TheCup
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I’ve used both for more than twenty years and I don’t buy this talk about big differences. My IGF never moved an inch between them. Recovery the same, everything the same. But lads will believe whatever fits the story in their heads, that’s how this world works since the first dumbbell was lifted.
Pharma isn’t as tight as some of you think. Pharma stuff only has to stay above 91 percent of the proper 191-aa hormone, that’s the legal minimum, and they can have up to 4 percent dimer in there too. Folks act like it’s holy water. It’s not.
The good Chinese ugl stuff I’ve seen tested is up near 96-99% with barely a whisper of dimer, and those numbers includes all the needed additives as well. That’s just how modern production is. Lyophilised powder holds its shape better than all the fancy pre constituted liquid pens folk get starry-eyed over.
Also I’ll tell you this lads. Real hGH doesn’t come from some fella poking E. coli in a shed. You need huge tanks, big reactors, filtration rigs and freeze-dry gear the size of a damn truck. Only the big factories in China have that. Maybe five of them making near all the hGH on the planet. What happens after is what makes it good or bad, depending on whatever some gobshite does with it in his own kitchen.
So when you see these ugl brands shouting “our lab” and “our production”, I’d bet a hundred percent they’re just reselling whatever they get from the big plants. They’re not producing a thing. They’re filling vials, slapping labels on, shifting boxes, and if you’re unlucky, mixing in rubbish they shouldn’t even be touching. The protein comes from the same big boys.
Pharma isn’t as tight as some of you think. Pharma stuff only has to stay above 91 percent of the proper 191-aa hormone, that’s the legal minimum, and they can have up to 4 percent dimer in there too. Folks act like it’s holy water. It’s not.
The good Chinese ugl stuff I’ve seen tested is up near 96-99% with barely a whisper of dimer, and those numbers includes all the needed additives as well. That’s just how modern production is. Lyophilised powder holds its shape better than all the fancy pre constituted liquid pens folk get starry-eyed over.
Also I’ll tell you this lads. Real hGH doesn’t come from some fella poking E. coli in a shed. You need huge tanks, big reactors, filtration rigs and freeze-dry gear the size of a damn truck. Only the big factories in China have that. Maybe five of them making near all the hGH on the planet. What happens after is what makes it good or bad, depending on whatever some gobshite does with it in his own kitchen.
So when you see these ugl brands shouting “our lab” and “our production”, I’d bet a hundred percent they’re just reselling whatever they get from the big plants. They’re not producing a thing. They’re filling vials, slapping labels on, shifting boxes, and if you’re unlucky, mixing in rubbish they shouldn’t even be touching. The protein comes from the same big boys.
