End of year test and decca cycle

[bananafeet]

Cycle update. I'm starting to feel saucy as.

Indian Tren ace arrives next week. It's so god damn hot here I'm afraid to run it. So I'm thinking 10-20mg pre workout only when I'm not working.

Calories are still up, the Tirzepatide hasn't kicked in yet. I've also ordered some slow acting insulin. I'll just add a few IU per day and keep an eye on my blood sugar. I think this longer acting stuff is the safest to mess with but I'm only gonna use a tiny bit until I get comfortable.

I've started doing more cardio. I'm gonna buy a rowing machine for the home gym to get in some cardio that does make me go insane with boredom.

 

[Raylee3500]

I've got 1.5ml to inject tonight to hit the weekly mg.

I doubled the dose of Sertraline and switched to night time dosing. This has seemed to get rid of the daytime fatigue.

However I am sweating a ridiculous amount. Hopefully it's just the rest of the flu and not because they sent me Tren instead of decca haha

Gym tonight. Diet at work is a bit shit:
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Hoping to get atleast two more workouts for this week. This has been a pretty limp start to a cycle. Personal issues, these meds and fatigue. Anyway onwards and upwards.

yeah dude that is embarrassing wtf is that, how hard is it to cook some fucking seasoned chicken with mabey some bbq sauce and like some rice cakes for carbs . like seriously what is this garbage im looking at right now

 

[ChemBB]

Indian Tren ace arrives next week. It's so god damn hot here I'm afraid to run it. So I'm thinking 10-20mg pre workout only when I'm not working.

Dramatic people on the internet like to exaggerate Tren and parrot things they've heard

If you're not on +500mg, I bet if you pretended not to know you were on Tren you wouldn't be able to tell much, besides possibly mildly impaired cardio at above 300mg.

 

[bananafeet]

I've just succeeded in getting fatter so far lol

Anyway I had one PR on the leg press - 4 plates each side for 20 reps. Also a PR on the pendlay row. 95kg x3x5.

I've started doing Yates rows when my lower back gets too fatigued.

My legs look small but have more definition.

Bodybuilding is starting to feel like a sport. I underestimated how difficult this shit is haha

Anyway I suppose it's okay to enjoy taking steroids and lifting weights without being remotely decent in shape.

Blood test next week. Hoping for decent blood work.

 

[bob357sig]

I've just succeeded in getting fatter so far lol

Anyway I had one PR on the leg press - 4 plates each side for 20 reps. Also a PR on the pendlay row. 95kg x3x5.

I've started doing Yates rows when my lower back gets too fatigued.

My legs look small but have more definition.

Bodybuilding is starting to feel like a sport. I underestimated how difficult this shit is haha

Anyway I suppose it's okay to enjoy taking steroids and lifting weights without being remotely decent in shape.

Blood test next week. Hoping for decent blood work.

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You are definitely gaining mass, not just fat. I can see it in your delts and lats. Deca will give you a smoothed out look with a little water retention. Remember, this is a time game; years and years of grinding is what’s needed to get where most guys wish to be size wise.

 

[bananafeet]

yeah dude that is embarrassing wtf is that, how hard is it to cook some fucking seasoned chicken with mabey some bbq sauce and like some rice cakes for carbs . like seriously what is this garbage im looking at right now

I kinda hate that you're right. But also kinda feel like maybe it's too difficult to do this shit.

Anyway thanks for keeping me accountable. I will clean up my diet but psychologically for me food is very difficult to give up.

 

[bananafeet]

You are definitely gaining mass, not just fat. I can see it in your delts and lats. Deca will give you a smoothed out look with a little water retention. Remember, this is a time game; years and years of grinding is what’s needed to get where most guys wish to be size wise.

Thanks mate. I'm probably just overthinking it like I do everything. I'll keep grinding.

 

[Cyp180]

562mg test E weekly
450mg nandralone decanoate weekly
2iu HGH daily
37.5mg exemestane per week

My resting heart rate has increased from 60 to 72bpm this week already. Hopefully it doesn't keep going up.

Why these high dosis, and also not wait when your lean ?

 

[bananafeet]

Why these high dosis, and also not wait when your lean ?

I don't have a good answer for your questions. I could keep dieting down but I started to get loose skin on my belly and look depleted after dropping from 136kg to 106kg.

As for the high doses. Yes it's quite high. But people don't think doing 100 tren with 500 test is high even tho the total anabolic rating is about the same.

