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TLDR- large framed old fat guy coming back from injury and down to 255 from 355lbs, multiple dexas says 210 lean mass- insane false readings? Current alltime best but still garbage physique in photo with a shot of me at my fattest too.
I’m late 40s and was fat my whole life, had adolescent gyno, very active thru my early 30s though- high school sports & lifting, in my 20s had club bouncing jobs, moved safes and pianos professionally. I have D1 college football linemen friends and I’m not doorway filling big like that, but always been one of the tallest largest framed men in the room most of the time. Rode a bicycle 10mi/day to work all thru my 20s too.
6’ 3” tall, currently 255lbs. Got totally smashed in a 2013 bike wreck- rt forarm and calf put back together with screws & plates. Major upper body atrophy and got way fatter- hit a high of 355lbs and got my shit together like 3 years ago. Started TRT my test was like 200.
Ate cleaner, 3x/week full body split, dropped to 315. Not enough effort- time to get serious. Started tracking cals & macros, 5 day lifting split, walking. Used scale & measuring tape to track progress- lots of pics too. Everything kept getting smaller and I’m finally lean enough to see body parts start getting bigger from lifting as the stubborn fat holds on but I’m leaning out around the edges. Upper chest (above titty fat!) went from 53” down to 50” and now up to 52”- veins & definition with a pump but not big yet. Calves went from 21” down to 19.5, now back up to 20”. Thigh definition is coming in and chubb is melting off. Spare tire is almost gone but I have a way to go to see a nice taper. Obliques & abs starting to show in good light. Waist went from 46” to 38” measured around the chubb not under.
Sometimes numbers are helpful for motivation but I don’t put a lot of stock in them and I’m committed to keep working until I hit my goals. I know I’ll have extra skin and won’t ever be on the cover of men’s health magazine or impress a bodybuilder with my physique but I want to get shredded and vascular for once in my life, then stay below 15% for good and I’m enjoying the BB lifestyle. Wife is a powerlifter, currently cutting and way hotter than I deserve. Bigtime support.
Around 270lbs I met with a friend’s BB prep coach for some help insuring my recomp continued as my cut got slower and harder. He gets results and is a smart dude. He suggested I go up from 200mg TRT to 300mg/week and look at adding in some peptides- tesamorelin, low dose reta, mots C, 5-amino. Mild fat loss & metabolism boost stuff.
So before I started that stack I did bloodwork and got a dexa scan so I could get the most scientific results available. My training and diet were already dialed in, so I could keep those variables constant. I did another dexa and blood after 8 weeks on his suggested stack too. Visceral fat went a little quicker and lifts continued to progress. Bloods better than ever.
So here’s my confusion- the dexa was of course different from the (garbage) inbody results, but not by a lot. The dexa was done at a medical center so the operator was properly trained and it wasn’t a mickey mouse operation with an uncalibrated machine. I know they can commonly be 5% off up or down, and up to 10% off in general, and there is no way to accurately measure bodyfat other than seeing someone who’s either fat or totally peeled. I also know that a ton of people that are my height, lean, and have way stronger upper bodies are often more like 180lbs total weight. They also often have slim hips and legs 1/2 my size.
The dexa said I was at 20% bodyfat at 264lbs, and 110lbs lean mass with bone density at the tippy top of the scale. Which would mean that IF it’s correct I would be at 10%bf around 230lbs. So for now that’s my target weight to finish this cut. If I’m still not visually lean I’m happy to maintain for a bit then cut more. No big deal I know how to do it and I’m happy to do the work.
But it’s been pointed out to me (here!) that it’s impossible for my lean mass to be 210- wrong by “several orders of magnitude”. My legs are strong as fuck but I’m only benching 225 currently, and can only do a pullup with 30lbs of assistance (had to measure the assisted machine with dumbbells the #s on the stack are way off).
My current goal is to hit 230lbs body weight by spring, flat bench 250 & three strict pullups by summer. I will do this and more to come, no doubt in my mind. I took what I liked from the 8 week peptide stack (300T, 3mg reta) and added 4iu hgh to cruise to the end of my planned cut to 230lbs. If I’m still fat there will be true TRT & maintenance followed by another cut. If I’m lean enough I’ll do a mild cycle this summer instead to start filling my skin back out some.
So am I crazy as fuck to believe that 230lbs will definitely be somewhere between 10%-15% bodyfat? Because I’m fine with whatever happens but it seems reasonable to me since under the fat I carry an ogre sized frame and have bigger leg muscles than 99% of the lifters I’m around who can bench 300+ and are not chicken leg bros.
I’d love to hear opinions- my ego is not tied up in these numbers and they are just motivational for me. I have a realistic concept of my strengths and weaknesses and I’m not interested in being better than anybody, dick measuring, or making wild claims. It’s just a point of curiosity.
Thanks!
