Dutch Labs - EU Domestic

I'm experiencing the same issue. 96% test C raw, overdosed 3% and corrected for purity came back 4.5% underdosed.

Trying to wrap my head around it and it is curious you are experiencing something similar.

My test C raws looks just great, no clumps, almost no chemical smell and they dissolve quickly and zero trace of shit in it not like other raws, filter smooth without cloggin the filter almost at all. So I do believe the purity test is correct same as you do.

Did the E test raw material also appear to be of similarly good quality as the C raw materials?
I know that both tested at 96%+ purity, and I personally use it with very high satisfaction. One of my training partners uses the Dutch C test and is also satisfied. I’m simply curious about your opinion on this as well.
Sorry for the silly question.
 
Did the E test raw material also appear to be of similarly good quality as the C raw materials?
I know that both tested at 96%+ purity, and I personally use it with very high satisfaction. One of my training partners uses the Dutch C test and is also satisfied. I’m simply curious about your opinion on this as well.
Sorry for the silly question.
Very pure and homogenous, premium quality. Fresh smell, fatty etc. How Test E should be.

Not the weird dry powder I did receive last year. The raws situation is getting better for real.
 
I'm experiencing the same issue. 96% test C raw, overdosed 3% and corrected for purity came back 4.5% underdosed.

Trying to wrap my head around it and it is curious you are experiencing something similar.

My test C raws looks just great, no clumps, almost no chemical smell and they dissolve quickly and zero trace of shit in it not like other raws, filter smooth without cloggin the filter almost at all. So I do believe the purity test is correct same as you do.
Great to see that 2 vendors help each other out. That’s what this forum is all about. Harm reduction and having the members best interest in mind
 
Great to see that 2 vendors help each other out. That’s what this forum is all about. Harm reduction and having the members best interest in mind
I'm not really helping him out though, I did only use the opportunity to give some transparency in the hope it solves the problem (whatever it is), the harm reduction part and me having the members best interest in mind are true.
 
Being on the subject, and I would like to only mention it once here, I don't like the fact that whenever someone asks what the best lab in the EU is, people say auto say Venom #1 like the lab is the best thing since steroids were invented and Dutch Labs somewhere under there in the list or #2 if I'm lucky that is.

If that is you reading this, kindly leave me out of gay lists if you are going to do lazy shit like this.

I do not want to be placed below in a hierarchy with labs who use syringe filters to fill vials manually instead of doing one actual batch and doing a test at the end like any normal lab does, and who don't test all finished products at janoshik like all normal labs do, and who rely on third party peptide tests(!). Not to mention trying to brew a product with raws below 40 percent purity (?).

"Woow this experimental lab is better than Dutch Labs because they sold 10 vials total which didn't cause pip, and Dutch Labs had 3 batches with pip last year from which I had 1 product, which all buyers of got refunded for in full but I think all products cause pip now like a retard."

Oh excuse me for being unhinged.

Well at least you know the exact concentration in the oil that you got refunded for, since it was tested for quantity after being produced, unlike with an experimental lab which pushes oil through a syringe filter and let's you guess on the final amount based on the raws purity, which a few posts back me and the said lab have both established, can not be relied upon at all without a test on the final product.

Great that we, unlike the #1 Lab of the EU, actually test batches before the product is sold!

It's a lab's prerogative to do or not do things, and to do things a certain way. But please don't put me in a list below labs that do things like this. Put me above OR leave me out, or say 'I'm gay and/or retarded, don't buy from Dutch Labs.' that is good too.

Not Venom's fault at all even! I actually like the man and respect his interaction with me and his good intentions which I can see. I love the concept of custom brews per client, there is a market for it and I do send clients Venom's way for things I do not make, but not with the idea that the lab is above me in status in any sort of list.

My critique here is primarily is on some members their lazy and maybe even malicious type of vetting of my lab vs another lab/other labs, and also on those members who add me to their gay lab ranking lists which I disagree with (just leave me out).

Let's be honest, the vetting is not consistent at the very least. Maybe some of the more very high iq members of the harm reduction community gooned harder last year than the year before loosing focus and clarity, and forgot how to be consistent in the vetting of labs?

