Can't seem to get my fasted morning blood glucose at the right level on HGH

[BatmanVAR]

Increasing reta helped me with this.

Thanks, yeah I'm working on that but I have to titrate slowly because I had dumb side effects at 4mg. What dosage did you see the most improvement?

 

[Vicki]

Thanks, yeah I'm working on that but I have to titrate slowly because I had dumb side effects at 4mg. What dosage did you see the most improvement?

4mg made a difference and I stayed there. I was going over 100 on 2mg

 

[Burly]

5'9, 193 pounds at 12% body fat, taking 4IUs a day. I'm on 1.5mg of Reta a week, 500mg of berberine every morning, and about a week about I added 500mg of metformin before bed.

I take all of my HGH in the morning. Before taking it, I test my BG and it's usually around 100. Some days as low as 95, and some as high as 112.

I then test my BG 2 hours later and again 2 hours after every meal and it's always 100-105. So my morning fasted BG is high but post meal BG is great.

For context I used to take my HGH before bed and my numbers were the same. I switched it to morning due to sleep issues and also to see if it would help with this issue.

My diet and training are on point but I do have bad sleeping issues that I've always had and can't get any relief from. I wake up a bunch and I wake up exhausted every morning.

Thoughts? Thinking of increasing my metformin to 1000mg at night, and/or more berberine throughout the day

Did you try 3iu GH instead of 4 ?

 

[BatmanVAR]

4mg made a difference and I stayed there. I was going over 100 on 2mg

What is your BG at 4mg?

 

[BatmanVAR]

Did you try 3iu GH instead of 4 ?

I started at 2, then went to 3, then went to 4. I was naive though and didn't start testing my BG until I was at 4. I've even done 5 a few times and the numbers were the same.

 

[Burly]

4mg made a difference and I stayed there. I was going over 100 on 2mg

You can not compare with TS, everybody reacts different to meds BG

 

[Vicki]

You can not compare with TS, everybody reacts different to meds BG

I was just answering his question. Im sure his treatment plan will be between him and his healthcare professionals.

 

[Burly]

I started at 2, then went to 3, then went to 4. I was naive though and didn't start testing my BG until I was at 4. I've even done 5 a few times and the numbers were the same.

I would try 3iu GH and test BG daily for some weeks

 

[Vicki]

What is your BG at 4mg?

Its mid 70s and 80s now. It took a few weeks to normalize however. Its possible my body just got used to the gh too. Im taking 4iu in the morning daily. Usually before workouts.

 

[BatmanVAR]

You might want to consider the Dexcom Stelo Glucose Biosensor (Stelo Wearable Glucose Biosensor | OTC CGM | Stelo by Dexcom). According to the web, while it continuously measures glucose, it only reports in 5-min intervals (same as the Dexcom G6/G7 diabetic monitors)

It is not for diabetic use though, but Dexcom realized there's a market for the "rest of us".

IMO you will gain better insight to your BG levels, every 2-hrs you could be missing the glucose spikes from reta's slowed gastric emtpying; which I thought was anywhere from 3-4 hours. If this is the case, then at 2-hrs post-meal you're not really reading anything extra from nutrition. BUT hard to tell without a real frequent testing, say in 15 or 30 min intervals to really characterize post-meal glucose (which is what I've done with my t1d wife)

food for thought

Update: I wanted to see if reta's delayed gastric emptying would mean I'd spike later. So I tested 2 hours after a big meal and again at 3 hours, and again at 4 - and all of the readings were between 104-106.

So short of a continuous monitoring system like you linked to, it seems like my BG is fine throughout the day, the only issue is fasted in the morning.

 

[Crx221]

Berberine with a few meals a day and walk for 10 minutes after every meal. Fasted cardio(walking) will also do wonders.

 

[Burly]

-105 is fine, do not worry. You cloud also increase Berberine to 1000mg and up your cardio

 

[Slowww]

I use 500mg bereberine 2x a day with highest fat meals, and it helps. On 10iu currently BG is at 82. Also taking inositol.

How is the diet and cardio + steps for you?
I never saw a dose of 5iu do anything to BG at all

 

[BatmanVAR]

I use 500mg bereberine 2x a day with highest fat meals, and it helps. On 10iu currently BG is at 82. Also taking inositol.

How is the diet and cardio + steps for you?
I never saw a dose of 5iu do anything to BG at all

Diet and cardio are on point, steps could probably be better.

 

[negpill]

My recommendation -

Metformin xr 500 - 1000 mg before bed. SGLT2 (empagliflozin25 mg upon waking) + have Reta always running in the background.

 

[BatmanVAR]

My recommendation -

Metformin xr 500 - 1000 mg before bed. SGLT2 (empagliflozin25 mg upon waking) + have Reta always running in the background.

I'm doing all that except for SGLT2 which I've never heard of prior to this

 

[Ateam2023]

My recommendation -

Metformin xr 500 - 1000 mg before bed. SGLT2 (empagliflozin25 mg upon waking) + have Reta always running in the background.

Damn, did you think that up all by yourself?

 

[negpill]

Damn, did you think that up all by yourself?

Lol no. Common pharmacological stack many here already know. But only stating not knowing other lifestyle intervention.

 

[xrayphoton13]

You could also try moving it to 2-3 hours pre workout and see what happens.

I like it all prebed as it seems to treat my bg the best. Do you just have issues sleeping on it? Because if it's CTS causing your sleep issues I found that was easily solved by taurine and I used to get CTS so bad at night I was wearing those damn wrist braces

 

[BatmanVAR]

You could also try moving it to 2-3 hours pre workout and see what happens.

I like it all prebed as it seems to treat my bg the best. Do you just have issues sleeping on it? Because if it's CTS causing your sleep issues I found that was easily solved by taurine and I used to get CTS so bad at night I was wearing those damn wrist braces

2-3 hours pre workout is what I'm doing now. I take it around 8:30 or 9:00am and I workout at 11:00am.

I don't have any CTS issues, I've just found that I'm waking up a LOT when I take it before bed. I've always had sleep issues but they got substantially worse on HGH at night.