MFRAS
TLDR- large framed old fat guy coming back from injury and down to 255 from 355lbs, multiple dexas says 210 lean mass- insane false readings? Current alltime best but still garbage physique in photo with a shot of me at my fattest too.
I’m late 40s and was fat my whole life, had adolescent gyno, very active thru my early 30s though- high school sports & lifting, in my 20s had club bouncing jobs, moved safes and pianos professionally. I have D1 college football linemen friends and I’m not doorway filling big like that, but always been one of the tallest largest framed men in the room most of the time. Rode a bicycle 10mi/day to work all thru my 20s too.
6’ 3” tall, currently 255lbs. Got totally smashed in a 2013 bike wreck- rt forarm and calf put back together with screws & plates. Major upper body atrophy and got way fatter- hit a high of 355lbs and got my shit together like 3 years ago. Started TRT my test was like 200.
Ate cleaner, 3x/week full body split, dropped to 315. Not enough effort- time to get serious. Started tracking cals & macros, 5 day lifting split, walking. Used scale & measuring tape to track progress- lots of pics too. Everything kept getting smaller and I’m finally lean enough to see body parts start getting bigger from lifting as the stubborn fat holds on but I’m leaning out around the edges. Upper chest (above titty fat!) went from 53” down to 50” and now up to 52”- veins & definition with a pump but not big yet. Calves went from 21” down to 19.5, now back up to 20”. Thigh definition is coming in and chubb is melting off. Spare tire is almost gone but I have a way to go to see a nice taper. Obliques & abs starting to show in good light. Waist went from 46” to 38” measured around the chubb not under.
Sometimes numbers are helpful for motivation but I don’t put a lot of stock in them and I’m committed to keep working until I hit my goals. I know I’ll have extra skin and won’t ever be on the cover of men’s health magazine or impress a bodybuilder with my physique but I want to get shredded and vascular for once in my life, then stay below 15% for good and I’m enjoying the BB lifestyle. Wife is a powerlifter, currently cutting and way hotter than I deserve. Bigtime support.
Around 270lbs I met with a friend’s BB prep coach for some help insuring my recomp continued as my cut got slower and harder. He gets results and is a smart dude. He suggested I go up from 200mg TRT to 300mg/week and look at adding in some peptides- tesamorelin, low dose reta, mots C, 5-amino. Mild fat loss & metabolism boost stuff.
So before I started that stack I did bloodwork and got a dexa scan so I could get the most scientific results available. My training and diet were already dialed in, so I could keep those variables constant. I did another dexa and blood after 8 weeks on his suggested stack too. Visceral fat went a little quicker and lifts continued to progress. Bloods better than ever.
So here’s my confusion- the dexa was of course different from the (garbage) inbody results, but not by a lot. The dexa was done at a medical center so the operator was properly trained and it wasn’t a mickey mouse operation with an uncalibrated machine. I know they can commonly be 5% off up or down, and up to 10% off in general, and there is no way to accurately measure bodyfat other than seeing someone who’s either fat or totally peeled. I also know that a ton of people that are my height, lean, and have way stronger upper bodies are often more like 180lbs total weight. They also often have slim hips and legs 1/2 my size.
The dexa said I was at 20% bodyfat at 264lbs, and 110lbs lean mass with bone density at the tippy top of the scale. Which would mean that IF it’s correct I would be at 10%bf around 230lbs. So for now that’s my target weight to finish this cut. If I’m still not visually lean I’m happy to maintain for a bit then cut more. No big deal I know how to do it and I’m happy to do the work.
But it’s been pointed out to me (here!) that it’s impossible for my lean mass to be 210- wrong by “several orders of magnitude”. My legs are strong as fuck but I’m only benching 225 currently, and can only do a pullup with 30lbs of assistance (had to measure the assisted machine with dumbbells the #s on the stack are way off).
My current goal is to hit 230lbs body weight by spring, flat bench 250 & three strict pullups by summer. I will do this and more to come, no doubt in my mind. I took what I liked from the 8 week peptide stack (300T, 3mg reta) and added 4iu hgh to cruise to the end of my planned cut to 230lbs. If I’m still fat there will be true TRT & maintenance followed by another cut. If I’m lean enough I’ll do a mild cycle this summer instead to start filling my skin back out some.
So am I crazy as fuck to believe that 230lbs will definitely be somewhere between 10%-15% bodyfat? Because I’m fine with whatever happens but it seems reasonable to me since under the fat I carry an ogre sized frame and have bigger leg muscles than 99% of the lifters I’m around who can bench 300+ and are not chicken leg bros.
I’d love to hear opinions- my ego is not tied up in these numbers and they are just motivational for me. I have a realistic concept of my strengths and weaknesses and I’m not interested in being better than anybody, dick measuring, or making wild claims. It’s just a point of curiosity.
Thanks!
MFRAS
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