Maybe Dutch people get a specific treatment on this board? Maybe consciously or subconsciously niggas realised they ain't much cuz they ain't Dutch, we mog them since we are tall, handsome, and we have quality dances like jumpstyle. Possibly!

It's not my job to vet labs too frankly. Maybe @MyNameIsJeff can chime in with an excel sheet or perhaps @readalot has an appropriate and hopefully not too cringey meme for these experimental practices.

Most enlightening would be if @iris chimed in to say something about it in British. Although it seems like she left the polycule a while ago and hasn't been seen since.

If this stuff keeps happening (wrong position in the list), I am forced to move to a better functionaing, actual harm-reduction forum where there is consistency, good faith and without anti-Dutch racism of course.
 
Being on the subject, and I would like to only mention it once here, I don't like the fact that whenever someone asks what the best lab in the EU is, people say auto say Venom #1 like the lab is the best thing since steroids were invented and Dutch Labs somewhere under there in the list or #2 if I'm lucky that is.

If that is you reading this, kindly leave me out of gay lists if you are going to do lazy shit like this.

I do not want to be placed below in a hierarchy with labs who use syringe filters to fill vials manually instead of doing one actual batch and doing a test at the end like any normal lab does, and who don't test all finished products at janoshik like all normal labs do, and who rely on third party peptide tests(!). Not to mention trying to brew a product with raws below 40 percent purity (?).

"Woow this experimental lab is better than Dutch Labs because they sold 10 vials total which didn't cause pip, and Dutch Labs had 3 batches with pip last year from which I had 1 product, which all buyers of got refunded for in full but I think all products cause pip now like a retard."

Oh excuse me for being unhinged.

Well at least you know the exact concentration in the oil that you got refunded for, since it was tested for quantity after being produced, unlike with an experimental lab which pushes oil through a syringe filter and let's you guess on the final amount based on the raws purity, which a few posts back me and the said lab have both established, can not be relied upon at all without a test on the final product.

Great that we, unlike the #1 Lab of the EU, actually test batches before the product is sold!

It's a lab's prerogative to do or not do things, and to do things a certain way. But please don't put me in a list below labs that do things like this. Put me above OR leave me out, or say 'I'm gay and/or retarded, don't buy from Dutch Labs.' that is good too.

Not Venom's fault at all even! I actually like the man and respect his interaction with me and his good intentions which I can see. I love the concept of custom brews per client, there is a market for it and I do send clients Venom's way for things I do not make, but not with the idea that the lab is above me in status in any sort of list.

My critique here is primarily is on some members their lazy and maybe even malicious type of vetting of my lab vs another lab/other labs, and also on those members who add me to their gay lab ranking lists which I disagree with (just leave me out).

Let's be honest, the vetting is not consistent at the very least. Maybe some of the more very high iq members of the harm reduction community gooned harder last year than the year before loosing focus and clarity, and forgot how to be consistent in the vetting of labs?

Maybe Dutch people get a specific treatment on this board? Maybe consciously or subconsciously niggas realised they ain't much cuz they ain't Dutch, we mog them since we are tall, handsome, and we have quality dances like jumpstyle. Possibly!

It's not my job to vet labs too frankly. Maybe @MyNameIsJeff can chime in with an excel sheet or perhaps @readalot has an appropriate and hopefully not too cringey meme for these experimental practices.

Most enlightening would be if @iris chimed in to say something about it in British. Although it seems like she left the polycule a while ago and hasn't been seen since.

If this stuff keeps happening (wrong position in the list), I am forced to move to a better functionaing, actual harm-reduction forum where there is consistency, good faith and without anti-Dutch racism of course.
its the oils, and the unfortunate test D batch you had mid 2025.
people remember the PIP some products had, even if the current ones are smooth. Or they just heard "dutch has PIP" and now thats stuck in their mind.
Whatever. your new stuff seems to be smooth & good in quality, and as long as the thread reflects that its all good.

Generally, I disagree with the practice of "ranking" labs, as it easily leads to the reinforcement of certain perceptions that might by slightly further from reality than we would like them to be on a harm reduction forum.

plus, it keeps newbies from searching for labs themselves and learning what makes a good vendor. Essentially spoonfeeding but put into writing forever. Which in turn brings hoards of annoying newbies with no clue how to do business to everyone.
 
