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All Primo test. I shot of test cyp 250 a week. Been on for about 2 months now. Batch P12

Going to dial it back some, trying to maintain TRT levels at the moment.
 

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come on man, don't need to go there

there are some fairly well-respected members contributing in this thread and I don't think this behavior persuades them one iota
He doesn’t respect the members or this forum. He only respects the money. He constantly disrespects members with his little snarky comments. Anyone thinks this guy respects the members they are a fool. His methods of brewing, testing and lying tell you he has zero respect. If he had respect he would fix it instead of constantly saying “we are getting better everyday” for the last 6 months. Our stuff works and bloods tell the story isn’t a marker of what the forum is supposed to be about and that is another piece he doesn't understand. The thread about Meso and what happened to it is all obvious in this thread how this source has been allowed to operate by many (not all) members. People have accepted a standard and apparently it includes disrespect.
 
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Me and test prop " the devils juice" do not get along, i will never shoot tp again, that shit messed me up. It was not the gear, it is my body, bought different mg and different oils from now 3 different vendors with the same result, knots the size of golf balls and red and hot!
 
The disrespect from vendors did not start here. Ever had Tracy tell you to go fuck your uncle?
Yeah and Tracy exit scammed and is still allowed to operate on this forum.

Another testament to this.
The thread about Meso and what happened to it is all obvious in this thread how this source has been allowed to operate by many (not all) members. People have accepted a standard and apparently it includes disrespect.
 
He doesn’t respect the members or this forum. He only respects the money. He constantly disrespects members with his little snarky comments. Anyone thinks this guy respects the members they are a fool. His methods of brewing, testing and lying tell you he has zero respect. If he had respect he would fix it instead of constantly saying “we are getting better everyday” for the last 6 months. Our stuff works and bloods tell the story isn’t a marker of what the forum is supposed to be about and that is another piece he doesn't understand. The thread about Meso and what happened to it is all obvious in this thread how this source has been allowed to operate by many (not all) members. People have accepted a standard and apparently it includes disrespect.

His customers are no longer Meso based.

I mean, it’s probably petty money to him to keep advertising on this board on the side, but when you see the website URL in literal TikTok comment sections, you know he’s busy.

Glad I had to step away from oils, at-least with peptides / HGH / GLPs there are way less variables. Inflammation from Chinese oils being the biggest one. (Let alone Chinese oils disguised as American oils… At that point you might as well go to the new Chinese vendor on the block who seems hungrier than Primal)
 
Yeah and Tracy exit scammed and is still allowed to operate on this forum.

Another testament to this.

Even outside of the PED market, doing business with the Chinese usually doesn’t involve much respect, at best you’ll get mutual cooperation. It will be interesting to see how US & China business relations play out.
 
He doesn’t respect the members or this forum. He only respects the money. He constantly disrespects members with his little snarky comments. Anyone thinks this guy respects the members they are a fool. His methods of brewing, testing and lying tell you he has zero respect. If he had respect he would fix it instead of constantly saying “we are getting better everyday” for the last 6 months. Our stuff works and bloods tell the story isn’t a marker of what the forum is supposed to be about and that is another piece he doesn't understand. The thread about Meso and what happened to it is all obvious in this thread how this source has been allowed to operate by many (not all) members. People have accepted a standard and apparently it includes disrespect.
You’re entitled to your opinion, but let’s not confuse the frustration with facts. If we didn’t respect the community, we wouldn’t be investing time and money into improving processes, tightening QC, and continuing to submit products for independent testing (which we’ve done repeatedly and transparently).

The truth is that results, repeat testing, and real-world outcomes are what separate all this noise from the substance. Bloodwork, testing, and thousands of satisfied users carry more weight than these recycled forum narratives.

If someone prefers to ignore updated data and focus on four month old talking points, that’s their choice! But pretending nothing has changed is just ridiculous.

You also think we have ‘alt accounts’ lol that should discredit you all together. You definitely bring up valid points sometimes but then you say some stupid stuff like that and it’s honestly pathetic. You lose all credibility! That’s why I get countless emails a day making fun of you guys. But I continue to stay here, take the criticism, have fun with it but still improve. And with our latest adjustments, expectation is that we will be clean as a whistle. But God damn brother some of you just need someone to talk to. I genuinely mean that.
 
You’re entitled to your opinion, but let’s not confuse the frustration with facts. If we didn’t respect the community, we wouldn’t be investing time and money into improving processes, tightening QC, and continuing to submit products for independent testing (which we’ve done repeatedly and transparently).

The truth is that results, repeat testing, and real-world outcomes are what separate all this noise from the substance. Bloodwork, testing, and thousands of satisfied users carry more weight than these recycled forum narratives.

If someone prefers to ignore updated data and focus on four month old talking points, that’s their choice! But pretending nothing has changed is just ridiculous.

