Is pharma HGH that much better?

[nameste]

For people that have used pharma hgh and shit from china is it really that big of a difference?

I want listening to the steroids podcast on spotify and he said it is.

 

[BigDadd7]

No

 

[cousinmuscles]

For people that have used pharma hgh and shit from china is it really that big of a difference?

I want listening to the steroids podcast on spotify and he said it is.

Try both at the same dosage and measure IGF levels while not changing other factors like diet, cycle (estrogen) et.c

 

[Cyp180]

For people that have used pharma hgh and shit from china is it really that big of a difference?

I want listening to the steroids podcast on spotify and he said it is.

My serum dropped 12% on UGL i bought from CAT (tropin) needed 4 instead of 3iu Genotropin.

 

[johnjay06]

I get less water on seros than I have other HGH in the past. I dropped 5 pounds quickly when I swapped to the seros. Other than that, to me at least, they seem the same.

 

[Kralteramon]

No, not if you get good UGL HGH

 

[amazonas]

This questions gets people triggered everytime lol, it's personal preferance, there is no correct answer. But for me personally, yes there's a big difference in terms of look, feel, water retention and fullness of the muscles.

Genotropin and Cinnatropin gives me a different look to any chinese HGH.

 

[BigDadd7]

My serum dropped 12% on UGL i bought from CAT (tropin) needed 4 instead of 3iu Genotropin.

That could have been due to a million things. Change one variable (diet/training/rest/gear/supps/etc) and you change everything.

 

[TRT]

I’ve used both in low dose and high dose for short periods of time and long and I didn’t notice a difference. Then again I never really get side effects from anything I’ve ever done so take that for what it’s worth I guess. As far as results go I’d have to say they’re the same as well.

 

[Ateam2023]

In my opinion Pharma will always be better than UGL if nothing else it's manufactured in a controlled environment and meets or exceeds Fda standards, now do I run Pharma , hell no! It's too expensive to be honest,

 

[Ghoul]

Of course pharma is better.

Not necessarily in the sense of “more effective”, but certainly in terms of safety and consistency. Perhaps pharma remains more effective over time, since “clean” rHGH is far less likely to cause immunogenicity to develop.

But the question was loaded by asking if it’s “that much better”, meaning, will it provide more bang the buck.

With Pharma being 3-6X more expensive per IU, I can say it’s definately not 3-6X more effective. It’s not even 1.5x more effective.

But if you’re running 4iu / day, $1.50 UGL vs $5 Pharm, a $150 / month premium is meaningless for some people. The cost of a dinner out or streaming pro sports. Or a daily coffee. For them, that small bit of money makes it a bargain for everything pharma offers in intangible benefits and peace of mind.

 

[johnjay06]

Of course pharma is better.

Not necessarily in the sense of “more effective”, but certainly in terms of safety and consistency. Perhaps pharma remains more effective over time, since “clean” rHGH is far less likely to cause immunogenicity to develop.

But the question was loaded by asking if it’s “that much better”, meaning, will it provide more bang the buck.

With Pharma being 3-6X more expensive per IU, I can say it’s definately not 3-6X more effective. It’s not even 1.5x more effective.

But if you’re running 4iu / day, $1.50 UGL vs $5 Pharm, a $150 / month premium is meaningless for some people. The cost of a dinner out or streaming pro sports. Or a daily coffee. For them, that small bit of money makes it a bargain for everything pharma offers in intangible benefits and peace of mind.

Where you finding 4iu pharma for 5 bucks? I need that source lol

 

[wells14]

Where you finding 4iu pharma for 5 bucks? I need that source lol

If anyone actually had a source for that price they'd not mention it anywhere.

 

[BlackVeil]

If anyone actually had a source for that price they'd not mention it anywhere.

Cheapest pharma I know of is $17 per 4 ius.

 

[Ghoul]

If anyone actually had a source for that price they'd not mention it anywhere.

I actually meant $5 more than UGL (which is why I said $150 premium / month / $30 days).

So the correct price for pharma, at the low end, was $6.50 / 4iu.

 

[johnjay06]

Cheapest pharma I know of is $17 per 4 ius.

I can get seros for around 16 for 4 ius and that’s cheaper than most. Genos are around 17 per 4 ius from lobster when he has a sale. Cinnatropin is cheaper but nowhere near that cheap

 

[johnjay06]

I actually meant $5 more than UGL (which is why I said $150 premium / month / $30 days).

So the correct price for pharma, at the low end, was $6.50 / 4iu.

What brand for that cheap? I want to buy it all lol

 

[Ghoul]

I can get seros for around 16 for 4 ius and that’s cheaper than most. Genos are around 17 per 4 ius from lobster when he has a sale. Cinnatropin is cheaper but nowhere near that cheap

You need to expand the brands you’re looking at.

I’m not going to give you a source, but I’ll give you a strong clue, after which it’s not that difficult to find < $8 (if you buy 100 at a time). $6.5o is the lowest I’ve seen, and the wholesale price per kit from Korea to distributors is $4.50-$5.



In some parts of the world, LG biosciences co brands this with Cipla.

 

[BlackVeil]

You need to expand the brands you’re looking at.

I’m not going to give you a source, but I’ll give you a strong clue, after which it’s not that difficult (if you buy 100 at a time).

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In some parts of the world, LG biosciences co brands this with Cipla.

how are you finding this at 6.50 a vial? I could only find 28.50

 

[Ghoul]

how are you finding this at 6.50 a vial? I could only find 28.50

We can’t discuss sources outside of the underground (and I’m not inclined to give mine away tbh, but prices were clustered around $6.50-8 from more than one merchant, as a reference) . Look for the best prices like you would for any other med on the international market, and don’t lead with an inquiry that sounds like you’re looking for one. Ask for a price on 100x, or 200x etc.

I’m sharing this because like Hospira BAC, I think a product like this is a safer alternative.

This isn’t the only one either. 4iu single dose kits like this are available from a number of pharma companies, outside the US. Merck (saizen) Sun (headon), several legit Chinese pharma companies all offer them. This isn’t even the cheapest, but Korea has some of the highest quality pharma standards in the world, so LG eutropin is my preference.

As soon as you start looking at the “convenience” delivery methods, ie, pens, for the same brands prices go way up, because they’re sold in western countries, while 4iu kits are exclusively distributed in low income countries. “Market segmentation”.