Being on the subject, and I would like to only mention it once here, I don't like the fact that whenever someone asks what the best lab in the EU is, people say auto say Venom #1 like the lab is the best thing since steroids were invented and Dutch Labs somewhere under there in the list or #2 if I'm lucky that is.

If that is you reading this, kindly leave me out of gay lists if you are going to do lazy shit like this.

I do not want to be placed below in a hierarchy with labs who use syringe filters to fill vials manually instead of doing one actual batch and doing a test at the end like any normal lab does, and who don't test all finished products at janoshik like all normal labs do, and who rely on third party peptide tests(!). Not to mention trying to brew a product with raws below 40 percent purity (?).

"Woow this experimental lab is better than Dutch Labs because they sold 10 vials total which didn't cause pip, and Dutch Labs had 3 batches with pip last year from which I had 1 product, which all buyers of got refunded for in full but I think all products cause pip now like a retard."

Oh excuse me for being unhinged.

Well at least you know the exact concentration in the oil that you got refunded for, since it was tested for quantity after being produced, unlike with an experimental lab which pushes oil through a syringe filter and let's you guess on the final amount based on the raws purity, which a few posts back me and the said lab have both established, can not be relied upon at all without a test on the final product.

Great that we, unlike the #1 Lab of the EU, actually test batches before the product is sold!

It's a lab's prerogative to do or not do things, and to do things a certain way. But please don't put me in a list below labs that do things like this. Put me above OR leave me out, or say 'I'm gay and/or retarded, don't buy from Dutch Labs.' that is good too.

Not Venom's fault at all even! I actually like the man and respect his interaction with me and his good intentions which I can see. I love the concept of custom brews per client, there is a market for it and I do send clients Venom's way for things I do not make, but not with the idea that the lab is above me in status in any sort of list.

My critique here is primarily is on some members their lazy and maybe even malicious type of vetting of my lab vs another lab/other labs, and also on those members who add me to their gay lab ranking lists which I disagree with (just leave me out).

Let's be honest, the vetting is not consistent at the very least. Maybe some of the more very high iq members of the harm reduction community gooned harder last year than the year before loosing focus and clarity, and forgot how to be consistent in the vetting of labs?

Maybe Dutch people get a specific treatment on this board? Maybe consciously or subconsciously niggas realised they ain't much cuz they ain't Dutch, we mog them since we are tall, handsome, and we have quality dances like jumpstyle. Possibly!

It's not my job to vet labs too frankly. Maybe @MyNameIsJeff can chime in with an excel sheet or perhaps @readalot has an appropriate and hopefully not too cringey meme for these experimental practices.

Most enlightening would be if @iris chimed in to say something about it in British. Although it seems like she left the polycule a while ago and hasn't been seen since.

If this stuff keeps happening (wrong position in the list), I am forced to move to a better functionaing, actual harm-reduction forum where there is consistency, good faith and without anti-Dutch racism of course.
Dude u have to take into consideration not everyone has knowladge like u do on this stuff some people that inject dont even know where to not to think About stuff like this i mean there are people who dont even know how much of the substance they are taking,

btw love your pasion for your craft
 
The people who keep on mentioning about the pip are the ones who come on the forum 1 time per 2 weeks or so and keep repeating this to look knowledgeable.
Everybody who is living here on the forum to feed there knowledge addiction (like me) know that this was a one timer and that you have given every client credit. If that is not having the best interest for your client I don’t know anymore.

So don’t you worry John. Dutch labs is still respected by everybody here and those few nitwits well they can go F themselves.
 
I'll just say that I received 12 test e vials from Dutch Labs with extreme pip, and he replaced them with 20 vials of the new test c, so he not only replaced the vials which is already rare, but he gift me 8 more, he also asked me if I wanted to choose between a store voucher or a replacement, so an excellent seller, and obviously the new vials are without pip.

I have a little suggestion for the source, Dutch find or at least sell hgh at more competitive prices, it would make it easier to reach the minimum purchase amount and I'm sure it would increase sales, just a little thought of mine.
 