You also think we have ‘alt accounts’ lol that should discredit you all together. You definitely bring up valid points sometimes but then you say some stupid stuff like that and it’s honestly pathetic. You lose all credibility! That’s why I get countless emails a day making fun of you guys. But I continue to stay here, take the criticism, have fun with it but still improve. And with our latest adjustments, expectation is that we will be clean as a whistle. But God damn brother some of you just need someone to talk to. I genuinely mean that.
It is facts not frustration. Until things are consistent it’s still just banter on your part saying you’ve done things. You’ve finally done a bunch of testing but it took months to get there. Still no raw testing to ensure brew accuracy and raw contamination. We still will have to wait and see how third party test comes out as that has always been different than your testing. I can have bloodwork proof from shit brewed in a bathtub but it doesn’t mean it’s smart to inject. Nobody is claiming bunk gear.

I give zero shits who emails you to make fun. Claiming alt accounts doesn’t discredit me or anything. Internet peoples opinion of me means absolutely zero and you drop that people email you line all the time. But god damn brother I am talking to you and many have been for a while. What has been said is let’s see the consistency. One time of claiming to do things right doesn’t mean it’s changed. Repetition of doing it correctly makes it right. Four month old data is the longest history of data we have. I’ve even told you straight up I’ll pop smoke once I see consistent data right here in your thread before. I even hoped you would.

Let’s make a deal. If you have more than one 3rd party test come back showing different than what you tested (we will agree on a concentration plus or minus for variation)and the GCMS doesn’t reflect what you say is your brew technique then you donate $1500 bitcoin to the community test fund. If the blinds come back good then I’ll leave you alone and you’ll never see a negative post that isn’t pure data based from me again. Hell you add raw testing to all offered oils I’ll buy from you. Caveat is the blinds must be done by a well respected member who has no dog in the fight. My respect statement stands because of how it’s been but I will walk that back once there is a change. But this is our forum not yours and if people want to come point shit out that is their prerogative I genuinely mean that. You are a paid guest. Let me know if you wanna do it this way or if you’d rather discuss a common ground in a DM.
 
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Still no raw testing to ensure brew accuracy and raw contamination.
i got no faith in any raw testing at this point, the labs dont seem to have any sort of standard process that provides consistent reliable information from what i can see. Wildly different results from multiple testing facilities on the same products are what im seeing. Not even gonna bother testing my own raws before brewing/using(not a seller just personal stash so the risk is only to myself)
 
It is facts not frustration. Until things are consistent it’s still just banter on your part saying you’ve done things. You’ve finally done a bunch of testing but it took months to get there. Still no raw testing to ensure brew accuracy and raw contamination. We still will have to wait and see how third party test comes out as that has always been different than your testing. I can have bloodwork proof from shit brewed in a bathtub but it doesn’t mean it’s smart to inject. Nobody is claiming bunk gear.

I give zero shits who emails you to make fun. Claiming alt accounts doesn’t discredit me or anything. Internet peoples opinion of me means absolutely zero and you drop that people email you line all the time. But god damn brother I am talking to you and many have been for a while. What has been said is let’s see the consistency. One time of claiming to do things right doesn’t mean it’s changed. Repetition of doing it correctly makes it right. Four month old data is the longest history of data we have. I’ve even told you straight up I’ll pop smoke once I see consistent data right here in your thread before. I even hoped you would.

Let’s make a deal. If you have more than one 3rd party test come back showing different than what you tested (we will agree on a concentration plus or minus for variation)and the GCMS doesn’t reflect what you say is your brew technique then you donate $1500 bitcoin to the community test fund. If the blinds come back good then I’ll leave you alone and you’ll never see a negative post that isn’t pure data based from me again. Hell you add raw testing to all offered oils I’ll buy from you. Caveat is the blinds must be done by a well respected member who has no dog in the fight. My respect statement stands because of how it’s been but I will walk that back once there is a change. But this is our forum not yours and if people want to come point shit out that is their prerogative I genuinely mean that. You are a paid guest. Let me know if you wanna do it this way or if you’d rather discuss a common ground in a DM.
I like this. DM me brother.
i got no faith in any raw testing at this point, the labs dont seem to have any sort of standard process that provides consistent reliable information from what i can see. Wildly different results from multiple testing facilities on the same products are what im seeing. Not even gonna bother testing my own raws before brewing/using(not a seller just personal stash so the risk is only to myself)
We have multiple raws that just hit Jano. Will post results as soon as I get them! Idk why ya'll doubting the Ape. You know damn well we got this big for a reason.
 
I like this. DM me brother.

We have multiple raws that just hit Jano. Will post results as soon as I get them! Idk why ya'll doubting the Ape. You know damn well we got this big for a reason.
i dont doubt you at all. i doubt the lab. lotta fuckery in other threads about results between jano and AB and even jano and themselves. just seems the raw testing is not an exact science and is unreliable
 
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