 

[Cyp180]

375mg test and 100-150 tren is a perfect dose. Your currant fat also increase estrogens combined with deca and test. (water retention, increased BP)

I would go in kcal deficit of 300 and try to loose +- 300 grams a week of weight.

 

[bananafeet]

375mg test and 100-150 tren is a perfect dose. Your currant fat also increase estrogens combined with deca and test. (water retention, increased BP)

I would go in kcal deficit of 300 and try to loose +- 300 grams a week of weight.

375mg + (5 * 150) = 1125mg equivalent dose.

You're on more gear than me and harsher compounds. Also the perfect dose for who? For what goals? Where are your progress pictures?

My blood pressure is perfect (125/75). My estrogen is controlled using exemestane.

As for the last point yes I'm a fat arse. I've never seen my abs in my life and I probably never will. However I know eating in a deficit even mild makes me tired and weak and stalls all my lifts. I'm currently bulking so I don't mind the extra fat. I can always diet it off again. But my lifts need to go up.

I am considering adding either Lantus or Metformin to help with insulin sensitivity. I'm not too sure which is the better choice.

If you have something constructive to add I'd be eager to learn and listen.

 

[Cyp180]

Weekly dose

375mg + (1* 150) = 1125mg equivalent dose.

 

[bananafeet]

Weekly dose

Tren is 5x testosterone

 

[Cyp180]

375mg Testo weekly
100-150mg Tren weekly dose.

so total dose not times 5

 

[bananafeet]

375mg Testo weekly
100-150mg Tren weekly dose.

so total dose not times 5

You've misunderstood me.

The anabolic to androgenic ratio is how much a steroid causes muscle growth versus how much it induces secondary sexual characteristics (androgenicity).

Testosterone is 100:100
Nandralone is like 45:125 from memory
Tren is 500:500

So when you add the anabolic rating together your cycle is similar to mine because tren is literally 5x stronger than testosterone.

This is why at 1500mg of testosterone guys get the Tren like effects of Tren at 300mg. The doses are equivalent in power.

You could say your cycle is small and take 300mg of Tren and 300mg of MENT but that would be silly.

My point is your dose isn't "low" either. 375mg of test is still 4x the replacement dose... Then add a good dose of Tren on top.

Pin low mg of powerful drugs doesn't make it safer because your total mg is lower.

 

[Cyp180]

562mg test E weekly
450mg nandralone decanoate weekly
2iu HGH daily
37.5mg exemestane per week

My resting heart rate has increased from 60 to 72bpm this week already. Hopefully it doesn't keep going up.

This is more then what i adviced.

475mg total gear weekly v 1100mg gear. And you do not need Exemestane…

But in the end it’s up to you what you inject.

 

[bananafeet]

This is more then what i adviced.

475mg total gear weekly v 1100mg gear. And you do not need Exemestane…

But in the end it’s up to you what you inject.

Is English your second language?

Tren is 5 times more powerful than testosterone so you can't say your cycle is milder.

If you use the anabolic:androgenic rating our cycles have the same anabolic rating.

This is similar to you saying "I only take 1 gram of fentanyl and you take 500mg of Panadol so you're a drug addict".

 

[Cyp180]

Is English your second language?

Tren is 5 times more powerful than testosterone so you can't say your cycle is milder.

If you use the anabolic:androgenic rating our cycles have the same anabolic rating.

This is similar to you saying "I only take 1 gram of fentanyl and you take 500mg of Panadol so you're a drug addict".

I would rater gain lean on low test-tren than wet gear like deca and test on higher dose. Your BF and water gain is higher now on wet gear combo. Deca- Test. Thats why i also advice to go in kcals deficit of 300 daily.
The best is get lean without gear and bulk lean with low dosis gear. Now you use a bulk dose gear and start is not lean.

 

[bananafeet]

I would rater gain lean on low test-tren than wet gear like deca and test on higher dose. Your BF and water gain is higher now on wet gear combo. Deca- Test. Thats why i also advice to go in kcals deficit of 300 daily.
The best is get lean without gear and bulk lean with low dosis gear. Now you use a bulk dose gear and start is not lean.

I need to see the physique that wrote this incoherent babble of bro science. Please post physique.

 

[Cyp180]

I need to see the physique that wrote this incoherent babble of bro science. Please post physique.

So when you see my 56yrs old physique , then you believe me ?
Lol