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I'll just say that I received 12 test e vials from Dutch Labs with extreme pip, and he replaced them with 20 vials of the new test c, so he not only replaced the vials which is already rare, but he gift me 8 more, he also asked me if I wanted to choose between a store voucher or a replacement, so an excellent seller, and obviously the new vials are without pip.

I have a little suggestion for the source, Dutch find or at least sell hgh at more competitive prices, it would make it easier to reach the minimum purchase amount and I'm sure it would increase sales, just a little thought of mine.
f i may ask, what do you consider as more competitive prices?
 
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f i may ask, what do you consider as more competitive prices?
China prices are 0.4€/IU, local prices vary from 1€/IU up to 4€/IU. So Domestic I would assume somewhere between .75€-1.25€/IU, which he does respect that bracket. Not sure if he does, but assuming bulk buy better price.
 
Being on the subject, and I would like to only mention it once here, I don't like the fact that whenever someone asks what the best lab in the EU is, people say auto say Venom #1 like the lab is the best thing since steroids were invented and Dutch Labs somewhere under there in the list or #2 if I'm lucky that is.

If that is you reading this, kindly leave me out of gay lists if you are going to do lazy shit like this.

I do not want to be placed below in a hierarchy with labs who use syringe filters to fill vials manually instead of doing one actual batch and doing a test at the end like any normal lab does, and who don't test all finished products at janoshik like all normal labs do, and who rely on third party peptide tests(!). Not to mention trying to brew a product with raws below 40 percent purity (?).

"Woow this experimental lab is better than Dutch Labs because they sold 10 vials total which didn't cause pip, and Dutch Labs had 3 batches with pip last year from which I had 1 product, which all buyers of got refunded for in full but I think all products cause pip now like a retard."

Oh excuse me for being unhinged.

Well at least you know the exact concentration in the oil that you got refunded for, since it was tested for quantity after being produced, unlike with an experimental lab which pushes oil through a syringe filter and let's you guess on the final amount based on the raws purity, which a few posts back me and the said lab have both established, can not be relied upon at all without a test on the final product.

Great that we, unlike the #1 Lab of the EU, actually test batches before the product is sold!

It's a lab's prerogative to do or not do things, and to do things a certain way. But please don't put me in a list below labs that do things like this. Put me above OR leave me out, or say 'I'm gay and/or retarded, don't buy from Dutch Labs.' that is good too.

Not Venom's fault at all even! I actually like the man and respect his interaction with me and his good intentions which I can see. I love the concept of custom brews per client, there is a market for it and I do send clients Venom's way for things I do not make, but not with the idea that the lab is above me in status in any sort of list.

My critique here is primarily is on some members their lazy and maybe even malicious type of vetting of my lab vs another lab/other labs, and also on those members who add me to their gay lab ranking lists which I disagree with (just leave me out).

Let's be honest, the vetting is not consistent at the very least. Maybe some of the more very high iq members of the harm reduction community gooned harder last year than the year before loosing focus and clarity, and forgot how to be consistent in the vetting of labs?

Maybe Dutch people get a specific treatment on this board? Maybe consciously or subconsciously niggas realised they ain't much cuz they ain't Dutch, we mog them since we are tall, handsome, and we have quality dances like jumpstyle. Possibly!

It's not my job to vet labs too frankly. Maybe @MyNameIsJeff can chime in with an excel sheet or perhaps @readalot has an appropriate and hopefully not too cringey meme for these experimental practices.

Most enlightening would be if @iris chimed in to say something about it in British. Although it seems like she left the polycule a while ago and hasn't been seen since.

If this stuff keeps happening (wrong position in the list), I am forced to move to a better functionaing, actual harm-reduction forum where there is consistency, good faith and without anti-Dutch racism of course.
I don’t wanna just throw random compliments around - but in my opinion Dutch has the best quality & service in EU.

I’ve been waiting for NPP for example for a long time. Yes, I could just order it from all the other vendors - but I wanted to get it from you guys.

So don’t worry John, for every 1 hater Dutch will have - there is gonna be at least 10 supporters.
 
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