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4 or 8 ui for fatloss
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BigDadd7
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That's not a real question. That's an, "I have done zero reading beforehand" question. At least put 30 minutes of research into what you're putting into your body and how it works.
Psy-chonaut
Member
Sorry mate - It wont do anything, if you are not capable of looking at your diet - then you will prob. just get fatter anyways....... It's not some kind of magic.
I am already on a diet 1500kcals daily and 5x train per week, just wanna add hgh
Ateam2023
Member
You sir need to do ALOT more research on this , hgh isn't magic as previously stated, its a lonnggg haul, and so many other factors are very important while running hgh, Water, Diet, Electrolytes (often overlooked) and of course the Cardio has to be in play, Without these in place hgh is just going to give you water weight gains often mistaken for lbm gains, Also what is your "baseline igf1" and at this point your age comes into question also..
Ateam2023
Member
Whats your "BASELINE IGF1" , that should be something You know before ever considering Hgh , PERIOD!
I dont know yet, but gonna do bloods tomorrow, how much base ifg1 is Good?
BigDadd7
Member
It's not a matter of good or bad. It's a reference point for the future so you can see how your body responds. This is another example of why you need to do more reading. No one is trying to crap on you, it's just that you're asking elementary questions that display a lack of fundamental understanding. Spend a little more time reading so you can decide if HGH will do what you want it to do.
If you’re really focusing on losing weight, you will get better results with a glp like tirzepatide. Appetite control, blood sugar control, even some minor nutrient partitioning.
malfeasance
Member
What do you weigh? How tall are you? Are you taking anything else? If so, for how long?
Are you male or female?
How long have you been training?
How much cardio do you do?
Why 1500kcals daily? How did you arrive at that number? Of what is it made up, that is, what are you eating and drinking? How do you track?
How much weight did you lose in the last week? What about the week before that? And before that? And the week before that?
How long have you been cutting?
What is it that you suppose the HGH will actually do to change the progress or lack of progress you noted in the paragraph above, and what do you suppose the difference would be between 4 and 8 iu?
What is your history with hgh?
wells14
Member
Both of those doses quite a lot of GH for a female.
Ateam2023
Member
Its age dependent, and theres charts posted on Meso for what is considered normal to high range for Igf1 . Good luck on your journey
Ok im gonna try to reply as best i can as i dont speak Good english,
1- im male
2- almost 2 years
3- 30m light cardio every Day
4-im tracking every food i eat, i weight 110kilos now lost 70kg in 2 years.
5- i use reta 8mg week, and 250 test c Never had experience with hgh so i Was thinking it could help a little more with fat loss
Ohh ok ty bro
BigDadd7
Member
Keep doing what you're doing. HGH won't be beneficial for you quite yet.
Ty for your reply
malfeasance
Member
Are you making progress still, losing weight every week? Like a 0.5 kg a week to 1 kg a week?
For your food tracking, macros, how many grams of protein a day are you consuming? Fats? Carbohydrates?
Are you weight training, and are you making progress on your weight training? Are the weights increasing?
Very little progress, 160g protein, 175 carbs,
Very little progress, 160g protein, 175 carbs, fats very little, no progress in weight, remains the same
malfeasance
Member
Push protein over 200 for a week and see how that goes, then report back.
That is 40 more grams of protein, which is 160 calories.
Honestly, I would try to get it higher, 225 or 250.
Even 250 grams of protein is only 90 grams more, which is only 360 calories, except if your body actually wants to use it for fuel, it will not get 360 calories out of it, because it is metabolically expensive to convert protein.
Every study shows better body composition with higher protein while losing fat, with no upper limit found (yet).
That is 40 more grams of protein, which is 160 calories.
Honestly, I would try to get it higher, 225 or 250.
Even 250 grams of protein is only 90 grams more, which is only 360 calories, except if your body actually wants to use it for fuel, it will not get 360 calories out of it, because it is metabolically expensive to convert protein.
Every study shows better body composition with higher protein while losing fat, with no upper limit found (yet).
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malfeasance
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With protein high, have you considered cycling your carbs?
Keep the protein high, eat 250 grams of carbs, then the next day, lower it to 125, then the next day, 100, then the next day, 50, then 0, then start at 250 again.
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That is an average of 105 grams of carbs, which is less than you are eating now, but every fifth day you get 250 grams of carbs.
You can do it different ways. For example, I cut very quickly one time using 250, 125, 0. No deviation. A 3 day carb cycle. I did not do that one again, because I found I did not need to be that restrictive on carbs to cut (but wow, it worked quickly, like 6 weeks to single digit body fat quickly).
Or you can do several days at 125 before dropping. Or do 250, 200, 150, 125, 125, 100, 50, 0, which is on average 125 grams of carbs a day, still less than you are eating now.
The possibilities are endless.
Plus you can tailor it as you go. Lose too much weight in a week? Add in another high or medium day. Lose too little? Add in a low 100 or 50 or 0 day will jump start that.
On 250 mg of testosterone a week, you ought to be training intensely and progressing in weight (or reps, progressive overload). Frankly, I think your protein is too law. Get the protein up and consider a carb cycle.
Protein high, fats low, carbs wherever you need them to keep making progress.
Keep the protein high, eat 250 grams of carbs, then the next day, lower it to 125, then the next day, 100, then the next day, 50, then 0, then start at 250 again.
250
125
100
50
0
That is an average of 105 grams of carbs, which is less than you are eating now, but every fifth day you get 250 grams of carbs.
You can do it different ways. For example, I cut very quickly one time using 250, 125, 0. No deviation. A 3 day carb cycle. I did not do that one again, because I found I did not need to be that restrictive on carbs to cut (but wow, it worked quickly, like 6 weeks to single digit body fat quickly).
Or you can do several days at 125 before dropping. Or do 250, 200, 150, 125, 125, 100, 50, 0, which is on average 125 grams of carbs a day, still less than you are eating now.
The possibilities are endless.
Plus you can tailor it as you go. Lose too much weight in a week? Add in another high or medium day. Lose too little? Add in a low 100 or 50 or 0 day will jump start that.
On 250 mg of testosterone a week, you ought to be training intensely and progressing in weight (or reps, progressive overload). Frankly, I think your protein is too law. Get the protein up and consider a carb cycle.
Protein high, fats low, carbs wherever you need them to keep making progress.
Ok i will try, ty for your knowledge, do you think even 4 ui its not necessary?
