sources more desperate.

 

[Lilpiggy]

Most people are happy with quick shipping, cheap prices, and ease of purchase.

Unfortunately quality and consistency is an afterthought.

After the inconsistencies in vial to vial mg’s. China resale gear that was lied about and lack of batch testing to what’s being labeled correlation — I’ve lost trust in this source.

I was sold on primal at first but the continued discrepancies has led me to source elsewhere.

Rather than be vocal on here about it I just took my money elsewhere.

At the end of the day this is a business and I want to take my business to suppliers who are transparent and I can trust and who can adhere to the standard they’ve set and not move the goal post “cause of demand”.

 

[Nick925]

Posting for TRANSPARENCY.

Vendor (1) constantly lies, (2) sells contaminated, (3) under-dosed products, (4) ships different vials from Jano testing, and (5) resells Chinese gear as USdom.

If purchasing, please do BOTH HPLC and GCMS on every vial before usage.


@Photon Can you DM please





















All this, in just 7 Months on Meso.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Posting for TRANSPARENCY.

Vendor (1) constantly lies, (2) sells contaminated, (3) under-dosed products, (4) ships different vials from Jano testing, and (5) resells Chinese gear as USdom.

If purchasing, please do BOTH HPLC and GCMS on every vial before usage.
























All this, in just 7 Months on Meso.

thanks for putting all this together in one post w/ links

 

[Photon]

Female Var10 -> 15.67mg
Purchased Dec
50% o.d

For females, might want to get it tested..
There's also oil found via testing, in the capsules..so not sure whats going on..

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MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - US Domestic'

Wednesday at 5:03 PM

Anavar 10mg shipped out Monday for testing
Primal covered the cost plus shipping

• Nick925

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MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'Primal Pharma - US Domestic'

Thursday at 12:38 AM

@Nick925

When did you purchase the var10?

December 23

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[GDJ]

I built a stockpile of his gear that I’ll eventually bring myself to throw out. Expensive lesson, but learned.

 

[AIRBORNE DADDY]

God im wondering what i injected in 2015 when i bought 2, 30mg vials of test off a 6'5" bouncer i knew in the bathroom of a titty bar... paid 550 for test prop that crippled me and made my face beet red after the 1st week.

 

[Veinyone]

This is my reminder to trash the stuff I have from them lol. Thanks

 

[crispybacon!]

Thanks for starting this thread @Photon . Should help prevent issues from getting buried.

Another issue was with swollen stoppers. This was eventually resolved with stopper upgrades, but worth noting for posterity.

Alright I'm back!

After further review it's significant stopper degregation. As seen below.

No pressure in the vial.

Stopper was wiped with 91% isopropyl alcohol (typically use 70% but this is what I got)

I noticed before using the Test that I was getting color when cleaning them.

I remember the bad batch of stoppers being brought up and I believe it's been addressed.

All my stuff is from when Primal first opened so I'm sure everything is good to go now just wanted to update my other post.

I live in Ms these vials have been climate controlled at 70 F since they showed up here.

Sorry @Photon I messed up some of the pictures no other vials exhibit this kind of distention.

All pictured have been pierced except for the Primal Primo it was a little crooked so I pulled the top.

This topic is right on time. I've noticed my stoppers starting to bulge and tonight I'm swapping with some pfizer / hospria vials.

I bought these when I was only using HGH and didn't have any oils yet. Wish I had ptfe's. I'll order those next.

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[Deadpool99]

Posting for TRANSPARENCY.

Vendor (1) constantly lies, (2) sells contaminated, (3) under-dosed products, (4) ships different vials from Jano testing, and (5) resells Chinese gear as USdom.

If purchasing, please do BOTH HPLC and GCMS on every vial before usage.
























All this, in just 7 Months on Meso.

Appreciate it man.
Chasing it till the end until you get the answers you need.

Need more people like you, some of us are less knowledgeable and try our best even tho I send all my products to janoshik, sometimes interpreting the HLPC and other stuff isn’t as easy for me.

 

[hcgfiend123456]

God im wondering what i injected in 2015 when i bought 2, 30mg vials of test off a 6'5" bouncer i knew in the bathroom of a titty bar... paid 550 for test prop that crippled me and made my face beet red after the 1st week.

Good god I am glad I didn't get into this until later in life. Stories like this are nutty.

 

[BigDadd7]

God im wondering what i injected in 2015 when i bought 2, 30mg vials of test off a 6'5" bouncer i knew in the bathroom of a titty bar... paid 550 for test prop that crippled me and made my face beet red after the 1st week.

I remember ordering my first stuff and sending western union. There was no testing then. I don't know if it was legit or not, but I sure was motivated. I ate, trained with Arnold Schwarzeneggers bible, and got swoll. Then I drove over the border and bought deca at a pharmacy. That ballooned me up quick. I didnt know anything about blood tests. I just ate, trained, and got swollen again. The good old days.